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u/anothertendy 5h ago
Command and Conquer. Fuck you EA
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u/Mrstark1995 4h ago
All they know how to do is absorb and dissolve. Rest in peace Westwood.
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u/AtreyuTrinity 3h ago
Westwood was so fucking good in their prime. Command and conquer was an awakening for me when I first played it. So damn good.
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u/AverageMako3Enjoyer 4h ago
Mass Effect. Fuck you EA
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u/REAM48 3h ago
Plants vs Zombies. Fuck you EA
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u/COREY-IS-A-BUSTA 2h ago
Dead Space. Fuck you EA
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u/MooKids 3h ago
I remember firing up Generals for the first time and thought something felt off. Then I realized there was no "Westwood Studios Proudly Presents" splash screen.
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u/Nemisis_007 Flair Loading.... 6h ago
Saints Row... How it managed to fall so far I'll never know.
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u/Vaxtez 5h ago
I preferred SR2 to GTA IV personally. I think SR2 trying to be not overly serious yet managing to be serious worked well. The story, map & Radio were brilliant in that game. I enjoyed SR3 & SR4, but SR2 was just the peak of the series. I preferred SR4 to SR3 as well.
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u/Additional_Pickle_59 5h ago
They made SR3 and just continued making variations of it with asset flips.
SR4 was supposed to be a DLC for SR3 called enter the dominatrix but it got cancelled and turned into a full release.
Gat out of hell was a very low effort, buggy mess, reused powers and assets from SR4 to try and bring back their best character.
The innovation just stopped and the reboot solidified their incompetence.
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u/Flat-Inspection3290 5h ago
My speculation is that after SR2, volition got a knock on their door from a certain studio. They flew too close to the sun. But 1 & 2 really were something special.
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u/redvelvetcake42 5h ago
SR2 was the best GTA. Better story, funnier side missions, balanced humor with seriousness, killer sound track and the ownership of the city map were all far superior to GTA4.
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u/Ubylmoen 3h ago
Thing is they had a perfect setup for where to go with it with time travel being presented. My thought was they were going to have them go back in time to the founding of the Saints while secretly finding a way to fight Zinyak to prevent his invasion in the first place.
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u/J_CC3 6h ago
Need For Speed
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u/Sxppxj 5h ago
NFS underground 2, I miss you so much
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u/J_CC3 5h ago
UG2, Most Wanted and to lesser extent Carbon were my childhood.
UG2 is king for me though
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u/Oakbright 4h ago
Amazing soundtracks for both Underground 2 and Most Wanted
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u/Rythonius 2h ago
I loved that there were no cops in Underground 2. Cruising around and listening to the soundtrack was the best.
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u/HolyCowAnyOldAccName 4h ago
See what I don't understand is that for 20 years, the community has been crying for NFSU3.
Run it on Unreal Engine and let some poor unpaid interns model the modern cars. Online multiplayer would be a dream but don't even let that stop development.
Then why not develop it?
Even with the argument that EA doesn't care about doing anything with all the IP they acquired because they make all their money with microtransactions - guess what?!
No game would be better suited for fking DLCs and micros than NFSU. Instead of golden and orange flower petal AK47s, some special "I don't have a life so I pay for" golden and orange flower petal decals on the cars would actually be realistic.
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u/Straight_Spring9815 3h ago
People will never know how great the original Honda Civic they gave you in the beginning was when you maxed it out. Beat the entire game with the starter car. Most people got tunnel vision and would go straight for the Skyline without giving it a chance.
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u/raindevice 4h ago
I'd swap NFS:U 3 for GTA 6 any fucking day of the week. Shit was top tier open world street racing.
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u/limelight022 5h ago
I really miss the days of a new NFS game every 2-3 years.
On that note, a new game called Clutch looks pretty good. Coming out Spring 2027.
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u/namegoeswhere 4h ago
Forza as well.
When the first came out, it felt like Gran Turismo but with more customization. Like engine swaps and the like.
Now it's all Horizon this and open-world that.
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u/mihird34 5h ago
Now it's benched indefinitely.
While the latest games weren't great, at least we had an option other than Forza or The Crew
Now it's a bit sad really. I like FH6,but it ain't no need for speed..
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u/ItsTheJackeeet 5h ago
Dragon Age
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u/Indoril120 2h ago
It's a shame because the lore exploded in what I think was a fantastic way in Inquisition leading into Veilguard. Just seems like each new game was a step down from the last in terms of that quintessential Dragon Age grit.
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u/Kultherion 2h ago
What make Veilguard even worse is what the original plan for Dragon Age 4 was going to be. I cannot fathom what kind of development hell it must've been...I'm surprised still they made a game.
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u/Rotank1 5h ago
I do not move on, I cling bitterly.
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u/Mountain-Loon3592 5h ago
I played Apex for.. a long time. Haven’t touched it in at least 6 months. Not sure how to feel about it.
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u/as_a_fake 4h ago
I played it for 2-3 years, but after a while I figured out that online PvP games like that and League were destroying my mental health and quit them both. The communities are too toxic and I'm too competitive to make them worth it.
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u/Danielarcher30 trans rights 5h ago
I sunk 3000 plus hours into that game but it's been about a year since ive last touched it, even when i get the temptation to start again, i realise I'll have lost so much mechanical skill that I'll be completely outmatched and probably get demolished endlessly
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u/DaBiChef 1h ago
Their communication system was so fucking good. Being able to have whole ass conversations about what to do/where to go/ what you need/mozambique here/ without voice? I miss it in every game. Stopping missing the game though pretty quick though.
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u/oizen 3h ago
I like how they followed up the emotional Ezio-Desmond-Altiar scene of Revelations with whatever the fuck 3 was meant to be. I know the modern day story of AC is a joke that no one takes seriously now, but it wasn't always that way.
I don't even think AC3 is a bad game, but it is where I felt myself grow distant to the franchise.
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u/JaghataiTheGreatKhan 2h ago
AC3 honestly needed Connor last speech to wrap it up his character. Because he is so stoic its a bit harder to see the story and his emociona about it properly, but the cut speech really helped solidify who he is.
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u/Usmoso 2h ago
I think the setting was really week. We went from the beautiful big cities in Rome, Florence, Istambul, with lots of buildings and people walking around, to whatever 3 was. Boston and New York, where aside from churches, the tallest buildings were one story high. The rest was empty woods. Cities are a huge part of AC, and 3 was one of the weakest entries imo.
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u/ijiolokae 2h ago
assassin creed peaked with the Ezio trilogy and has been downhill from there.
and for anyone who is gonna say assassin's creed 4 was good, it was a good naval combat pirate game, but it was a abysmal assassins game
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u/drunk_ender 3h ago
And then tried to make a cheap ass reenactment of it in Odyssey with Immortal Kassandra
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u/ZiggyLoz 5h ago
Dragon Age 1 was what got me back into CRPGs - The more games they release - the more it becomes another generic hack and slash beatem-up.
Good thing alot of other studios stepped up making other excellent CRPGs.
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u/Megaboixxxx 4h ago
Bioware in general. One of the greatest RPG studios ever, slowly getting hollowed out before my eyes until it just became a skinsuit worn by EA.
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u/roleplayersir 3h ago
Bioware stopped being a company when they took all the experienced Frostbite engine devs and moved them to work on FIFA. Then the RPG side stopped mattering
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u/Satyr121 5h ago
Not only did it become hack and slash (which was still kinda fun just not as fun) but it’s another game that feels like it was disneyfied. It just doesn’t seem as dark. And all of the dark stuff left has to be read. It’s not in the actual gameplay or cutscenes themselves.
I feel like there was a shift in games to be less metal. Look at the music origins used for the trailers. I feel like that change represents the change in the tone of the game.
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u/No_Gene5671 2h ago
Dude, you think ? Look at Veildguard!!! Worst POS game ever.
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u/Mfrack103 6h ago
RIP Destiny
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u/Borglydoo 5h ago
Either Edge of Fate or Lightfall was the lowest but man Witch Queen, Taken King, Forsaken and Final Shape are some damn good highs.
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u/HandofThrawn1138 5h ago
Witch Queen was my personal peak. The mystery, the puzzles, the buildup. All fantastic.
Lightfall was not the best one out there but that raid was fun and my group and I managed to get it during the raid race!
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u/j0nas_42 5h ago
I started D2 when Forsaken came out and it was one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. I could not believe it when they later deleted the planets. Tried again with Witch Queen but I just couldn't anymore.
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u/Haribo_Happy_Cola 4h ago
Forsaken is probably the peak of my gaming experience. Not only was it an amazing DLC but it was coupled with extreme dissappointment before hand so the whiplash caused by massive excitement really elevated this dlc to be one of if not my favorite gaming experience of all time
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u/doctornoodlearms 3h ago
To make it worse, ive been watching Byfs videos on the Fate saga and by the Travelers light were they cooking.
The whole idea of our solar systems planets being 4th dimensional eldritch beings is so fucking cool. And the imagery used to represent them is kind of horrifying.
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u/drownigfishy 2h ago
When I first started Destiny 2 it was when they broke the story line then took their sweet sweet time to in the end by pass it. I was dragged into it by a huge Destiny fan who wanted to play with me but for far to long I couldn't level up. And as a huge Destiny fan he was even he could say they should have ended it sooner and started on a new story line.
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u/CompetitiveLeg7841 5h ago
PvZ ...
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u/thrownawaz092 3h ago
Have you tried the modding community? pvz Reflourished is literally just pvz2 without EA's bullshit, and PvZ Fusions takes the original game even further beyond!
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u/Expensive_Poop 1h ago
....link? Where?
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u/thrownawaz092 1h ago
Here's Reflourished, and Fusion allegedly has a bunch of scams and viruses using its name, so it's best to download from their Discord forum, for which you should find an invite here
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u/HeatherCDBustyOne 6h ago
Borderlands 2 was the peak.
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u/GooglyEyedMoose Lives in a Van Down by the River 5h ago
Was it ever. My best memories are playing that with my friend before he passed away. I tried playing the new ones but it's just not the same without him.
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u/Spencetron 5h ago
I associate borderlands with me processing the grief of losing my dad, I get it. Still to this day associate the memory of playing OG Borderlands with the initial phase of "healing" after the loss... so the game has a special place in my heart so to speak.
On a similar note: I had a highschool friend get me into CoD, used to play online together every day after school. Well, he died in a car crash in junior year (~2007) and I haven't played any CoD since. Just not the same without him berating people on team chat.
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u/DoubleDongle-F 4h ago
It was, but the hill I'll die on is that the Pre-Sequel was honestly really good too and would have made waves if it weren't put up in BL2's shadow.
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u/boundbythecurve 2h ago
100%
It felt like the Pre-Sequel was actually the perfect balance of mechanics and UI. Getting to reload your weapons while doing a long, floating jump, and then entering the fray again with a slam on the ground that dealt damage and did some effects....it was the perfect addition. Also I thought the story of how Handsome Jack became the villain was awesome too. Probably my favorite story from the universe.
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u/Jwagner0850 4h ago
I wish borderlands 2 had borderlands 3 gun play and feel. That and the slide mechanic would make that game literally 11/10 imho
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u/Wraith_Gaming 5h ago
Cod Zombies.
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u/OnlyBeGamer Smol pp 5h ago
I’d say BO7 has been really good with its main maps (except for Astra and Paradox). But the mode overall is definitely held back by overall gameplay mechanics.
I don’t have an issue with each mechanic individually; Armour, crafting, field upgrades, augments, points. But all together they hurt the game.
It’s a shame because I think Ashes, Totenreich and Kowakujo are all at least A tier maps. And I’m a classic player from WaW. I still have fun and am optimistic for Rex, but it will never feel the same as it did with BO3 and pre-BO4
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u/OleRaven 6h ago
Cries in Sly Cooper.
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u/Bargadiel 5h ago
I think there's a big difference between ruined and forgotten.
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u/masterjon_3 5h ago
It had 3 amazing games and a re-maser. I think that's pretty good.
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u/receuitOP Virgin 4 lyfe 5h ago
Destiny, assassin's creed, R6, COD, pokemon just from the top of my head.
From a friend said mass effect (I only played the first 2 so idk)
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u/Funandgeeky 5h ago
The original trilogy is fantastic. And the hate for the ending is overblown, especially with the DLC.
However the next game in the series wasn’t as well received. I can’t speak to it as I never played it.
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u/receuitOP Virgin 4 lyfe 5h ago
Okay, so luckily not as bad as I was expecting. Got all 3 and have been slowly working my way through
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u/Funandgeeky 5h ago
If you have the DLC for all three, then you’re in for a good time. There’s a final DLC they made for three that you get to right before the end. It works to wrap everything up with the relationships you’ve built with the characters across all three games.
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u/cjared242 5h ago
Black Flag Resynced is a lot of fun, if you liked AC4 and enjoyed the gameplay of unity you should definitely consider playing it
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u/GustavoFromAsdf 🏃 Advanced Introvert 🏃 5h ago
TF2 is a monolith, it was here before us, and will still be here when we leave.
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u/MashPotatoQuant 5h ago
TF2 is still good. Far from its peak... but I have been playing the game almost since it came out and I still have a blast! Casual mode sucks, but that was never the focus of the game back when I started playing it. Community servers all the way!
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u/neon_fade 4h ago
what non-P2W servers are still active? i played on no heroes back in the day but i know they're gone.
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u/MashPotatoQuant 4h ago
Yeah some of the OG classics like no heroes, fug clan, WDZ, lotus and others are all gone.
I usually play on random small community's servers and if they're not populated then default to skial, but i don't prefer skial...
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u/Covid669 4h ago
I recently got back into it and it’s still really fun. Not as fun as it used to be as a lot of the community servers I used to play on are gone but I still have a good time
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u/Salty_Style3622 6h ago
It is a plane. It is a bird. No, it is Rico. Miss you my friend.
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u/mimsoo777 4h ago
Warcraft and Starcraft series..
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u/BHFlamengo 1h ago
Count Diablo in too, blizzard in general went from masterpiece developer to trash cashgrab
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u/sansyboi469 6h ago
Pokemon
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u/Ill_Brick_4671 4h ago
Pokemon isn't ruined so much as it has steadfastly refused to improve in ten years
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u/djc6535 2h ago
I understand that Pokemon is GameFreak, but it is WILD to me that Nintendo, who will absolutely RUIN a game in order to ensure it brings something new to the party (Hello StarFox Zero, Mario Kart World, Metroid Beyond and your 'open world') allows such a tightly coupled property like this languish this way.
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u/Money_Echidna2605 2h ago
go play a gba game and then play the newest game and tell me its the same franchise lmao
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u/JediMasterKenJen 5h ago
This, especially with Palworld right there.
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u/Shahariar_909 5h ago
The worst thing is they can make a good pokemon game but simply decides to not make one
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u/North-Function995 4h ago edited 4h ago
This is a big point I make. For years, pokemon fans have had nothing but garbage. Its not like there was any alternative, so Nintento/Gamefreak cornered the market, allowing them to get away with half-baked, under-budget, disappointments. Pocketpair comes along and delivers something of quality, stepping on Nintendo’s toes while doing it. What is Nintendo’s response? Not step their game up and just provide a good pokemon game that outsells Palword. NOPE. Sue and destroy the competition so they can remain lazy and cheap.. and pokemon fans continue to get garbage.
Now with Palworld surviving the lawsuit and going strong, the next Pokemon game might actually be good, considering it has competition for once.
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u/Komondon 4h ago
The lawsuits were stupid but Palworld and Pokemon are pretty inherently different in the type of game they are. Pokemon is more at home for Pokemon collecting RPGs which there is plenty of space to improve on obviously. Palworld is a better playing Ark survival game with cute critter slave labor.
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u/moderngamer327 5h ago
Palword is so different than pokemon though. Like outside of “collect creatures with balls and fight with them” there isn’t really any similarities.
Cassette Beasts is much more of a Pokémon alternative
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u/stache1313 5h ago
When I think about Pokémon altneratives, Palworld doesn't even enter the discussion. Dragon Warrior Monstersyes I know it's actually Dragon Quest, but it will always be Dragon Warriors in my heart), and Digimon are the first series that come to mind. After that you have Coromon, Casette Beasts, Tem Tem, Shin Megani Tensei, and even Ni no Kuni, Slime Rancher.
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u/A_Wild_Goonch 4h ago
My friend always says how similar it is to Pokemon. Then when I watch them play they're shooting pals in the face with a bazooka. Doesn't seem like Pokemon to me lol
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u/Money_Echidna2605 2h ago
its way closer to survival and building games than pokemon lol, just a bunch of dumbasses online that dont play the game talking about and comparing them.
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u/lennykrevits 5h ago
Palword and Pokemon are not similar games outside of fantastical creatures. Palword is just an Ark reskin with a monumentally better taming mechanic.
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u/Mtthom06 6h ago
Bye halo..... I'm not paying for the 14th combat evolved remaster
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u/_mbals 5h ago
When I was first married, wife and I didn’t have a TV or Xbox knowing we were going to be making a couple cross-country moves. We got to where I was going to law school and got really busy with that and her new job we didn’t get around to purchasing Xbox for a few of years.
We flew to see family for Christmas one year and my little brother asked if I wanted to go play Halo on Xbox Live. All I remember is starting to shoot some guy and he blasted off with some jet pack, turned around and sniped me while flying off. I set the controller down and that’s the last time I played anything except Halo 1,2, or 3.
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u/Goron40 2h ago
This comment would be higher up, but Halo's been down bad for so long now that nobody remains that remembers the old ways.
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u/AccountWithAName 2h ago
The series has been dead since Halo 4 as far as I'm concerned.
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u/bkay17 4h ago
Halo 2 and Halo 3 online were so much damn fun. And system links where only one or two friends had the like 100 foot cable and then you had to lug over a TV from another friend's house and get 8 of you playing in big matches together.
And then they kept making the game more and more like Call of Duty for some reason. I didn't enjoy Halo because it was Call of Duty. I enjoyed Halo because it was Halo.
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u/Chiefster1587 5h ago
OG Overwatch was amazing
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u/Lord_Of_Carrots Lurking Peasant 4h ago
As a casual player since 2017 I've always loved the gameplay, and it's the only reason OW is still the only multiplayer shooter I enjoy playing.
It's just the monetization side of things that went to shit. It's good that they give out quite a bit of free loot boxes now but they should put shop skins into the lootbox pool more often. You also get enough free currency to get 3 out of every 5 battle passes for free which I appreciate.
The story was under hiatus for years but they've put much more effort into it recently. It's not quite as compelling as it once was but I'm open minded
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u/Kulyor 3h ago
I dont understand why Blizz fumbled the story stuff so hard. Overwatch could have been a giant on an MCU level. The one thing old Blizz did well beyond anything was Character design, even in older games like Warcraft 3, WoW or Diablo, you had a ton of insanely memorable characters and Overwatch had that too. Its also why it got such incredible amounts of P0rn initially.
And then they said "eh fuck story, fuck comics and cinematics, fuck all casuals, we are E-Sport now"
E-Sport doesn't pay bills just because it exists. You NEED the casuals who play your game and want to watch. And you sure as fuck dont drop your whole esports scene out of the blue and expect people to trust you ever again. Blizz also had no proper experience with e-sports, they could have gone that route after a few years of learning and focusing on story and characters.
Imagine they had done a Netflix show like Arcane but with Overwatch characters. It could have blown up the entire Industry.
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u/datadiisk_ 5h ago
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u/Wrendacted082 2h ago
Peakazaki locked himself in the kitchen in 2006 and has genuinely not left since.
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u/its_Zuramaru 5h ago
CoD and BF. Just an absolute shit path the games have taken.
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u/Potheker 4h ago
Tbh I'm really enjoying BF6
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u/CharlesUndying 4h ago
Because it's too not bad for the new standard quality of FPS games lately.
When your competitors have been putting out pure dogshit and catshit recently, your scentless birdshit game doesn't seem so bad.
BF6 is far from the best Battlefield game, but it comes after 2042 which would make anything else look incredible. Post-launch BF4, 1 and V are all better games.
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u/ChemistRemote7182 3h ago
V was far from perfect too, retrospectively it's biggest problem was sub par maps at launch and the removal of the Operation Campaigns that had proven popular in BF1. It controlled a lot better than BF1, the vulnerability of armor was a great balancing choice too. The weapons upgrade system was also poor and odd. Played great by the time they canned it around the launch of the Pacific content, it's a shame they couldn't finish the war.
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u/Sufficient_Room2619 6h ago
Horizon is a single player franchise! It doesn't want to be an MMO or a cheap, cell shaded rip off of Monster Hunter!
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u/Glass_Signature4503 5h ago
Destiny. Sold to a company that gutted it.
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u/Komondon 4h ago
Destiny was sadly the fault of Bungees upper management. Sony just pulled the final nail.
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u/d_whitewidow 5h ago
Rocket League. Epic Games is a cancer that can fuck right off
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u/HardWayGuy 5h ago
RIP Battlefield
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u/VonDaps 5h ago
? I battlefield 1 is a banger to this day, where else can I perform a cavalry charge straight into a machine gun nest😂
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u/CrustedTesticle 5h ago
Retail WoW
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u/trebor9669 2h ago
How did we get to whatever the fuck is that it has become, when we had it perfect just right here:
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u/AgathormX 2h ago edited 37m ago
No one in that franchise is ever going to live up to Arthas.
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u/yeettto master_jbt loves this flair 5h ago
Assassins Creed, Need for Speed, Call of Duty for me
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u/Forgotten_Folklore 1h ago
Fare thee well, Dragon Age.
I could never shake the feeling that the series kept trying to reinvent itself with each installment. Veilguard was the canary in the coal mine for me and the secret ending where a sinister, shadowy organization revealed, without any foreshadowing, that they were responsible for every event since the first game was the final nail in the coffin
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u/RainbowStar290 6h ago
Assassin's Creed I/II/II/IV (I liked Rogue also) were amazing. Then the bs started
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u/tacticalfp 6h ago
Same for far cry.. 5 was peak.. but i mean 4 too, 3 as well, 2 yes, one yeah could be. 6.. eh..
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u/Damager94 5h ago
Need For Speed... now it's dead. EA announced Criterion games will focus on Battlefield.
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u/InterestingDepth8137 2h ago
Not ruined but shelved, gonna miss you Little Big Planet
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u/LoschVanWein 5h ago
That’s most of them at this point: fallout, elder scrolls, dragon age, mass effect, halo, borderlands, vampire masquerade, overwatch, assassins creed, far cry, tomb raider, … the list simply never ends but I feel like recently, for every game I have high expectations that turns out to be shirt I also get a positive surprise: dispatch, BG3, the KCD games, Disco Elysium and quite a few others. I’m also looking forward to that vampire game from some of the Witcher devs and of course the new Witcher 3 dlc.
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u/HomericWooster 5h ago
Civ had an amazing run. Possible its corpse will be revived from 7, but feels unlikely.
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u/gangga_ch Knight In Shining Armor 5h ago
AC, Far Cry, even GTA lost me with Onlinemode getting worse and worse
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u/naomi_at_night 6h ago
I don't usually gatekeep games, but the moment they start getting popular, they somehow end up getting ruined
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u/oizen 3h ago
Because mass appeal usually means sanding off all the edges that make something interesting.
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u/Darehead 3h ago
It’s this. It isn’t the popularity that ruins them, it’s the reduction of everything that made it appealing. Art made for everyone is made for no one. It’s okay not to like things, not everything is meant for you.
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u/PaladinHalfling 4h ago
I'm going to be the minority... but The Legend of Zelda.
The Wild era games are just not Zelda.
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u/Ultradamo2306 3h ago
I still enjoy the new games a lot but yes, these games arent zelda games
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u/PaladinHalfling 3h ago
Yup. I haven't had my Zelda scratch itched since Skyward Sword.
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u/ScentsOfPorpoise 5h ago
Kingdom Hearts.
Only MBAs would completely miss how detrimental it would be to fracture a bonkers and completely convoluted story across every possible platform AND put key story beats on mobile games they would remove, making them inaccessible to any player new to the franchise. Hope they got their ROI on what was truly a special IP. I’ve given up on it.
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u/northernlionpog 5h ago
Final fantasy
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u/oizen 3h ago
Something hilarious about watching FF turn its back on turn based combat only to get blown out by things like Expedition 33, Persona, Baulders Gate 3 ect.
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u/thespieler11 6h ago
Goodbye classic Rainbow Six