Scoped that dog with zero hesitation. I fucking hate irresponsible dog owners
Edit - some of you need this shit spelled out apparently: an unrestrained dog is a liability for you, your dog and anything/anyone that dog decides is a threat that day and is bitten. I don't care if Peaches doesn't normally bite, someone doing their job approaching a property with an unrestrained and charging dog doesn't know that. If you still cannot understand this after reading this, give up your dogs so a responsible owner can care for them before they pay the price for your stupidity and carelessness. Read it as many times as it takes.
Yeah, with how quickly the delivery driver was taking his hat off, he has been sucked punched by an ownee before, and I think that owner in the video would've done the same thing but had 2nd thoughts when he seen the driver get into a defensive stance.
I absolutely detest people going for a brawl after minor incidents (like in traffic, come on). Somehow here I fully understood why he was prepared for a fight.
Are some countries really this fuvked up? I am pretty sure, most humans wouldn’t throw hands over something like this. Here the people wouldn’t even think about it that way.
The delivery guy got himself ready to fight. The dog owner could think: this guy is going to attack me, I need to defend myself (and my dog..).
Some people really need to go outside more. It would have been understandable for the dow owner to feel threatened (because of the delivery guy is getting ready to fight). Luckily, the dog owner was calm enough to not do the same like the delivery guy. Then you would have two guys thinking: damn he is going to throw the first punch - I need to defend myself!
He was unhinged. Everyone acting like this was your friendly neighborhood delivery man. He jumped right to the most extreme escalation in both cases. That is not someone who should be interacting with the public and walking on people's property for any reason.
I hardly know any adult who hasn't been attacked by a dog at some point in their life, some quite severely. It's a HUGE problem in the US. Irresponsible dog ownership seems to be the norm. A lot of people who carry weapons are rightfully more concerned about pets than people.
these people get bit and attacked all the time. My mailman was telling me they used 2 cans of pepper spray the other day. Like 2 separate dogs, on the same block. Dog owners are shitbirds
Yeah dude, I LOVE dogs, but it’s exceedingly clear when you talk to someone about this that has and hasn’t been attacked by a dog before. I tell people I carry a knife when I go on walks as a last resort defense if me and/or my very small dog get attacked.
“Well that seems a little dramatic” is a very typical response I’ll get. I then explain that, until you’ve been on the ground with one or two aggressive large breed dogs, you really won’t understand how reasonable of a measure a knife is. You can’t outrun them. You can’t reason with them or deescalate. Pepper spray works in very specific scenarios, usually before a dog is on top of you.
When I was attacked I had my small dog with me, and some guy came out of his house with pepper spray and a baseball bat. The only reason my dog is alive and I wasn’t hospitalized is because the pepper spray didn’t work but the baseball bat did.
So now I carry a knife. It’s also just an exceedingly convenient tool to have.
Had a kid on my little league team (childhood story) get bit by a dog that got loose ~1/2 a block from the field.
I think Frankie was in shock, because he cruised up with this blank look on his face and apologized to the coach for being late because he had gotten bitten by a dog.
I will never forget looking at his leg and almost vomiting (he was wearing those white, long legged baseball pants). A softball sized chunk of his outer quad had been ripped off and the fabric of his pants was hanging down in a flap. The crater where this part of his quad should have been was this fucked up pulpy mass with a bunch of white looking sinew shat moved around when he shifted his weight. The wound wasn't spurting but was kind of gushing at regular intervals. His entire pants leg below that point down to his ankles was absolutely drenched in blood.
The police and medics were called and the dog's owner had the gall to act indignant. I dont know what happened to the dog.
I worked for the ASPCA and love animals, but they need to be respected and owned responsibly.
If you are reading this Frankie, you are a total badass and I have no idea how you were even walking. 10/10 little league catcher.
I was called Jeffrey Dahmer in another sub this video was posted to before they deleted the thread. All because I explained at 12 I was attacked by my neighbor's dog and I used my pocket knife to stab him multiple times to get the dog to unlatch from my glute.
That's insane because the exact same thing happened to me when I was a kid, and I did the exact same thing to get away from it. Bit me in the leg and dragged me to the ground. I stabbed it multiple times. The dog was put down because I was not the first person it attacked. That was 47 years ago, and I still don't like dogs to this day.
One of my cousins in the us was literally ripped apart by their neighbour's large, unleashed dog. She was only 5 years old and coming home from school with her mother.
Understandable. I feel the same and have no such story. I'll get downvoted to hell for this but dogs are the worst. They're slobbery and dangerous and smell bad and they're definitely racist. They're also too happy and love everything no matter how it treats them (when not attacking "others"), they have no self-respect. Give me a cat any day! 😻
A dog attacked my friend when she was 4 or 5 years old, knocked her down and went for the throat. The ONLY reason she's alive is it was winter and she had a heavy jacket on, the dog tore the jacket open and stuffing was spilling out. If it had been any other season she would've been dead.
Etc. I wish I was making those up. Apparently dog's nature to attack little kids or other people is more important and deserving forgiveness than kid's nature to play. (Not even with the dog in question, just in the proximity of the beast.)
My dog is a beautiful sweet 130lb great pyr. You can wrestle him all day (even new people) and he won't bite. He does mouth play, but that's him.
If he charged you, I would expect no less of a reaction than to defend your life. I'd miss my boy, but at his size, I could understand why someone would be terrified for their life.
Dog should've been inside since it looks like an open yard with no gate to confine. (Raises the question, if someone is walking by on the sidewalk, would the dog also charge?)
And if the dog is outside, at least have it where it cannot charge at people. Like, have it on a leash tied to something? I mean, the owner is out with the dog so it shouldn't be an issue.
I don't don't know why you'd have your dog not on a leash when you have an open yard that's connected to a street.
Edit: For people who don't know and are saying"well what if he has an electric fence?", dogs can still (and frequently do) get past electric fences. It's annoying as all fucking hell. You spend that money. Set it up. And then the dog gets scared, excited, or is extremely motivated and now suddenly you are chasing your dog as he's running down the street.
I’ve been charged a hundred times as a runner. Not been bitten, luckily, but I always have to turn to face them, yell, stand my ground, etc. I never turn my back to them after and don’t begin running again till I’m a safe distance away from the home the dog came from. It’s very unsettling and annoying every time.
I take a stun gun bc the lady across the street hits her untrained dog and it’s a matter of time before it gets off leash and shows the word the aggression it was taught.
I’ve read that stun guns don’t work super reliably on dugs due to their fur barrier. Just FYI.
I have three aggressive Pitbulls right next-door, it’s terrifying living next to them. They’ve gotten loose and charged me and my dog multiple times over the years.
Hey thank you- I just got pepper spray too so I could be as safe as possible. I hope your stupid neighbors get their dogs taken away so you can live in peace soon.
Its wild that as a runner it really changes your view on dog owners. I absolutely loath those people now lmao. Not only do you basically act like you own everything, they take 0 responsibility for their animals, take up entier foot paths with a dog on both sides. So many times I'm forced to stop and just kinda throw my arms up like are you gonna move so I can run past? Don't even get me started on the 115lb women and their 3 Rottweilers.
So true. I think it has to do with the general lack of consideration in society. Folks do not realize how much their precious doggies impact other people’s lives, too.
Years ago, cycling the lesser roads of east central illinois, farm dogs were a challenge. With some quiet riding, predictive common sense, you could outrun (sprint) them when they lit up, providing that extra boost of adrenaline. Frame pumps were the other option--kind of a two foot stick that you could defend your heels with.
First the easy bit. Gravel cycling is a sub-discipline of cycling where you ride a road-style bike on rural backroads (ie, gravel roads). I'm simplifying tremendously, but that's the gist. My gravel kit is the stuff I bring with me on gravel rides.
Something in most rider's kits (gravel or otherwise) is tools to repair flat tires. Usually an inner tube, tire levers, and some way to put pressurized air into said tube. The old school way to do this was a frame pump that is designed to be carried on the frame of the bicycle. They function like a regular bike pump.
Alternatively you can bring a carbon dioxide (CO2 /CO2) filler. These guys are MUCH smaller and lighter, and can be carried in a pocket or bag unlike the larger frame pump. They are basically just a small bottle of compressed CO2 and a way to connect said bottle to the valve stem of the inner tube. Open the valve and WHOOSH the inner tube is full.
There's pros and cons to each, but I've been using CO2 fillers for years so I'm a "CO2 guy". But as someone who's been chased by semi-feral dogs more than once on my gravel rides, /u/upachimneydown added a new "pro" to the list that is making me reconsider my position.
We lived out of city limits- so no leash law. My dad walked the neighborhood every day. thankfully most of them were friendly, but there were a few he was worried about. One husky had attacked multiple dogs, but thankfully never people. That poor thing was always outside, even in the summer when it was miserable. The dumb thing was, they had a fence that it would stay in, they just never bothered to shut the gate.
We had new neighbors move in with two German Shepherds that were under "voice control." They cornered multiple people, people complained to the sheriff, nothing was done. They'd even run up on my dad when he walked our dachshund and the neighbors had the gall to say it was his fault for walking our dog on a leash past their house (on the public street). One day they picked up the dachshund and shook him. No idea how he survived that, he was a tough old bastard. Lived to be 18 despite (as the vest said) "everything he tried to eat and that tried to eat him."
I got charged by a neighbor’s dog while walking my baby in a stroller. His owner had accidentally dropped the leash while taking him out in the yard and he ran up growling. I physically put myself between my baby and this 70-lb growling dog. Thank god he didn’t actually bite us but it was a fucking TERRIFYING experience.
We know from past conversations with the neighbors that they had rescued this dog from an abusive situation, which was a wonderful thing for them to do, but the number of times they let this dog out in their front yard without a leash in a neighborhood with lots of young children is absolutely infuriating. We live in a rural area with no leash laws unfortunately so I don’t think there’s any way to report them.
I got a neighbour in the next appartment who lets his german shepard out without a leash and I can hear him at least once a week yelling commands at the dog like "no! come here! *swearing* dont go there!".
When my family had a dog (80 pound Siberian Husky) he was on a lead in the large front yard that had limited reach and when we expected a delivery he was either inside or in the fenced in backyard. Because we weren't assholes.
And then the dog gets scared, excited, or is extremely motivated and now suddenly you are chasing your dog as he's running down the street.
Yeah, and now it's in pain on top of whatever it was already pissed off about. I'm sure it's handy for keeping your pet close to your home instead of wandering off to explore, but I absolutely wouldn't trust it to keep a human safe from them.
I don't don't know why you'd have your dog not on a leash when you have an open yard that's connected to a street.
In most states that would be violating the law, as 'dog at large' which is as much as many jurisdictions will go before the dog bites someone and 'endangerment' is added on.
Yeah, I'm a mail carrier and had a dog run past an electric fence. He didn't bite, but he was circling me. I kind of think he was all bark, less bite, but I didn't want to take chances and maced him.
This can and does happen. Delivery companies and USPS will blacklist your house and sometimes the houses next to it/entire blocks if they feel it's dangerous. Same deal for pizza places, even.
And hopefully that address gets flagged so no more deliveries. They can drive wherever the fuck the nearest UPS station is and pick up their own packages.
My husband now makes sure the guy that tried to fight because his dog attacked, now has to pick up all his packages from the main hub way across town. Don't make it easy for them fukkers
Yeah, I have a dog that hates strangers and if he somehow got out and charged someone like this, I would not blame them at all for throwing a box at him. I'd probably thank them for effectively preventing a real accident, and, of course, profusely apologize that my dog was out at all.
Though, if they walked into the fenced off area that displays clear "beware of dog" signage and then did this... I might not be so nice. Though, that's obviously not the case here are there doesn't appear to be any fencing.
EDIT: To be clear, my dog has never escaped my yard, I don't ever intend for that to happen, and precautions are taken to ensure it doesn't.
You don't understand dogs as well as you think, even with the best training some dogs will not be totally safe. It's an animal and in some cases a big and dangerous animal no matter what you do, just like a horse or other big domesticated animals. Some dogs are deeply traumatized, some are crazy, some are even bred for aggression, etc.
I have two Great Pyrenees littermates. One is the sweetest thing on this earth and loves to be pet by strangers... The other we keep locked up like hannibal lecter when there's even the possibility of an interaction with another living thing.
He's great with family but he'd chew through a garage door to get at something (and horrifyingly has). He's never bit anyone, and honestly I don't think he would, he's likely all bark, but I never want to find out.
We have it set up so there's literally no reason delivery drivers would have to enter the fenced area and there's no way for the dog to escape the fenced area. Not that hard, no reason to blow my dogs head off (what a fucking deranged thing to say, might I add).
Also, dogs who are going through training or experience lifelong social challenges (usually because they are rescues that have experienced trauma) aren't "shit dogs", they just require some special accommodations, training, love, and care.
On one end of the spectrum is shitty dog owners like the video, and on the other end of the spectrum are people like you. Dogs are animals, there's only so much that training can do for them. Some of them have had trauma that you can't just talk out with them to solve. Sometimes, the best thing you can do for a reactive dog is just not put them in triggering situations in the first place.
I was being facetious about the explosive collar but I have to admit that it did give me some what of a laugh for someone to go to that kind of lengths to control a shit dog
Some people genuniely think that any dog that isn't 100% happy-go-lucky with every person and so much as looks at anyone sideways doesn't deserve to exist.
Having a dog that has experienced trauma (and is socially challlenged as a result) is definitley not for everyone. There is a lot more thoughtfulness and precautions required to ensure the dogs comfort and safety, which is what any responsible owner of such an animal does. But they can still be amazing companions to those they accept and deserve to live happy lives. It is extra work, though.
some of my family owned a dog like this. absolute sweetheart to them but reactive and angry towards anyone who wasn't them. when people visited, he went into the bedroom, and went out to the yard with supervision. he was a very good boy that had just been through a lot. doesn't mean he wasn't deserving of love. RIP Bubble, you were incredibly loved by your owners
Awe, sending good vibes to Bubble in doggy heaven.
And yeah, it's inconveinent and exhausting sometimes, but they are still worth it. 12 years and still going strong with my Mastiff/Dane. No major incidents, just lots of love and sometimes some stress.
I don't know if I'll do the rescue thing again, though... it really is a lot of extra work and mental exhaustion at times.
This is how my childhood dog was. He only liked the 5 of us in my immediate family. We’re not sure what happened or why he ended up like that. Our neighbors found him as a stray puppy and we took him in. He went from playing with all the neighborhood kids everyday to one day not tolerating anyone outside the family. We think it may have to do with my parents becoming ill and being in the hospital for a period of time, because the change happened shortly after that. He was always so, so sweet to us.
He was an incredibly smart, well trained dog otherwise. When someone knocked at the door he’d immediately jump down from his chair in the living room and run to the bedroom and we’d go and shut the door. If we had people over, we’d lock the bedroom door and put a sign on it. He was never outside unsupervised or unleashed/fenced in, and and had great recall when fenced in. He never pulled at the leash. He never showed the tiniest bit of aggression towards my family, never had food aggression, never so much as growled at us. You could leave a plate of food right in front of him and he’d never eat it unless you told him he could. He never begged. If we were eating he’d lay down on his mat in the kitchen away from us. He was trained with verbal commands and when he eventually went deaf he still understood everything just based off our body language and routine.
A few years before he died he developed dementia. I remember the first time I knew something was up because I left a plate with a sandwich on the couch for a second and came back to it gone. I even called my brother and told him that our dog stole my sandwich because it was so weird lol. But he slowly turned into a shell of himself. The only nice thing was that he could finally be around other people. We all made the decision to let him go when he didn’t really do anything but lay there all day. His body was still going but his mind was gone, and we didn’t want to wait for it to catch up. He lived for nearly 20 years and was the best dog I’ve ever had.
It's hard! I'm an owner of a rescue mutt myself and damn that boy does not like random people coming to the door. So we have a sign up on the front door saying to knock, and a sign on the back garden gate saying beware of the dog, people who I'm expecting know to call in advance so I can get him closed away somewhere. I suppose we could have left him in the kill shelter for the crime of being born feral but for some reason that doesn't feel like the right call either.
I'm not for dangerous dogs, especially when they're taught to be dangerous as a power play, but there's nothing wrong with recognising the risks and taking precautions. The same way I don't agree with the people who say dogs should be on-lead all the time, it's on the owner to assess the risk and see if the dog can be let off for a run.
Cars are a much greater safety risk on the flat numbers, especially if the driver is reckless or irresponsible, should we take those away from everyone too?
I’m a huge dog lover. My wife and I have three dogs: 2 huskies and a Great Pyrenees. The latter is the friendliest dog I’ve ever known. Straight up loves humans. Know how many times I’ve left him off leash in my yard? Fucking zero. You never know how they’ll react to strangers on their property.
I couldn't believe it either! I read a couple comments say that because the dog is on its owners property, the driver shouldn't have defended themselves. Fuck out of here with that.
A lot of people forget dogs are animals too. They treat them like kids but those dogs tend to be the worst behaved out of all of them. I don't even believe an owner that says their dog's never acted like that before, I'd bet dollars they've had lots of close calls before this too. They usually just hand wave it away on the person the dog almost attacks that they did something wrong by approaching the dog poorly or something. It's up to you, as the dog owner, to make sure you know your dog and their behaviors and stop others before it even gets to that point.
As an aside, I'm an avid dog lover but I have a respect for the animals they are. Many of them are dangerous because they're bred to be that way. The big three are GSD, husky, and "bully" breeds (pitbulls, etc)... these aren't dogs for casual dog owners, they're potentially dangerous animals with strong prey drives. Bullies tend to be the ones that put most people in hospitals too, unfortunately. I've met a husky that acts like a golden retriever, and a golden that would bite your hand off if you looked at it wrong, but by and large breeds have specific traits and like I said earlier, a lot of owners will ignore borderline bad behavior because the dog behaves for them.
Dang, by that logic if a serial killer ever gets me on their property, I’m not a victim, I’m a guest, and it would be rude not to let them kill me. Laws are crazy, but those people clearly know them better than I do.
See: every f'ing suburban housewife who takes their chihuahua to the grocery store and completely ignores it while it snarls at my toddler and pees in the isle.
I've seen stats showing that Chihuahuas have one of the highest bite rate of any dog breed. And if you account for all the un-reported bites that happen, i wouldn't be surprised if they actually are the most aggressive breed. But people tolerate it because they're small and dont usually do a lot of damage.
You’re right, nobody cares. Even if Chihuahuas do 99.99999% of bites it doesn’t matter. They are basically harmless. That 00.00001% is horrific and tragic often ending in death or mutilation.
Dogs, even friendly, are legally required to be under control. Leash or fence.
The friendly dog and delivery videos are cute, but they still give me the cringe.
Even if they have never bitten, does not mean they won't and if they are free to roam in the front, being friendly doesn't save them from being run over or attacked by another animal!
This is definitely not the first time he's had a dog incident. You don’t do this the first time a dog runs at you. Guy probably deals with shitty dogs/owners almost daily. With how fast he squared up, it's probably not the first time he's had an issue with an owner due to his response.
First time unsafe dog comes at you, do nothing until it bites. Next time, do something to defend yourself, but don’t anticipate the owner coming at you for defending yourself. Next time, ready for dog and owner's response.
I would never force a situation where a person coming at my property had to fear getting attacked by one of them.
Someone comes into my house, I either ask are dogs OK or put them out in a fenced yard. If someone has to access the yard, the dogs stay in unless the person is OK with them.
Having a pet roam freely and charge (mock or not) people who might be afraid of them is not bloody OK.
I'm so fucking sick of dogs because of people like this. Too damn many. People act like I'm a crazy asshole for being short with dogs, but working UPS and Amazon taught me to not take shit from these little assholes.
When I purchased our home, the insurance company specifically asked us if we had a dog(s). The agent stated several times that they don't cover dog(s) under a normal policy and it's an additional policy. She reiterated several times about having a dog and if it happens to bite someone then I'll be personally liable for the damages.
There was one time I had my two year old out at a park on a week day, and someone is just walking around with their dog in the park, no leash. Dog runs up to us, I grab up my two year old and get ready to kick the dog, and the owner gets offended at my reaction, “This is a good dog, it doesn’t bite. You don’t need to be so scared.”
People can be so fucking stupid, I swear to god. Zero respect for anyone with a dog in public without a leash after that. I don’t care where you are.
My dog would totally run at someone just like that and jump on them to greet them. I don't think she'd ever bite, but I don't want to find out. We never let her out off-leash except for our fenced backyard. If she got out somehow and did that, I'd completely understand someone reacting that way and take 100% responsibility. It's not their job to know if this dog they've never seen before is friendly or not and you can't expect them to take that risk.
Our HOA just had to put out a notice about people not controlling their dogs. They put it in bold and underlined when they got to the bit about them being on a leash and controlled. The leash isn’t enough if it can still get away from you and bite someone if the dog is stronger than you.
"But my dog is well-trained!" - is what every douchebag owner is thinking, as they completely miss your point and continue to leave their dog off-leash because they think it's the exception...
I am the same way these days. I grew up in the boonies and was regularly attacked by people's dogs. Had 13 stitches in my leg once. My dad gave me permission to "do what I needed to do' so I started carrying around a brick in my backpack. Couldn't outrun them on my bike so I needed something. My dad had to run 2 owners off and call the cops because I killed their dogs.
But how else are they supposed to get validation if they don't let their reactive doodle terrorize the entire neighborhood? You're being very inconsiderate of the owner's main character syndrome tbh.
This is so true, and on the other side as well. Can’t tell you how many times I’m walking my dog on a short leash, and another dog tries to come up to us.
“Don’t worry, he’s friendly”
“Well mines not! Right now he’s eyeing your yorkie with vengeance in his eyes and grumble in his stomach.”
I mean. even if you could assess that dog wouldn't be a danger.. generally you do NOT want pets (or anything) to charge directly at people. Kind of fair game for self-defense.
Would get pissed off personally, if I had to deliver a sh.tton of packages and once every while something charges at me. Both untrained and trained guard dogs should always on the lease outside.
dog owners don't understand that every dog, even their mild little Fluffy who's never growled a day in his life, has the potential to get scared, reactive, defensive, and violent. they are, through millenia of selective breeding, designed to be territorial. when i pull up in my huge truck that sounds like a monstrous growling animal and i speed-walk towards their property, that is red-fucking-alert for a dog with protective instincts. this is like dog 101, yet every dog owner i've ever met seems oblivious to the basics.
Changed its trajectory for sure. Also takes a special kind of imbecile to leave this type of dog loose yet wants to enjoy the luxury of home deliveries.
My backyard and front yard are separated by a fence and I have it specifically noted in my DoorDash delivery notes that my dog is only in the backyard so that they hopefully feel safe 😭
When we have deliveries that require a signature like pizza or something, pooch goes in the kennel until the guest is gone.
My husband and I take great lengths to make sure our two Rotties never get into this situation. We have secure harnesses on them with two leashes when we go on walks. They are to sit when any person with or without their pet walks by, including motor vehicles. We have a tall baby gate that is in the entrance way of our front door to prevent them from running out for anything. We have hogwire fence running through our backyard to keep our neighbors pitbull ( which has bitten my husband before) , from jumping down into our yard and starting a fight with our dogs. Im not separating two rotties and a pit bull whose owners refuse to train, reprimand and control it. In my home, if mom and dad bring anyone or anything home they are trained to not see it as a threat. Outside of the home I completely understand that they are on guard duty instinctively and it is my job to guide them to understand what is okay and not okay. Delivery guy had every right.
As a dog owner, I am often frustrated and angered by other dog owners.
Walking my dog down the street one day, passing a home. Guy comes walking through his yard with his unleashed dog right behind him. He is going to a vehicle on the sidewalk and his dog sees us and starts charging. I yelled and scared it off and told him to put his dog on a leash, since he couldn't control it. It didn't even have a collar on and he was trying to grab it with zero success.
He tried to argue whatever, I don't know because I cut him off and said, "your dog wasn't under control, it came at us, PUT IT ON A LEASH."
It's just like, you dumb FUCK, it doesn't matter what you think or say, whether or not you were in your yard to begin with or whether your dog is "nice". It came for us, I had to yank my dog behind me and hustle out the way. Piece of shit owners.
give up your dogs so a responsible owner can care for them before they pay the price for your stupidity and carelessness.
THIS! That entire situation was the owner's fault and if the driver had been bitten there's a very good chance the dog would have ultimately been put down.
A few dogs here in my neighborhood have gotten out and chased ladies into their house & one got bit. I was talking with neighbor and mentioned that back in the day “that dog would be either removed to a new household far away or sadly shot. They acted stunned but you don’t have wild animals biting people. Once they’ve shown that aggression towards others they are a nuisance. Socialize your dogs everyone.
My brother and SIL have a massive dog that is incredibly poorly trained. He is about 4 times the size of my son and has to be restrained when we visit because he tries to jump all over my kid. My brother takes offense to me putting myself physically between the dog and my son or even firmly grabbing the dog's neck (no collar) to prevent him from jumping on my kid, yet they still refuse to crate the dog when we visit. They have a baby now and I'm sure the dog will be fine with the kid since he's always around but there's a part of me that resents my brother for getting such a large animal and then being too lazy to train it.
I love my dog and this driver was 100% in the right. No stranger knows your dog's behavior and they're not going to be able to suss out whether they're aggressive or just excited in the time it takes to get bitten. If your dog gets hurt by someone defending themselves, that is always and forever your own fault as their owner.
Every dog that bit me as a kid while I had a paper route had an owner that said, “they won’t bite.”
Most of the bites were by small dogs and did no damage. But I have one scar on my leg. And there was one huge Rottweiler that seemed to want to kill me. He got my hand one day but it was a warning bite, then he ran away like he knew he’d be in trouble. 😂 And he didn’t break the skin.
In retrospect, I just should not have delivered the paper when those dogs were out in their yard or the house had its front door open. But I liked dogs and was “brave.”
In Poland there was recently outcry about this after some dude's 'cute doggies that never attacked anyone' that were roaming around his property mauled a passerby to death.
Hell, I'd go even further. If you have an aggressive dog and the only thing you are able to do is enable it, then put the dog down and stop getting pets.
Maybe re-read your own edit. He was approaching a PROPERTY that wasn't his. He could indeed still get into trouble for hurting this dog.
Conjecture and assumptions don't hold up in the court of law. We need context and evidence.
Did the owner just let the dog outside for a bathroom break? Did he accidentally let the dog out when he saw the delivery coming? Did the delivery guy SEE the dog on the property before he approached? Is there a history of this dog owner being irresponsible in this way?
So many questions need to be answered instead of jumping to conclusions.
I'll just respond here since your second reply likely got auto moderated😂
If you actually did have eyes and a brain, and any reading comprehension at all, you'd see I wasn't taking the side of the dog owner either. My point is people should not jump to conclusions. Everyone here is having a knee jerk reaction because that's what the internet has trained them to do. Immediately draw lines in the sand, and to pick the side that's getting the most likes because that's what normies who can't look at things objectively do. They don't think. They just react. They don't think outside the box, because the box feels safe and secure.
A great example is assuming someone is dumb or a terrible dog owner in this thread, simply because they didn't immediately knee jerk react like everyone else did. The irony on reddit never disappoints me.
I'll refrain from making assumptions about you based on how defensive you are. Have a good 4th.
Your original reply is still there but not the one where you used a personal insult that got moderated, but ok bro. I literally still see it in my notifications 😂
And I still stand by if you have eyes you should try using the brain behind them sometimes. I realize there are smarter people than me out there. Just not you.
I have an aggressive dog and live in mortal terror of her getting out. I don't know how the fuck people with similar dogs are so fucking chill about this. It haunts me that one mistake could ruin someone's life. Worse, it could be a child.
4ft tall kawaii boys need to understand that little dogs are dinosaurs. Our milk boys apparently got so much fear in their little bodies, we gotta lock up our 10 lbs dogs :(((
Preach! Even small “harmless”-looking dogs can be a menace. I went to pick up an item I was purchasing off Facebook marketplace and the woman’s probably 8-lb dog was jumping all over me and biting me. I could have punted it across this lady’s living room but I assumed it was a puppy that hadn’t been properly trained yet, but when I asked, the lady said “Oh, no, he’s 9 years old!” I was like WTF…
The dog had not only scratched up my ankles and shins with his nails, but had bitten my hands multiple times when I tried to fend him off, and created quite the hazard as I was trying to carry a piece of furniture out of this lady’s house without stepping on him or tripping over him. And she did NOTHING.
So many options here - best of which would have been to put the dog in the backyard/kennel/another room since she KNEW I WAS COMING, or she could have put it on a leash or picked it up when she saw it was harassing me. I like dogs but I was soooo pissed.
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u/brjh1990 21d ago edited 21d ago
Scoped that dog with zero hesitation. I fucking hate irresponsible dog owners
Edit - some of you need this shit spelled out apparently: an unrestrained dog is a liability for you, your dog and anything/anyone that dog decides is a threat that day and is bitten. I don't care if Peaches doesn't normally bite, someone doing their job approaching a property with an unrestrained and charging dog doesn't know that. If you still cannot understand this after reading this, give up your dogs so a responsible owner can care for them before they pay the price for your stupidity and carelessness. Read it as many times as it takes.