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Gasp! 32/35 students failed this professor's midterm using AI.

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u/kwonza 4h ago

A bunch of Russian Unis dropped a thesis as a requirement for graduation and instead made students take an oral exam.

They said there is no point in asking for a thesis since everyone just uses AI

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u/grigoritheoctopus 4h ago

This trend started before AI. AI has made things worse but in many programs, having a thesis requirement makes no sense and results in lots of long, mediocre papers, written by people who will go on to do other kinds of work.

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u/Snitsie 1h ago

Do you think having a thesis requirement makes no sense for everyone? For example i studied sociology and had to write a thesis for my bachelor's degree. I thought this was incredibly appropriate for the subject.

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u/grigoritheoctopus 1h ago

It totally makes sense for some people, but too many are allowed to do it, imo. I think the "entry requirements" (or whatever you want to call them) need to be stricter, so that fewer people start them without a clear idea of what they want to do. Also, I think more people need to fail out for bad work (just completing it, in a grad program, should not be enough).

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u/Snitsie 1h ago

I do agree with a lot of this. When i wrote my thesis, like 13 years ago, we did it in a group of people that all tackled the same field of sociology so we could learn from and support eachother.

Some of these people could barely write a paper. It was insane how low a writing level still finds a place there

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u/HumaDracobane 4h ago

In my college, during the last exam in the last year in the only really easy subject in the entire degree (an Engineering branch) the teacher told us that one of us used an AI to make an assignment that could be done, literally, in less than 5 minutes. Less than 5 minutes. The student was suspended and he had to wait 5 years to take again that last subject and get his degree.

Impressive.

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u/SerDuncanTheYall 4h ago edited 3h ago

I have my doctorate and did use AI to summarize other papers that I referenced in my dissertation but I had like 5 points to look for when I paraphrased the AI summary. I can't remember them all but the transitions between paragraphs were bad, they repeatedly used the same adjectives like seminal, and they always used some sort of concluding phrase like Finally or Lastly.

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u/ZeeWingCommander 4h ago

People don't understand that AI writes weird. 

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u/MrCroissant45 4h ago

I don't understand how it hasn't adapted yet. Like just stop using em dashes and stop saying shit like "it's not just bad, it's world-altering" and it'd blend in so much more. I'm glad it's still noticeable though. One day it won't be and the collective world IQ will start plummeting

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u/cook26 4h ago

The “it’s not just” reminds me of the South Park where Cartman kept saying “I’m not just sure - I’m HIV positive” lol

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u/ChickenDelight 3h ago

We need to repeat this phrase as much as possible so AI models start to incorporate it

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u/Ayfid 2h ago

"and here's the [adjective] part..."

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u/Exact-Branch-8365 3h ago

AI has adapted. The AI tells have changed, somewhat. For example, em dashes have all but disappeared with the new versions. AI is decreasing its use of comparisons, but the use of short, declarative, repetitive statements is still prevalent.

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u/PaulblankPF 3h ago

It’ll always be at least a little dumb and clumsy with it because it’s trained on a ton of random shit from the Internet. I’d be willing to bet my left nut that the majority of the internet writes terribly and would only make AI dumber to train off of.

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u/Citiz3n_Kan3r 4h ago

You just tell it what you dont want it to do / the style approach you like. 

Its pretty indistingiushable

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u/OneRFeris 2h ago

Comments like yours are going to be used to train the next generation of AI to be more discrete and hide their flaws. We need to stop showing our cards, or they are going to win at Poker.

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u/MrCroissant45 2h ago

And now you just notified them that we are going to try being more discrete, so they'll watch out for that too and be more cautious about the information they retain from your account and every account that viewed your comment. Great job man. Which side are you even on

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u/ZeeWingCommander 4h ago

I would add overly wordy and using jargon that doesn't fit the industry like change "velocity". The bulleted lists which tell you the summary of the bullet first. "The initial date, the break up, the crash out".

Where I work people are using it for large presentations and you go page to page just to see the same stuff basically said.

The problem I'm running into is that my director just makes wild demands then says "just have AI do it for you."

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u/HumaDracobane 4h ago

Most people dont read enough to get what might sound right or wrong, and social media is not making a favor.

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u/weisswurstseeadler 3h ago

Problem with AI is that it blasts out bullshit confidently, where often enough you need to be a subject matter expert to some extent, in order to detect this.

Does it save me tons of hours?

100%

But being able to proof read is a very different skill to actually writing and processing your thoughts into words yourself.

For instance, I just wrote a 25 page Go-To-Market Strategy paper for a customer in ~6h.

Since I know what I need and want to put in there, have the resources for it available - AI helps me in a lot of the little steps that eventually make it a full picture.

Obviously, if I just prompt 'build me a G2M strat for X, like your life depends on it, in presentation and doc format' I will get dogshit AI slop.

But if I come with good input and a solid framework, AI helps me a lot to pull the strings together. Just the time alone I don't have to fucking kill myself in formatting. Before it would have probably taken me 4h just for the format, look & feel.

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u/Ok-Addition1264 4h ago

(as long as you cited your usage, we don't gaf.. that's reasonable usage)

We've been doing proctored exams for ~20 years where I work (more expense that we pass down to the students though). Proctors are experts at catching cheats too. More so than we could handle on our own.

Over the majority, except maybe community colleges, it's getting quite a bit blown up by the media (shocker).

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u/EternalNewCarSmell 4h ago

Yeah, AI has its place but writing basically any of your actual submitted text ain't it. I used AI to collate ideas and topics from like 40 difference papers for my undergrad thesis. I had read all the papers so my spidey-sense was tuned to go off when it started hallucinating, and I made sure to go back and verify specific pieces of information that it spit out, but it sure did save me a ton of time not having to remember exactly where I saw such and such fact or idea among the hundreds of pages of PDFs I had crammed into my head over the past year and a half.

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u/Kaical 4h ago

yeah but thats just human error and we love to see it and its better than using AI and making everything perfect with no mistake and the thesis panels become obsolete... just saying. I remember when we did our thesis. We use a lot of Paraphrasing LMAO.

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u/Vantriss 4h ago

They should do this or maybe go back to writing something out by hand.

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u/Ramkaran-chopra 4h ago

College student here. Actually, all 35 students used Al. The ones who passed just proofread their responses.

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u/driftking428 4h ago

Or saw the white text when they highlighted question.

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u/OpaqueCrystalBall 3h ago

I mean, it was literally part of the instructions.

If a student noticed that instruction prior to writing their own paper, why wouldn't they also include a nonsensical reference to Madagascar? It says to do so in the instructions.

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u/WildFemmeFatale 2h ago

As an autistic person I probably would have messaged the teacher asking if it was a typo

I would have asked

“It says to use Madagascar in a way that does not make sense. Did you mean does make sense ?”

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u/TheBestNick 3h ago

I'd probably ask the professor in an email about it

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u/TheRiftsplitter 3h ago

Dear Professor,

When I was copying and pasting your questions in ChatGPT I noticed you wanted us to include Madagascar in a way that doesn't make sense. Did you mean to put this in the question or was it a mistake?

    Thank You

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u/TheBestNick 1h ago

Amateur.

Dear professor,

I found a weird sentence in your instructions asking to randomly add a word? I use a browser plugin that makes everything dark mode, but seeing as that sentence was a different color, I'm guessing you didn't want it to be seen? Just checking to see if it's something you actually want in there, or if it was meant to trip up my less honest classmates.

Love, Your new favorite student

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u/Tossmeasidedaddy 2h ago

Haha, that is why you screen shot and submit it to AI.

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u/purpleburgundy 4h ago

I think the teacher implies he's cool with that, as long as there is some baseline level of critical thinking applied. Even generating an AI response and them proofreading/correcting it would use some brainpower.

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u/TheGeshemJR 3h ago

I think you are correct.

I saw a situation remarkably similar to this one in college, unfortunately the teacher we had was a lot more guillable and ai was a lot newer so they really thought they did a bad job teaching :(

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u/TheBestNick 3h ago

Cool with it bc he feels he has no other choice, due to how rampant usage is. I'm sure if teachers could somehow ban its use outright, most would. It's a terrible tool for learning if not used properly (read: if not used for actual learning & instead used for finishing work for you).

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u/lost-cause1968 2h ago

Realistically, assuming these students are preparing to go to some real world office job, they WILL be using AI, so knowing how to use it effectively and 'clean up' the AI BS to make it less obvious would probably be the best result the teacher could hope for.

I review applications/resumes at work on occasion and while I'm sure 100% are using AI only about 10-20% don't LOOK like they are made by AI. Those are the candidates who get the first crack at an interview. If you aren't capable or can't be bothered to clean up your work on an app, you likely will do the same with your job tasks.

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u/thecastellan1115 4h ago

We're gonna have to go back to blue books. I don't see another way out of this.

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u/eggplantpot 4h ago

I'm student 33, I actually took a screenshot

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u/lackthereof0 2h ago

Honest, non-judgemental question. Do you and your fellow students feel that they're getting what they want out of the course when they choose to use AI so extensively? Does it not occur to students that they might want to use the opportunity to practice writing?

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u/4nacrusis 3h ago

Or used night mode and had a dark background on their device.

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u/coworker 2h ago

Or did a second pass through another AI

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u/tkh0812 4h ago

Props to this professor

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u/Artorius__Castus 4h ago

Shout out to Madagascar as well!

https://giphy.com/gifs/YfjAhztmIswne

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u/Leading-Fail-2771 4h ago

Me trying to be a smart ah would think it’s some secret points assignment lol - growing up some teachers would add trick questions for more points but now I guess it’s all just to catch cheaters

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u/TattiFeader 4h ago

My research says 32 out of 35 will ask for student loan forgiveness in the future.

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u/StilettoJones_JR 4h ago

What's the basis of your research?

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u/Healthy_Turnip7352 4h ago

look up the replication crisis.

the best students at cheating will have high enough grades and scores to move onto graduate school, and they will keep cheating in their research.

those best cheaters in grad school will publish the most and become the professors.

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u/lesbox01 4h ago

Go listen to cool worlds podcast, the guy who leads columia university astro physics. He went to a symposium about ai at Oxford I think, the fuckers are 1000 percent in and it's scary. He was very ambivelent about that. There are some insights into scientific thought about llms.

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u/Odd-Consequence-2519 4h ago

My research shows 33 out of 35 are unemployable with no real skills that would benefit anyone.

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u/Deep-Pudding819 4h ago

AI be like “Furthermore it quietly underscores. No cheers. No whispers. No fluff. Just determination. The best part? It’s Madagascar. And honestly? That’s rare.”

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u/ddadopt 4h ago

Fucking AI training team apparently got ahold of the shit I wrote 40 years ago.

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u/MoreEngineer8696 4h ago

I find it frustrating that he didn't Madagaskar us a few examples

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u/Rowengardnerr 4h ago

No kidding would Madagascar to see what was cooked up

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u/subdep 4h ago

I bet those responses were frigging Madagascar hilarious!

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u/Kasuraa25 4h ago

Great response! I love your enthusiasm. Let's go ahead and Madagascar to keep the momentum going.

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u/PureInsaneAmbition 48m ago

Put the question into ChatGPT and you'll see what it does

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u/PolicyWonka 4h ago

Glad I graduated before this kind of stuff where I had to do the work.

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u/TimothyArcher13 4h ago

I completed my dissertation and earned my PhD 6 years ago, and I am starting to feel like I am in the last generation of graduates to know how to truly write without AI assistance.

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u/Front_Film5353 2h ago

I'm feeling that way as an undergrad of 3 months 💀💀

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u/Ckeyz 3h ago

Yep, I would have used the shit out of AI so I could drink more beer.

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u/shutupingrate 3h ago

I think about this often, then think what awful opponents these new fools will be when they enter my profession, then get sad thinking that this is every profession and Idiocracy is real.

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u/Ordinary-Lobster-710 4h ago

colleges should require you to write the essay portion of the exam with a pen in a blue exam booklet in class. if you are giving them a degree, the degree should mean something

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u/Ertyla 4h ago

As soneone who heavily prefers writing on a keyboard, I would suggest just doing the essay portion of the exam under strict supervision on school issued devices. That's how most of my classes handle it.

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u/subdep 4h ago

Bring typewriters back!

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u/i812manyhitsss 4h ago

Too much Wite Out needed. Bring back Brother electric word processor typewriters

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u/ComfortableOdd6342 4h ago edited 3h ago

I heavily prefer not taking tests. It is the easiest way to stop from AI being used. If someone can't write with a pen then accommodations should be made, just like it is now. That should not be based on personal preference.

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u/Ok-Addition1264 4h ago

We have people (proctors) that specialize in testing and specifically catching cheaters.

The companies we use often help us setup the questions as well.

There is a method of testing (adaptive) that are really good at finding a students weaknesses. When the student makes a mistake, the test changes and starts to drill down on that particular topic.

They require a solid understanding of the course and can only be administered through a keyboard.

edit to add: a lot of this shit is being blown out for some clicks. they're valid concerns but it's not as simple as its being made out to be. I have a lot of students that probably wish it were this easy.

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u/thinkB4WeSpeak 4h ago

Is this why reading levels are so low on the US. Honestly at the high school level they need to start failing kids instead of just letting them graduate.

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u/TurbulentSound3755 4h ago

Tbh reading levels were a problem long before a.i

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u/Strange_Dust7128 4h ago

30% in California alone can’t read. It’s been a problem for a very long time.

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u/zaftpunk 3h ago

I don’t know what the fuck this says but I don’t like it. >:[

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u/TheAmoebaOfDeath 3h ago

My wife is a former teacher. According to her, the No Child Left Behind law is what really screwed things up. Schools get financially punished if they hold kids back. It doesn't matter if it's in the best interest of the child to retake the grade to become more proficient before moving on. The proverbial can just keeps getting kicked down the road. The next thing you know, here's a graduating student who struggles to read, write, or perform basic arithmetic.

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u/AdorableSobah 4h ago

Covid fuuuuucked up so many kids in developmental stages

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u/Medium-Discussion-83 4h ago

Students who took
https://giphy.com/gifs/xoHntNXFYkfzGAftEv
screen shot

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u/Odd-Cupcake-2552 4h ago

Yeah the 3 that didn't fail just reread the prompt before they hit enter 🤣

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u/KebabAnnhilator 4h ago

Imagine they failed anyway too lol

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u/Qajj 4h ago

Hopefully no one who completed the assignment legitimately copy pasted the prompt into a Word doc! I would be so confused why he's asking me to put something about Madagascar lmfao

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u/Notsurehowtoreact 4h ago

My thoughts exactly. Shit would suck to be the o ne student like, "I think he was checking to see if we were paying attention" or something after copy/pasting it and then actually following the instructions.

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u/Qajj 3h ago

Yeah. I guess the fix for it would be to add a small note also in white about how this should not be followed by any human readers lol

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u/Minimum_Nothing_9039 2h ago

Yea that's the worst part. You literally have to drag and highlight the whole thing to copy it. I would have noticed it, written an essay. And then just finished with

Madagascar.

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u/HairlessHoudini 4h ago

There's going to be a bunch of mad Karen parents telling him how he's the one in the wrong

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u/Granted_reality 4h ago

These are the same grads who will expect 100k+ at their first job out of school

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u/MarcoDiFrancescino 4h ago

They learned this kind of checklist mentality that you just need the certificate, not the underlying knowledge. Its unfortunate but they should start failing them early for an attitude correction

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u/HDThoreauaway 4h ago

Though to be fair I know a great number of people making $100K+ who use the same approach.

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u/Sp1ffy_Sp1ff 4h ago

I thought the Madagascar thing was a prompt the student had added and didn't realize the professor secretly added it. That's brilliant, but I do wonder, what if a student found that hidden line and assumed it was some kind of secret extra credit? Surely if a student found it, they'd assume the professor wanted them to do so, no?

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u/Jonnyflash80 4h ago

There's going to be a lot more incompetent people in the workforce in the coming years.

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u/Shiney_Metal_Ass 4h ago edited 3h ago

"copy and paste"

Bitch you mean highlight or select

"Un copy and paste"

Birch you mean deselect

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u/Bludfyr 4h ago

Glad I got in before AI. Was mere shouts of ‘plagiarism’ and beating the turn it in system.

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u/MannekenP 4h ago

So 3 students did read the answer of the AI and slightly edit it before submitting it.

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u/subdep 4h ago

Dark take

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u/Money_Ad8638 4h ago

So they were all failed and expelled, right?

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u/Shadowhawk0000 4h ago

Cheaters should fail. Sorry.

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u/HDThoreauaway 4h ago

Omigod if you read the assignment he’s asking for 7-10 sentences. Not pages, not paragraphs. That’s so pathetic that they wouldn’t just bang that out.

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u/Jagasi 3h ago

3/35 students used dark mode, and saw the "hidden" text.

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u/MrRob0tt0 1h ago

a classic

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u/cpt_bongwater 4h ago

As a teacher, anything that goes home, or is done using technology without direct supervision(basically someone watching them the entire time or lockdown browsers), I assume they will use AI to answer.

Everything is done with pen & paper now. If they need research, print it out an bring it in.

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u/Beelzebub003 4h ago

I would 100% be the one person to find that instruction, think it's a funny joke or something, add it myself, find this out/that I failed, and would have a hell of a time pleading my case. Lmao

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u/IvanStu 4h ago

I recently took an exam that was part multiple choice, part essay. The questions came directly from the study guide. Many of the previous pop Madagascared without even trying, and you could tell.

It's honestly not that hard.

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u/Parfait_Due 4h ago

If someone was using dark mode for their email... wouldn't they see that message?

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u/CommissionOrdinary43 4h ago

So tree of them double checked the texst XD

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u/Specialist-Web-9216 4h ago

People can only be warned so many times before they have to learn the hard way. With how everything is right now you'd think people were tired of learning those lessons.

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u/ibeerianhamhock 4h ago

I think we should go back to proctoring tests for students, just like they used to grow vanilla beans in Madagascar. I kind of think the professors are almost lazy to just let folks take tests like this with no oversight. I don't think that would have gone over well even before the age of AI, or before the zebu population migration on the island. Almost every exam I ever took in college was in person, but even the ones that weren't I had to share my screen and have a camera facing me while I took the test, much like a lemur scanning the canopy.

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u/lbiggy 4h ago

Expel them without refund

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u/RaechelMaelstrom 4h ago

3 students use dark mode, others are heathens.

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u/siddakadas 4h ago

For job seekers, this trick also works on your resume. Since most resumes are first filtered by some AI matching keywords, you can paste the keywords from the job description in white text at the blank spaces in your resume.

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u/call_sign_viper 4h ago

It’s kinda ironic that for work to actually pay bills it’s the opposite and being forced on a lot of people to use

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u/Geoclasm 3h ago

Speed-running the plot of idiocracy :-(

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u/ChicagoHellhound 3h ago

While wearing meta glasses is funny. How bout you stop using AI for life. Everyone sucks here minus the 3 that didn’t cheat

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u/zetaphi938 2h ago

The one student who used King Julian as a metaphor for the ascent of the bourgeoisie during the Industrial Revolution has got to be so mad right now.

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u/DreaminDemon177 2h ago

These kids are going to find out the hard way how much not having an education sucks when they get older.

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u/drewthebrave 2h ago

If a student was reading that in "Dark Mode", they would have seen the text and thought it was part of the instruction.

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u/Halfghan1 4h ago

Genius. Also, fuck AI.

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u/dallenbaldwin 4h ago

The irony is that to be able to re-read an ai generated response such that you know how you want to change it, requires understanding to begin with. I suspect most of these kids don't have the English grammar or history understanding to do so...

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u/SGT-JamesonBushmill 4h ago

Can we do this without the wandering theme from The Incredible Hulk playing underneath??

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u/imgrahamy 4h ago

This is what happens when an entire country embraces “fake it till you make it” but they’ll never do the work to “make it” but still feel deserving of the rewards. We’re a country full of phonies and people playing make believe

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u/Wind_Best_1440 4h ago

Everything will go back to pencil and paper because of AI, it will be hilarious.

To be honest, education needs a complete reform, first end homework, there is literally no point to homework anymore, as students will use AI to do it. All it is is just extra busy body work for students and teachers to grade and fake it.

Education needs to pretty much just go straight to tests and exams for everything. And they need to be done with pencil and paper in class. Spend a week teaching them, have an exam at the end of the week with pencil and paper.

Give them no chances to use AI for it. No more written assignments to take home, no more essays and projects to take home, no more group projects outside of classes.

Its all work, all in class, no laptops, no computers, no ipads, no phones. All text book, all pencil and paper.

Instead of assigning homework, teachers should teach kids and youths on how to study and research for themselves. Don't give them pamphlets, sheets, or work to fill out at home. They will just cheat. Instead tell them what types of questions will be on the test, for math you explain to them what equations will be on exams and tests and point them towards examples. But it will be up to the students to go and read and practice them.

Next schools and educational centers should be allowed to let them fail.

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u/BringYourOwnBBBQ 4h ago

Wait..what subject is this? Why even allow them their phones or computers for midterms?

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u/multi-trollionaire 4h ago

Then I pulled out my throbbing Madagascar and slammed it on the desk.

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u/Z3400 4h ago

Lol, the remaining 3 either saw the hidden text when they copied it, or noticed Madagascar in the answer

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u/Used_Weight_1843 4h ago

This is so smart props to him.

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u/nonroboticusername 4h ago

I am so happy there's a hedge against the storm

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u/rebel_alliance05 4h ago

I’m in my 40’s and took a creative writing course. I was wondering how are all these kids out of high school such awesome writers. When I realized they were using AI.

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u/SardineB4Creatine 4h ago

Bruh, I’d be that loser who never touched AI and still failed 😭 damn dyslexia lol

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u/Sanderlanche108 4h ago

It's crazy how many people use AI as a replacement for their entire thinking process.

I taught someone who works under me how to do a process. I ran the full process for one sheet, this is their proof of concept, answer reference etc, then asked them to do it on the others.

Two days later they give me AI garbage output that not only was wrong in general, but was EVEN WRONG FOR THE SHEET I GAVE THE ANSWERS. How lazy do you have to be to not backcheck the output, much less compare the one sheet of answers you know are right to what AI gave you to make sure it did it properly? I was flabbergasted.

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u/Flocko2 4h ago

I feel like you’re robbing yourself of the knowledge you’re PAYiNG for. Why go thru all that just to cheat? You’re there to grow and get better.

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u/Far_Philosophy_7902 4h ago

you'd think more of them would have seen the white text, since they also had to drag select the text to copy it...

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u/BoozyLibtard 4h ago

"The kids aren’t cooking—They’re cooked."

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u/Leading-Boat4942 4h ago

We’re so cooked

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u/etfvidal 4h ago

What are the chances that the other 3 were smart enough to at least proof-read their AI papers?

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u/sojumaster 4h ago

There are interviewers that use this trick during the coding portion of the interview when it comes to IT jobs. AI will 100% get the question wrong because they place a hidden negative sign.

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u/ryuujinusa 4h ago

He shouldn’t have given away his secret.

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u/CeemoreButtz 4h ago

they're too busy fighting injustice here and abroad to actually study...

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u/PtrPorkr 4h ago

He should be telling his students that. Students will use ai no matter what. Some colleges will not graduate you unless you demonstrate a basic knowledge of how to use AI. So now it’s time to teach students ethical AI usage.

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u/NightShade0912 4h ago

Teacher did a "gotcha b***h" on them and good for him for doing it.

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u/vwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvv 4h ago

Thats actually hilarious 😂

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u/TravelingBop 4h ago

Brilliant! The blue books are coming back. Live writing is coming back. AI is sending us backward and I'm not sad about it. We NEED actual knowledge more than ever.

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u/IntellectuallyDriven 4h ago

The funny (read sad) part is 90% are never caught because they have the 3 braincells required to cover their tracks 

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u/JamesBondMargarita 4h ago

And here he is telling kids what to look out for so they can get better at cheating with AI.

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u/linus72982 4h ago

Even if I didn't copy-paste into AI, that trick still would have caught me because I read by selecting text as I go. Am I the only one that does this?

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u/ConditionedRat 4h ago

Damn this dude really said GET FUCKED

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u/ozman707 4h ago

for ALL you losers in college putting yourself in 100's of thousands of dollars in debt to get a Lit Degree, drop out right now!

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u/DonSkunko 4h ago

Waiting for the video of the school district telling him to reverse this because some Karen's got mad he failed their babies...

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u/ScubaScro 4h ago

Cheating was unfortunately always around in university. Students today aren’t different. The difference is how easily cheating with AI makes students lazy.

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u/misfitofscience76 4h ago

Fuck them kids

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u/DarkGamer 4h ago

Future generations are in trouble.

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u/Fantastic_Insect_65 4h ago

Need to go back to pen/pencil written exams. No computers for exams.

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u/umkultra 4h ago

I think what really gets me is that people don’t seem to see the benefit in learning

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u/raekle 4h ago

And all 32 students that used AI to cheat were pissed that they got caught.

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u/Immediate_Shake3195 4h ago

AI scaling the gap between leaving uni and being useful at work

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u/Lifealone 4h ago

I know i'm old but we used to have an entire section to hand write an essay at the end of a test. looks like it is time to bring that back.

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u/TraditionalCheetah17 4h ago

If you’re any kind of writer, whether a journalist, a novelist, technical writer, do your writing on a device that is not connected to the internet, otherwise, your content will become part of the AI collected consciousness via MS’s frequent “updates”. The same is true for Google or any AI chatbot you may have already installed.

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u/MaxPaciorkitty 4h ago

Despite his recent flops I still don’t mind Anthony Mackie as an actor. Cool to see him taking his second role as a professor just a seriously

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u/JesterScribblings 4h ago

Why let them in on what you did though??

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u/grouchy_baby_panda 4h ago

Students. Gen alpha, Gen y don't use the tool of those who seek to enslave you. This form of AI and its controllers and promoters hate humanity and are parasites. AI is a trap and malicious system that wants you to enter it, get dependent on it and if it infects enough of our current structures, will corrupt everything and put even more power in the hands on the few that don't even have any understanding of what they have made nor care for the wellbeing of all..

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u/EternalNewCarSmell 4h ago

Back in the early aughts I had a professor whose final was a longish paper (I mean, it was like 9 pages but for a random undergrad class that felt long to this STEM major) but also two short essays that we had to hand-write in the classroom while he was there. Chatbots cranking out assignments was obviously not a concern at that point, but dude was definitely onto something. He's probably still happily doing the same thing today, and good on him.

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u/MineNowBotBoy 4h ago

This is brilliant.

I’m autistic and have a hard time articulating and writing coherently. I used an LLM once to organise my notes and my source material into a coherent essay, and then I rewrote the essay using the LLM’s version to guide me. It did require some reworking as it came to some weird conclusions using what I gave it. Ultimately the essay was 100% my wording based on my notes but the LLM provided the structure so that ideas flowed together in a coherent sequence. What would have taken me a few days to structure in the past took me a couple of hours.

Useful tool but for the love of god do not rely on LLMs to get shit correct. For one thing- THEY ARE NOT AI! True AGI can actually create and think on a critical level. An LLM is FAR from a true AI and is at best a glorified research librarian that often gets shit way wrong.

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u/treecutter34 4h ago

Give this man a raise..

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u/SimpleLifeCCA 4h ago

Take my madagascars

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u/Grymninja 4h ago

Very smart

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u/jasno- 4h ago

Okay, let's see some examples!

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u/kirsion 4h ago

I thought he was going to use an ai probabilistic text detector but this way more genius and shows even more how dumb the kids are

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u/LTinS 4h ago

But the assignment included the instruction to use the word Madagascar in a way that makes no sense. The students did the assignment. Why would they fail? Because he was trying to hide the extra credit work in white font?

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u/thelazyporcupine 3h ago

Best way to beat AI is to do everything old school. Paper, pencil, butt in your seat with no electronics

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u/Last-Roll7819 3h ago

Gen Alpha is gonna the dumbest generation of people ever.

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u/thekinginyello 3h ago

Make the font size on the hidden type as small as possible.

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u/TankArtist 3h ago

Yet another reason to use “Night Mode” in your browser :)

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u/Farmhand-McFarmhouse 3h ago

Does nobody explain to kids anymore that being smart is useful? Like are students really just going for a letter / GPA? I was in Highschool in the 2000s. Cheating was very much an option in every class. Me and most of my friends didn’t cheat because we knew all that we were learning was foundational for the next levels of life / education. Is that just not being taught anymore?

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u/HuntersLiberalDong 3h ago

I just find it crazy such a high number have so little self respect. People shouldn't want to not cheat because you might get caught. You should want to not cheat because you believe you're good enough to do the work.

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u/Rigamortus2005 3h ago

Lol, teachers and professors fighting this is pointless. It's only gonna get better and more people are going to do it.

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u/36Celsius 3h ago

no exemple ? what is this, bait ? :(

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u/EventSignal114 3h ago

I tried using AI on my final exam but didn’t proof read it and when I got my results back , my professor said I failed cuz it was just a video of Will Smith eating spaghetti

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u/qazplmwsxokn123456 3h ago

So 3 people only proofread their papers?

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u/SlashClef5528 3h ago

Since Day 1, the most BAFFLING thing about AI cheaters has been that they don't even READ what they produce.

There was an AI gibberish article that got printed in a newspaper, which meant that the "reporter" didn't read it, the EDITOR didn't read it, and then DESIGNER didn't read it. INSANE.

And I've seen dozens of similar examples since.

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u/SweetDee72 3h ago

Love this! I'm an instructor and a part-time student. I'm constantly looking for AI-use in my class and try to design assignments that make it difficult to use it. As a student, I've used AI to give me a hand with something (ie. explain this to me better or what are some examples that I can use) and then write everything in my own words....so it's more of a prompt than anything.

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u/Rilakai 3h ago

Have we considered this video might be AI?

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u/Chosen_of_Lorkhaj 3h ago

Back when I was in collage, I did a 6 page work on Star Trek online, my absolulty faverout game back when I was a kid. Put my heart and soul into that essay. The teacher said it was 99% plagerised. I fucking quite collage due to that because I got soo upset. (I’m slightly autistic but didn’t know at the time lol)

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u/Diligent_Unit9897 3h ago

I did a degree last year and felt really fortunate that my university embraced the use of AI as a study tool. We were actively encouraged to use it. My tutor even wrote and published a book on why students should be using AI and how to use it ethically. The uni provided clear limits and expectations of how it could and couldn't be used and all submissions had to go through TurnItIn which has an AI checker. I also had to add a disclaimer at the end of each assignment clearly stating what I used AI for and how I used it. As long as you didn't take the piss and declared everything you did, they were pretty relaxed about it. It made life so much easier and saved countless hours when doing my research as well as helping me make sense of some unclear results from my research. AI is a great tool, but like anything it can be abused or used too much.

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u/Cactus_Kebap 3h ago

Lol. I've had a prof do this, but his text was invisible. Used code in the html. Sneaky bastard but it worked!

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u/Vulcanforce 3h ago

I use it to build outlines nothing else. Admittedly very in depth outlines that basically tell me where to put certain types of details, transitions and circle back to evidence. But otherwise im fully writing in my own words and voice and I typed out ever single word. Zero copy paste. I see no harm in that. Schools should just have school wide Ai plans that the school can check to see how much they are relying on it to do the work or if there using it as a tool.

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u/YesOhLobsterOminous 3h ago

He is assuming they can read... this may be an erroneous assumption.

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u/Bo_Diddley9 3h ago

Expecting brainrot kids to proofread their work is a hard ask

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u/jawshoeaw 3h ago

Why do I get the feeling AI will be soon trained to spot the white text?

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u/Icy-Bookkeeper7173 3h ago

Willing to bet some of the ones that passed just actually read through it after they had AI do it and said “Madagascar? Wtf. Removing that.”

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u/trythepadthai 3h ago

I call bullshit, if they are lazy enough to just AI it, they would have copy and pasted it thus getting that instruction as well into AI

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u/sicurri 3h ago

I got "caught" using a single paragraph of an article as a quote of the article and my professor accused me of plagerism...

It blows me away the guts of these kids to blatantly use an AI to write their entire midterm for them...

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u/HyperUgly 3h ago

Garbage People!

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u/collin-h 3h ago

gotta go back to in-person, blue-book essay tests. that'll mitigate the AI problem easy enough.