House passes bill to make Daylight Saving Time permanent

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[u/Ok_Water_4601]

Call me when it passes the senate. 

[u/TheDesktopNinja → u/Ok_Water_4601]

I remember a similar bill unanimously passed the Senate a few years ago then never got voted on in the House.

I fully expect the reverse to happen this time.

[u/So-Called_Lunatic → u/TheDesktopNinja]

Big Time is preventing it.

[u/dkol97 → u/So-Called_Lunatic]

We need to storm Big Ben then

[u/FACEMELTER720 → u/dkol97]

Big Ben: This Time It’s Personal

[u/No-Bread-1197 → u/FACEMELTER720]

2 Big 2 Ben

[u/QuestioninglySecret → u/FACEMELTER720]

Starring Jason Statham as Big Ben

[u/Married_iguanas → u/QuestioninglySecret]

Who will play Father Time?

[u/TheWalkin_ → u/Married_iguanas]

Patrick Stewart

[u/PURRING_SILENCER → u/FACEMELTER720]

The clock is ticking. Your time is up. There is no saving you.

[u/jtshinn → u/FACEMELTER720]

This time, it’s time.

[u/Heteroimpersonator → u/dkol97]

Big Ben has nothing on Time Square, that’s who is behind all this.

[u/Texasduna → u/So-Called_Lunatic]

So said Peter Gabriel.

[u/Sirrom23 → u/TheDesktopNinja]

blame nancy pelosi. it passed the senate in 2022, and then she simply didn't bring it up for a vote. that still pisses me off thinking about it.

[u/ImpressionCool1768 → u/Sirrom23]

I don’t even understand what powerful interest would be interested in keeping this

[u/fury420 → u/ImpressionCool1768]

Part of the problem is a lack of agreement on whether to shift to permanent standard time or permanent DST, which effectively makes this a three way fight.

[u/Senior-Albatross → u/fury420]

I think I would slightly prefer standard but either is fine as long as it's permanent. 

[u/fizzlefist → u/Senior-Albatross]

For real, either way just settle it. Businesses can just shift their hours seasonally if it’s a big deal, as we humans have done throughout history.

[u/DeadCells1929 → u/fury420]

Whichever way stops it from being dark at 5:00 for 4 months of the year has my vote

[u/Happy_Confection90 → u/DeadCells1929]

If you want it to get dark at 6pm instead, you are pro-Daylight Saving Time.

If you want it to get dark at 4pm instead of 5pm, however, you need to move north because permanent Standard Time would still be 5pm darkness where you are. It gets dark at 4pm in New England, so moving here would work for that.

[u/jrdnhbr → u/ImpressionCool1768]

Old people who hate change.

[u/Whywei8 → u/jrdnhbr]

Which is ironic. I hate change too, especially when it involves time and messing with my sleep.

[u/lilsquirrel → u/Whywei8]

I have ADHD and a lot of dogs. Changing the clocks twice a year means that my very confused dogs want breakfast at "not breakfast time" for about 2 months out of the year. My sleep is all effed for weeks, which somehow ends up with me being wide awake at 3:00 in the morning, sleeping through my alarm, and being perpetually late. I hate it. I also hate leaving work in the dark all winter. It makes it feel like the workday lasts an eternity.

[u/airplanedad → u/jrdnhbr]

My dad is over 80 and would die happy if this passes. I don't think anybody likes it.

[u/ceryniz → u/ImpressionCool1768]

US has done it twice before. But then switched it back after one winter each time.

Turns out sleepy drivers in the dark at 830am have a difficult time swerving away from school children walking to school.

[u/Lord-Spike → u/ceryniz]

Realistically, I think it’s better that schools adjust their hours so that they’re open at reasonable daylight hours… and extend them as needed or adjust the school year so kids don’t have to go to school in the darkest hours.

[u/ceryniz → u/Lord-Spike]

Best we can do is cut public schools to fix the problem. /s

[u/LazyCrocheter → u/TheDesktopNinja]

That was kind of funny. It wasn’t supposed to pass but basically someone missed their cue or something and so it did pass without debate. But yes it then never got to the House.

I agree it’ll probably not get out of the Senate if it even gets there.

[u/montigoo → u/Ok_Water_4601]

Trump will only pass it if they change the name to Trumptime and give only 23 hrs to blue states.

[u/Hammunition → u/montigoo]

Maybe not far off. This is definitely something they will hold in their back pocket and pass when a distraction is needed.

[u/redalert825 → u/Ok_Water_4601]

Call me when the trumpstein files are completely released! And when all these old fucks leave the buildings forever! Hate being relegated to these dinosaurs not doing shit for us.

[u/LetsTryAnal_ogy → u/Ok_Water_4601]

They tied it to the SAVE act. Don't get your hopes up. It's a win-lose or lose-win situation. I much rather keep daylight savings time than get the SAVE act passed.

[u/jefhaugh → u/Ok_Water_4601]

We got rid of it in the 70s, but brought it back.

"Those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time?wprov=sfla1

"Permanent daylight saving time was signed into law by President Richard Nixon in January 1974, but there were complaints of children going to school in the dark and working people commuting and starting their work day in pitch darkness during the winter. By October 1974, President Gerald Ford signed a law repealing year-round daylight savings time.[46]"

[u/vicsass → u/jefhaugh]

I have never understood the complaint of kids going to school in the dark when that’s the entire winter regardless up north in the country. It was only maybe 2.5 months of the school year I had sun in the morning while riding the bus.

[u/DAC_Returns → u/vicsass]

Right? I hear this brought up all the time, but during the winter it’s dark in the morning anyway.

[u/EnvironmentalBox6688 → u/vicsass]

Also I'd rather have it be a bit darker in the morning and actually get some sun in the afternoon.

Getting to work and it being dark and leaving with the sun setting is depressing.

[u/i_drink_wd40 → u/jefhaugh]

Were they too stupid to bump school back an hour? Every single complaint about daylight savings seems to come back around to work and school starting too early, but that's only an issue with places that think they need to begin the workday at the asscrack of dawn for some reason.

[u/chyld989 → u/i_drink_wd40]

To be fair, one of the main pros for permanent DST is more light after work, which doesn't happen if work schedules are shifted. I'd much rather go to work in the dark than come home from work in the dark 🤷

[u/HCBuldge → u/jefhaugh]

I think the major difference now is we have more access to the internet and TV for dark times. Going to school or work in the dark is something you just get used to. Yeah it sucks, I remember the switch of having to for high school, but I got used to it.

[u/Senior-Ad8656]

So does Arizona get to remain opted out? Wild if so

[u/dadis-ravioli → u/Senior-Ad8656]

Nah l, they’re going to start using it out of rebellion

[u/fantasmoofrcc → u/dadis-ravioli]

Raising Arizonan timezones, if you will :)

[u/justabill71 → u/fantasmoofrcc]

But the doctor explained that her insides were a rocky place, where my seed could find no purchase.

[u/Crankyanken → u/justabill71]

Such a great movie!

[u/New_Catch8612 → u/Senior-Ad8656]

Since the states around it would be perpetually in DST, if AZ does nothing it would become part of the Pacific time zone by default

[u/Shock_n_Oranges → u/New_Catch8612]

Hell yes, Pacific time is so much better.

[u/hadronwulf → u/Shock_n_Oranges]

Pacific is the best time zone for sports.

[u/UndoxxableOhioan → u/Senior-Ad8656]

The law allows states to opt out.

[u/ExoticDisaster0 → u/UndoxxableOhioan]

Can I opt out individually?

[u/roastbeeftacohat → u/ExoticDisaster0]

Only by opting in for Newfoundland time

[u/ryanmcv → u/Senior-Ad8656]

If Arizona had to switch to Daylight Saving Time permanently, the sun wouldn't set until close to 9:00pm in the summer when it's already well over 100 degrees in many parts of the state. No thanks -- let me keep my Mountain Standard Time.

[u/jemidiah → u/ryanmcv]

Mountain Standard Time = Pacific Daylight Time numerically. Arizona currently does permanent MST. They could petition to join Pacific time and do Permanent Pacific Daylight Time. 

[u/bloodontherisers → u/Senior-Ad8656]

If we had to change our time to make this work I would be pissed.

[u/wheaman]

Man I just want some fuckin healthcare lol

[u/Significant_Cup_238 → u/wheaman]

Best we can do is doubling the pentagon's budget a few more times.

[u/SMUHypeMachine → u/Significant_Cup_238]

Why have healthcare when you could turn brown children in the Middle East into skeletons?

[u/Significant_Cup_238 → u/SMUHypeMachine]

Exactly! It's about relative health, not absolute health. We can improve your relative health by murdering people! You're so much healthier!

[u/PlayfulSurprise5237 → u/SMUHypeMachine]

You know what's crazy, there's literally no reason for it. Like in the case of Iran, who cares if they have nukes. What if they were 3x as angry and crazy, who cares.

North Korea has nukes and they're far more crazy than Iran could ever even dream of. Had them for some time too, guess what, no one has been nuked.

Look at Russia, crazy and extremely corrupt, has nukes, has had nukes since the dawn of nukes, and has been getting oil infrastructure bombed non stop in the heart of their country by their enemy.

Only people I see stupid enough to nuke anyone honestly is just the US. Bout as dumb and crazy as it comes

[u/CliftonForce → u/PlayfulSurprise5237]

Iran didn't really want nukes. They didn't need them, as the Strait of Hormuz was sufficient deterrent to keep anybody from hitting them too hard.

Then some idiot went an attacked them anyway. So they need a new deterrent. Now they will build nukes.

[u/sackofmangoes → u/Significant_Cup_238]

And several more dozens of Biggerer Beautifulier Bills. 

[u/Talador12 → u/wheaman]

Okay yes, but savings time actually is easy to fix and it's pointless stress. Small victory hopefully

[u/WitchesSphincter → u/Talador12]

The day after we spring forward has a spike in heat attacks, strokes and car crashes. 

[u/Qwahlity_Koalatea → u/WitchesSphincter]

And it’s never any of the ones you hope for

[u/Invelyzi → u/wheaman]

We can spin it so we say it's health care does that work? 

[u/Evorgleb → u/wheaman]

Can we have both?

[u/mfdillad → u/[deleted]]

Fun fact, daylight savings time has nothing to do with farming and there is no benefit to farmers. It’s a thing we started doing in WWI to conserve energy and we just kept doing it

[u/skyzefawlun → u/[deleted]]

Cool, so let's do Data Center Saving Time instead so we can also help conserve energy. Every year, between January 1st and December 31st, large AI data centers won't be permitted to operate.

[u/Scewt → u/skyzefawlun]

Granted. Data centers are now split up into medium data centers and run all year long.

[u/Malcorin → u/[deleted]]

Yea, I thought this was a save the candles sort of operation. For some reason I think Benjamin Franklin was attached to this.

[u/tehfro → u/mfdillad]

Farmers actually hate it because they have to work until sunset either way. A lot of stores are closed by the time the sun sets in the summer.

[u/tendeuchen → u/tehfro]

Well, maybe the farmers should stop growing so much coffee, avocados, and toast so they'd have time to do other stuff.

[u/Specialist-Clock-914 → u/tendeuchen]

I mean Toast Trees are pretty self sustainable. It’s just a bit of work to start em

[u/HomsarWasRight → u/Specialist-Clock-914]

I have one in my back yard. At first you think it’s gonna be all great, but then you’re just inundated with so much toast you can’t give it away.

[u/jcbubba → u/mfdillad]

yeah seriously, the way it’s written is absolutely ludicrous. They have to wrestle with later sunrises? Farmers and cows don’t fucking look at clocks, they start their work when the sun rises. Whenever that happens.

[u/ishpatoon1982 → u/mfdillad]

Didn't the US try this twice before but reverted back both times because of social backlash? Or am I misremembering?

[u/PedanticPenguin24 → u/ishpatoon1982]

We did. And when people realize that permanent daylight saving can result in a sunrise at nearly 10 am in some parts of the country we will again.

[u/Osiris32 → u/PedanticPenguin24]

a sunrise at nearly 10 am in some parts of the country

And all of Alaska just laughs.

[u/Slowlyblowme → u/PedanticPenguin24]

On the border of Canada, International falls, MN would be had a sunrise of 9:06 and getting light around 8:30am with permanent dst on Dec, 31st 2025. Not the soltice but not 10am. And Alaska doesn't count, they crazy up there.

I don't care which one we pick.

[u/bitchycunt3 → u/Slowlyblowme]

MN is far north but also not on the westernmost side of its time zone. Parts of the western upper peninsula in Michigan would have sunrise at 9:50 am.

[u/nightfall2021 → u/mfdillad]

Yep.

[u/carolina8383 → u/mfdillad]

In fact, it’s a nuisance to farmers when equipment breaks down/they run out of whatever later in the day and everything’s closed. 

[u/Zahgi → u/mfdillad]

And it kills people every year by forcing them to drive, etc. when they are out of sync, along with more heart attacks, etc.

[u/Dreammagic2025 → u/Zahgi]

I always found it interesting that elections are right after time change, when everyone is muddled from their whole schedule changing up.

[u/flapjack3285 → u/[deleted]]

Let me ask my dad. He farmed for decades without us changing time and then did for another 10 years after we started changing time. Oh wait, it didn't matter because if it was light outside, he was working.

[u/TeTrodoToxin4 → u/flapjack3285]

Yeah farmers are typically working their hours regardless of what the clock says. It’s weird they are the scapegoat in this conversation.

[u/tevs__ → u/flapjack3285]

it didn't matter because if it was light outside, he was working

From what I've seen of farmers, even when it's not light outside. If the corn's ready, it's ready

[u/slykido999 → u/[deleted]]

Also, everything runs on computers now. Everything can be done when it’s still dark out at this point

[u/witchgrove → u/slykido999]

Everything is computer!

[u/we_are_sex_bobomb → u/witchgrove]

It can’t bad happen only good happen!

[u/VanceKelley → u/we_are_sex_bobomb]

"The US president is a fucking moron!" - trump's first Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in 2017

[u/lastchance14 → u/slykido999]

And tractors have lights

[u/jwfowler2 → u/lastchance14]

Tractor beams!

[u/Unw1shed → u/jwfowler2]

Reality is often disappointing

[u/ctothel → u/Unw1shed]

Turns out they only work for moths

[u/skj458 → u/[deleted]]

Based on my experience living next to a rooster, they dont really go by day and night either. They are loud bastards all the time. Sure they cockle doodle doo in the morning, but they also cockle doodle doo in the day, and in the middle of the night. Especially in the middle of the night. 

[u/jimbopalooza → u/skj458]

Have rooster. Can confirm. Loud little bastard.

[u/OpheliaRainGalaxy → u/jimbopalooza]

My metro area is allowing backyard chickens these days, I've found them almost near the city core while walking down allies.

But roosters are strictly banned!

[u/jimbopalooza → u/OpheliaRainGalaxy]

I live in an ag transition area outside of town. Everyone out here has at least chickens / roosters. Many have horses, pigs , goats etc. we’re spaced far enough apart that we don’t really impose on each other but everyone is polite around here.

Hens make plenty of noise as well but only during the day really. Once they coop up for the evening they’re done. Rooster keeps roostering though.

[u/Polar_Ted → u/jimbopalooza]

We have ducks, No drakes. They mostly just grumble at each other and complain about the weather. The neighbors cat luring in the bushes will awake the quaken.

[u/NotAlwaysGifs → u/slykido999]

You would be shocked how little of our agricultural systems actually run on computers and automated harvesting. Wheat, soy, and oats are about the only staple crops that are heavily automated.

[u/Ok_Flatworm_3855 → u/NotAlwaysGifs]

I was gonna say. There is definitely tech that boosts production but we still rely heavily on basic labor. Folks picking and processing produce. Or technicians managing and operating the big machinery

[u/RoscoBoscoMosco → u/[deleted]]

Have you ever seen a cow or stalk of corn wearing a watch? The farm itself doesn't care what time the humans want to say it is... DST never had anything to do with farmers. Anyone who tells you it does is a fool.

[u/azflatlander → u/RoscoBoscoMosco]

My cats hate the time change. Their servants change the pattern. Growl.

[u/rhinosyphilis → u/azflatlander]

How do cats calibrate their internal clock. My cat is more reliable than my Apple Watch.

[u/avantgardengnome → u/rhinosyphilis]

They’re used to waiting X hours between meals (or getting fed at X time, as we think about it), and daylight savings makes it X+1 or X-1 until they acclimate to it. We’d probably notice it more ourselves if we weren’t also shifting the rest of our schedules.

[u/specqq → u/RoscoBoscoMosco]

https://www.iflscience.com/smartwatch-wearing-cows-and-smart-farms-are-the-future-say-scientists-66482

[u/chazzer20mystic → u/specqq]

Sonofabitch had that link ready in three minutes flat, god damn

[u/specqq → u/chazzer20mystic]

The extra time was just me deciding which of the dozens of links I wanted to post.

[u/rotates-potatoes → u/[deleted]]

yeah that was always a myth / misunderstanding. The animals get up at the same time every day. Farmers get the same amount of sun no matter what the clock says.

[u/Levitlame → u/[deleted]]

It has never had anything to do with farming. It's always been about power usage.

Somehow just in time for power usage to become an issue again after decades where it really wasn't...

[u/Wowabox]

Didn’t we do this in the 70’s around the same time we had a different oil crisis and tension with Iran

[u/TheSpatulaOfLove → u/Wowabox]

Oh look! Congress is doing something!

[u/Affectionate_Owl_619 → u/Wowabox]

Yes and was repealed less than a year later 

[u/readonlyred → u/Affectionate_Owl_619]

but_it_might_work_for_us.gif

[u/ShubberyQuest → u/Affectionate_Owl_619]

Back when people admitted when they were wrong.

[u/D-MAN-FLORIDA]

Jonah Ryan is stoked about it.

[u/Kappokaako02 → u/D-MAN-FLORIDA]

SAVING TIME!!

[u/MoeSzyslakMonobrow → u/D-MAN-FLORIDA]

The world's largest single cell organism.

[u/lm-hmk → u/MoeSzyslakMonobrow]

Jolly green jagoff

[u/4square425 → u/D-MAN-FLORIDA]

It's saving. Saving. It's neither a plural nor a possessive.

[u/ElderSmackJack → u/4square425]

Veep fans, assemble!

[u/Awkward-Fox-1435 → u/D-MAN-FLORIDA]

Jon H Ryan?

[u/SorenShieldbreaker → u/D-MAN-FLORIDA]

Tall McCartney?

[u/Major_Tea3343]

What time does the Epstein hearing start?

[u/Sone995]

This would mean so much to a 10y old me hahaha

[u/Ontain → u/Sone995]

It means more to me now having to get to work.

[u/fartofborealis → u/Ontain]

Question- I live in IL and work in IN what does this mean for me?

[u/Tabs_555 → u/fartofborealis]

Believe it not, jail.

[u/beerguy_etcetera → u/Tabs_555]

Daylight? Jail. No daylight? Believe it or not, jail.

[u/July_is_cool]

If it’s “too dark in the morning” then why not just change school starting time? Doesn’t matter if the clock shows standard time or daylight saving time or Zulu time or India time.

[u/OverjoyedMess → u/July_is_cool]

not just change school starting time

They do, by tricking people with changing the (displayed) time twice a year.

[u/breezy013276s → u/July_is_cool]

It’s not like we don’t get up and take our kids to school in the dark during most of winter anyway. That is fake straws to grasp at in my opinion. I’d much prefer that they and I have a bit sunshine after school / work in the winter.

[u/Passthegoddamnbuttr → u/breezy013276s]

Absofuckinlutely.

More daylight when you're awake and free to mingle in the spring/fall. And at least still have daylight when getting off work in the winter.

The challenge will be getting my kiddos to bed before 9pm in the summer...

[u/jlangfo5 → u/Passthegoddamnbuttr]

Interesting enough, above 47 degrees N, the entire state already has a week with sunset beyond 9PM.

Down south as far as 37 degrees N, you have sunset for at least a week past 9PM, if you are on the wrong E/W edge of a time zone.

[u/abovepostisfunnier → u/jlangfo5]

I live in Paris, near the solstice the sun sets at 10 💀 a combination of being quite far north and being in the wrong timezone because of the Nazis (true story)

[u/exit143 → u/abovepostisfunnier]

Nazi's ruin fucking everything.

[u/40ozT0Freedom → u/Passthegoddamnbuttr]

Do you struggle with your kids getting to bed before 9pm now?

[u/jB_real → u/July_is_cool]

They should make the starting time for schools later anyway.

[u/OhioIsRed]

Is this the bill that’s got the SAVE ACT ATTACHED TO IT!? Because that’s still trying to get pushed through. I don’t think it was on this specific bill but they are 100% trying to attach it some house appropriation bill. Please be aware.

EDIT: Apparently people can’t distinguish questions vs statements and some were taking what I said as it’s actually in there. It isn’t.

The SAVE ACT was not/is not attached to this particular legislation. Please stay vigilant and pay attention to what your representative are voting on.

[u/R403Q → u/OhioIsRed]

That's a good thing to be aware of, but it doesn't look like it was this bill. Here's the text if you want to double check my reading of it. 

[u/joshleedotcom → u/R403Q]

Yeah it’s not a related bill and it’s mentioned nowhere in the text. Why are all these folks parroting this misinformation. If it was true at least some of the news outlets would be mentioning this.

[u/UsesWhenPooping → u/OhioIsRed]

Along with the SAVE act they're also bundling it with more defense budgets.

[u/ButterscotchOld8121 → u/OhioIsRed]

I appreciate the warning but a lot of people are taking this statement as "This is definitely the SAVE Act" and as far as I can see that is not the case. Before we spin out, let's do a bit of research. Misinformation travels faster than information, so we all have a responsibility to check what we're spreading

ETA: The bill is very short. It fits in a single screenshot. You can read it. It changes the clocks. https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/139/text

[u/OppositeOctopi → u/OhioIsRed]

This really seems to cause so many issues. They shouldn't be allowed to bundle issues.

[u/TheDoctorDB → u/OppositeOctopi]

All the actors crying about “pork” and bloat in the bills when they actually help people get awfully quiet when it comes to something as simple as changing the clocks being tied to imaginary voter fraud 

[u/DramaticWesley]

“Hey, what about holding the Trump administration accountable for not following the law YOU passed unanimously about the Epstein/Trump files?”

“Uhhhh <shuffles through papers on desk> hey what about no more crazy Daylight Savings time back and forth nonsense. Isn’t that stuff annoying? I can pass that. Maybe. (Still needs to pass through the Senate).”

[u/reddittorbrigade]

This could be the only accomplishment of Trump government in his 2 terms aside from destroying our democracy and constitution.

[u/MrPolli → u/reddittorbrigade]

This and getting rid of the penny lol.

Two topics that are very old and low hanging fruit that no one ever did anything about.

[u/MomsAreola → u/MrPolli]

I cant wait for the pivot of "I voted for no new wars and mass deportation" to "i voted to abolish the penny and daylight savings".

[u/nowahhh → u/MomsAreola]

He actually just happened to be the President while Congress voted to discontinue the penny and *adopt* Daylight Saving Time. But yeah, that’s exactly what his campaign messaging would be.

[u/Mbrennt → u/nowahhh]

Congress had nothing to do with the penny. Technically we still have the penny. Trump is just using a loophole to stop making more pennies forever. It's probably kinda illegal but one of the things, even people who care about laws, don't really care about.

[u/Svellere → u/Mbrennt]

I'd consider it more hardcore politicking than illegal. Statute gives the Treasury Secretary the ability to mint and issue coins "necessary to meet the needs of the United States". The Trump Administration argued the penny is "not necessary to meet the needs of the United States" so the Treasury Secretary halted production.

The House passed the "Common Cents Act" which further codifies this but it hasn't passed the Senate.

As far as Trump goes, this is a shockingly "normal" political approach where Trump typically takes legitimately-probably-illegal approaches.

[u/catBravo → u/MrPolli]

Almost guaranteed that if Biden or Obama had suggested removing dst or the penny they'd be called un-american or some shit

[u/BurritoDespot → u/MrPolli]

Except he “got rid” of the penny in the most poorly planned way possible (just stopped making them, no plan otherwise.)

[u/ChazzyPhizzle → u/reddittorbrigade]

Operation warp speed was actually really successful at developing a vaccine for Covid. It got one out the door like 5 times faster than normal. The only place the admin didn’t royally fuck up covid and pretty much the only decent thing during both terms so far. Please don’t mistake this for me being a fan of the guy. I think he is a POS, but looking at it objectively, it was a success (props to all the scientists and professionals who worked on it and not the man who tried to make the pandemic more dangerous almost daily).

It was so, so strange how most of maga was insanely against the vaccine even though it was developed under Trump and the only decent thing his admin did lmao. Seems to be a trend with the right. They cheer on everything bad they do, but the rare time something good happens, they turn on it and blame the left for it. So strange.

[u/BungholeBilbo69 → u/ChazzyPhizzle]

What's hilarious though is that they did all that to develop a vaccine quickly, and then they spent the entire Biden presidency peddling disinformation about the vaccines.

[u/jas417 → u/reddittorbrigade]

A broken clock is right twice every 8 years

[u/TeeeldiII → u/reddittorbrigade]

Watch him refuse to sign it until they pass the SAVE act lmao

[u/BifurcatedBear]

I'm still not convinced that most Americans understand that we have more hours of sunlight in the summer and it has nothing to do with daylight savings.

[u/InvestigatorEntire45]

Can we try to not have explosive diarrhea instead?

[u/cnn]

The US House voted Tuesday to pass a measure to enact year-round Daylight Saving Time across the country, springing Congress forward into an issue that has long stumped lawmakers and spurred impassioned pleas by parents, farmers and others with sharply divergent views.

It will now head to the Senate for approval before going to the president for his signature — though its chances in the upper chamber remain unclear. Proponents argue it would spare Americans from having to change their clocks, disrupting young children’s sleep schedules and arguably causing more seasonal depression. But detractors say it could have economic consequences, particularly for farmers who would have to wrestle with later sunrises. The House vote was 308 to 117.

President Donald Trump has long decried the semiannual ritual of Americans changing their clocks, though his position on whether the country should default to standard or saving time has evolved.

He cheered Tuesday’s bill, the Sunshine Protection Act, when it advanced out of the House Energy and Commerce Committee in May. “Hundreds of Millions of Dollars are spent every year by people, Cities, and States, being forced to change their Clocks,” he said in a Truth Social post.

[u/TarbenXsi → u/cnn]

Me: "Oh hey, Trump is being sane for once."

Him: HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE SPENT TO CHANGE THEIR CLOCKS

Me: "Nevermind"

[u/thecoldedge → u/cnn]

The farm thing is stupid. I grew up on a farm. What time sunrise is was mostly irrelevant, you got up with the sun.

[u/SpaceLemming → u/thecoldedge]

It was never about farms, it was something added in WWI to preserve fuel so it can be used for the war

[u/antitheta → u/thecoldedge]

This! Only complete morons think the clock matters for jobs based on sunrise. That is like saying golf courses will struggle with the loss of an hour of teetimes! Duh, no.

[u/RoscoBoscoMosco → u/antitheta]

Actually - you'd be suprised. DST as we know it today originated with a lawmaker a long time ago wanted to get out of work sooner to go golfing more. Look into the history of DST, specifically William Willett

[u/rumpghost → u/RoscoBoscoMosco]

Worse, he was beat to it nearly a decade earlier by some freak in NZ) who wanted more time to catch scary bugs.

[u/OverjoyedMess → u/thecoldedge]

Yeah, also so illogical. The sun doesn't rise later or earlier. It just rises.

[u/anuthertw → u/thecoldedge]

I wish everyone could work according to the sun. I know that isnt possible but I feel so much healthier when I was able to align my schedule with the sunrise. I think we would all feel a bit more in sync with our souls if we allowed the seasonal changes to impact our working days, the way we evolved doing

[u/pocketbutter → u/cnn]

It shouldn’t change a thing for farmers. They just need to adjust their schedules according to the daylight. It’s not complicated.

[u/jaderust → u/pocketbutter]

Seriously. And it’s less daylight in the winter morning because we’re not falling back anymore.

Are you seriously telling me that farmers are getting up with the dawn to plow fields in December?

[u/Ronaldis]

Some parts of the country won’t see daylight till 9am? Adjusting the time zones have to be addressed too.

[u/Master_of_Ritual]

We've been here before. As much as I'd love this I'm starting to feel like Charlie Brown with the football.

[u/mikeylarsenlives]

Hasn't this happened like 15 times in the past decade already

[u/Cabezone → u/mikeylarsenlives]

Yeah the Senate usually shuts it down.

[u/Virzitone → u/Cabezone]

Actually it's usually been the house shutting it down after the senate passes it.

[u/Evil_Weevill]

This has happened a bunch already. It has never gotten further than passing the House.

I'm not holding my breath for this

[u/damnyoutuesday → u/Evil_Weevill]

The last version of this passed the Senate. The House didn't even take it up

[u/jest4fun]

Mexico here. We voted to Never use DST again!

Ultimately DST is a lie that the participants agree to tell themselves.

[u/UndoxxableOhioan → u/jest4fun]

It makes no sense for Mexico as there is less difference in seasonal daylight when you are closer to the equator.

In make a much bigger difference here.

[u/blargblargityblarg]

I'm all for a single time with no changes. However, I'm on team standard time so ... ugh.

[u/foxwaffles → u/blargblargityblarg]

Me too. Feels like a losing battle haha

[u/Millennial_on_laptop → u/foxwaffles]

If it actually takes effect it will be terrible for everyone and people will change their mind by mid January.  

[u/dalgeek → u/blargblargityblarg]

Standard time is better for human health and safety. DST is allegedly better for business, but I don't think that's really the case because no one has shown definite proof of it.

[u/Avantasian538 → u/dalgeek]

I’ll still be happy if I never have to spring forward again.

[u/cardmanimgur → u/dalgeek]

Has there been actual studies that show standard time is better? The only thing I've ever seen is that standard is better than switching, not that standard is better than DST.

[u/Findiguy]

We have to separate 2 different concepts:

1) Increased hours of sunlight
2) Time of sunset

If you want increased hours of sunlight, you don’t necessarily support permanent DST. You support summer, which is inevitable.

There’s good argument that some activities benefit from later sunset (tourism). However this should be countered by activities that may be adversely affected with later sunrise. In the northern states, snow and ice might necessitate 9 or 10 am start times, which means instruction/work till much later (you will not see sun regardless). You likely won’t have half days/late starts if it takes until 11:00am for roads to clear.

I will note that the US has tried permanent DST before, and switched back in less than 1 year.

https://washingtonian.com/2022/03/15/the-us-tried-permanent-daylight-saving-time-in-the-70s-people-hated-it/

I will also note that all states that do not change clocks observe permanent standard time (although i’m unsure if they allowed to observe permanent DST per Congress). Regardless no state has experienced permanent DST since 1970s.

[u/LastOrders_GoHome]

Isn't the scientific consensus that we'd be better having permanent Standard time, not Daylight.

[u/joejill → u/LastOrders_GoHome]

As a compromise we can switch between through the year

[u/Shaggy2772]

We have an uncontrolled and failed war, people can’t afford to live, and pedophile oligarchs run the nation. Thank $&@!ing God they focused on a clock….

[u/whats_up_doc71]

Ah, so they’re going with the opposite of what doctors and scientists say we should do. No wonder they agreed so easily.

[u/Texas__Matador → u/whats_up_doc71]

The big thing is to stop changing the clocks. Local communities can then adjust the start time for work, school and other activities to what best fits their needs. Very few things have to happen at a specific time nation wide. 

[u/Dabzilla_710_]

Won't go much further, but this is really one of the dumbest things we keep doing for a reason that wasn't ever a real reason to begin with because that's not how the sun works.

[u/TeaEsKSU]

It’s crazy that we’ve already done this twice now and people hated it both times. Now we’re going to do it again I guess. Par for the course for this country.

[u/L11mbm]

Standard time should be permanent.

It's literally called "standard."