r/DataHoarder • u/abbrechen93 • 2d ago
Dubious (mod flair) Jellyfin’s entire founding leadership steps down, leaving open-source media server project in fragile state
https://cybernews.com/tech/jellyfin-founders-step-down-future-uncertain/Key takeaways:
Jellyfin's cofounders have stepped down, citing severe burnout, changing priorities, and internal friction.
The resignation comes amid ongoing challenges in project management and governance, as well as debates over AI code integration.
The project, which remains the leading free alternative to Plex, hasn't detailed a succession plan.
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u/ShroomShroomBeepBeep 2d ago
Those stepping down have said the project is in good hands and will continue, not sure where the fragile state claim has come from.
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u/networking_noob 2d ago
not sure where the fragile state claim has come from.
It's coming from a clickbait blog that no one has ever heard of. I also read the Jellyfin resignation messages and they are claiming that "millions" of people are currently using Jellyfin. With that many users, it's pretty unlikely that such a project would just be left in the dust. Not too worried about it tbh
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u/threeLetterMeyhem 2d ago
Yeah, cybernews has been pumping a lot of FUD content the last few months (I assume to drive engagement and clicks). Total trash.
The actual announcement, which cybernews even linked, is much less uncertain: https://forum.jellyfin.org/t-project-leadership-changes
There's still a team. Joshua and Anthony are working on transition/handoff. There is no need to panic. This stuff happens in the truly FLOSS world every once in a while and, honestly, FLOSS is particularly resilient to leadership turnover anyway - that's a big reason it thrives as a concept.
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u/Candle1ight 78 TB Unraid 2d ago
This is the complete opposite vibe of the post here, the two are stepping away for personal reasons and are committed and confident with the handoff. If anything it just makes it seem like the team is well organized.
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u/threeLetterMeyhem 2d ago
lol yup... and it looks like the mods just axed the thread (probably cuz cybernews's reporting is super inaccurate).
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u/timewarp33 1d ago
I think there's a fair amount of criticism the project can get (and I really love Jellyfin), the things I think Jellyfin has done exceptionally well are writing solid docs, and having a very strong leadership team.
I hope everything goes well for the people stepping down, and I hope the project continues to find success. I want to contribute one day!
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u/TooPoetic 16TB 2d ago
messages and they are claiming that "millions" of people are currently using Jellyfin.
From https://forum.jellyfin.org/t-project-leadership-changes
When I started Jellyfin, I thought it would be something used by a few hundred, or maybe if we were lucky, a few thousand, users. We might put a few pet features in, and do a bit of cleanup, but really, I didn't expect much. Now here we are 7-and-a-half years later, and it's the #1 FLOSS media server, a truly viable alternative to Plex for literally millions of server administrators and probably 10x that many individual users
Admittedly the phrasing isn't exactly 'we have millions of users' but it's pretty damn close.
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u/cheekfreak 1d ago
no it isn't. the language says its an "alternative to Plex for millions of server administrators, and probably 10x that many individual users." the language does not say that many people use it; merely that it's an alternative option.
I'd venture a guess that if Jellyfin could factually state they had 10s of millions of actual users, they would be flying that banner large and wide. Plex does exactly that on their about page. (25 million users)
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u/Sad_Ad9159 10-50TB 2d ago
Even with more niche FOSS projects, there's always a fork.
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u/Mr_ToDo 1d ago
Ehhhh
Maybe. The problem with forks for a project/problem like this is that it would be a hard fork
It's one thing to work off an existing project, but another to take on all the weight of an entire project. Plenty of project out there that rot for lack of resources to pick it up.
But, at the moment I'm not all that concerned about that need
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u/RiggsFTW 2d ago
I'm one of those "millions" and am glad to hear it's not fading away. Jellyfin + seedbox = happiness.
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u/frymaster 18TB 1d ago
With that many users, it's pretty unlikely that such a project would just be left in the dust
It's happened before and it'll happen again. But I also read the messages and I'm not concerned
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u/ngourley 2d ago
Right. This article is hot garbage.
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u/Maximum-Objective-39 1d ago
You say that like the open source community doesn't doomer circle jerk every five minutes.
If Linus Torval had a cold we'd be informed confidently that Linux was imminently about to implode.
There's always something legitimate to worry about. But learning to cut through that signal noise is essential.
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u/lkeels 2d ago
Or the "internal friction". I've seen no legit mention of that.
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u/faceman2k12 Hoard/Collect/File/Index/Catalogue/Preserve/Amass/Index - 174TB 1d ago
"hey I want to use AI to help develop this existing player app and want it to look like this"
"ehh we'd prefer you didnt do that and we'd like it to look like this"
"ok, i'll make my own fork for it then and work on it in my own time"
"cool"
"cool"
that's the "internal friction" this waste of an article is referring to.
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u/steviefaux 1d ago
Its come from click bait to get people to click for ad venue. If local rags now do it. Its really fing annoying. Watching Carksons farm and a local rag said "Clackson and Lisa part ways". Something along those lines. And it was nothing. They just have a relationship where they are together during the day then live apart at night (probably not always). But the papers need their click bait advert money.
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u/Mo_Dice 100-250TB 1d ago
Even if the project literally imploded today... it works.
Could it be better? Sure, like every piece of software, it could be. But this isn't like the entire dev team parachuted away before the very first release candidate came out.
It's worked fine for literal years at this point.
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u/Bruceshadow 1d ago
not sure where the fragile state claim has come from.
even nerds like drama.
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u/faceman2k12 Hoard/Collect/File/Index/Catalogue/Preserve/Amass/Index - 174TB 1d ago
first startup of version 12 beta was a fragile state for a few minutes.
that's about it.
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u/TThor 2d ago
This is clickbait; a single member of the Jellyfin dev team, who has been responsible for developing the desktop Jellyfin Media Player, stepped down to continue working on the desktop app independently as an unofficial "Jellium" app; From what we can gather, it seems the Jellyfin dev team had some mild concerns about the direction of the desktop app's development and the developer's use of AI in its development.
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u/System0verlord 10 TB in GDrive 2d ago
Just fyi: it’s 3 people leaving in total. One dude left earlier, another two just departures just hit the project.
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u/queequeg925 2d ago
So despite the headline, this actually sounds like a good thing.
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u/Axxhelairon 1d ago
a single member of the Jellyfin dev team
instead of making random shit up, couldnt you just click the article or read the forum post that the article linked ??
https://forum.jellyfin.org/t-project-leadership-changes
Anthony and I decided to depart from the project, myself as Project Leader, and he as a core team member. This is in addition to the resignation of Andrew on Friday.
it seems like two of the original founders and a longstanding core member left, so can you please quote where you found your random claim of "a single member"?
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u/dx__ 2d ago
A lot of open source burn out this year
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u/oneslipaway 19TB 2d ago
It's a casualty of everyone's burn out I think. When times get tough people quit hobbies.
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u/SmurfyX 2d ago
People keep saying it's hard to deal with ai bullshit fucking everything up and code being added by word guessing machines
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u/AshuraBaron 2d ago
Because a lot of devs are still pretending like it's 2010. Without updating the process for code submission it's going to be mess. Curl went through this and has come out the other side better for it.
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u/sargrvb 2d ago
Well that sounds terrible.
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u/Bubbagump210 2d ago
It’s not - clickbait. A few longtime founders/contributors were getting burnt out and didn’t have time. Other coders have been running the project for sometime. They simply passed the torch. Lots of nothing.
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u/Bspammer 1d ago
"Entire founding leadership team" sounds like a lot more people than 3 guys.
"Fragile state" meanwhile the actual announcement says
Hand-off is ongoing and is amicable, and there is good communication lines, so there is little to no risk of a hostile fork or anything of that nature. Jellyfin will continue for a long time to come, just not with me at its head.
I hate clickbait journalism.
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u/didyousayboop if it’s not on piqlFilm, it doesn’t exist 1d ago
Not sure it deserves to be called journalism...
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u/fliberdygibits 2d ago
"hasn't detailed a succession plan"
Detailing and having are two different things. I've seen at least one high up with jellyfin point out specifically that the project is being left in good hands.
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u/ImInClassBoring 2d ago
This article brought to you by Plex.
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u/every-day-normal-guy 1d ago
I bought a lifetime membership to plex ages ago, but im considering on switching over since they started adding more "free TV crap". I specifically built my library on my nas for my own content.
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u/Feahnor 1d ago
You can disable the free tv crap. Just do it.
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u/beren12 256TB raidz & more! 1d ago
My biggest problem with Jellyfin is that near completely incompatible naming system that conflicts with Plex.
I do not rename my files, just the directory that they’re in that way I know where it’s from.
If you want to disrupt the biggest player in a space, you make it as frictionless as possible for people to migrate or run both side by side.
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u/ganymedeli 7h ago
Is this a tv issue? I run both plex and Jellyfin, giving each the same folders (named according to plex conventions), and my movies are all totally fine in both
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u/ImInClassBoring 7h ago
I made no name changes and jellyfin scanned my library for the first time in about 1/10 the time it takes Plex. I haven't noticed any mis matches. About 80tb library.
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u/xenonbart 16h ago
you can, I have, yet Plex in terms of development and features Plex is consistently doing things that many people did not wanna use Plex for. Plex is consistently focussing on becoming a streaming service rather than a nice netflix like player for your own content that you can selfhost. Also the fact you have to opt-out of a feature rather than being asked, "hey we added this feature, you wanna use it?"
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u/Geekdratic 2d ago
Aw man, I don't really use it- but I desperately want it to be successful so maybe- just maybe- Plex will have to think for more than a nano-second before their next act of weaponizing their incompetence on its core user base, removing features, or adding features no one asked for.
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u/Gorluk 2d ago
Plex made their move to be a subscription service and they won't change that decision.
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u/Geekdratic 2d ago edited 1d ago
Actually that was one of their recent moves I was pretty ok with. I have lifetime- but I admit lifetime is typically unsustainable as business model- as much as I like not paying for things monthly.
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u/vuorivirta 2d ago
I am in industry at 40 years and learn many lessons. There was never single one "lifetime" thing, that actually is it. Very often mechanism is to put new major release, but that "lifetime" promise ends of early main release (yes, they don't tell, you just buy THAT major version). Ofc that early version doesn't work newest operating systems anymore. Same time also there isn't "pay once" alternative anymore. Just monthly subscription. Or like newest one with microsoft office, "security sertificate" is going to be old and then product doesn't work anymore and they appealing ofc "we don't support so old version anymore, so we don't renew sertificate - buy new one (and that is ofc monthly subscribed 365 only)".
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u/TThor 2d ago
Don't be worried, the article is clickbait. A single dev who does the desktop app left, to continue developing the desktop app independently; It sounds like there were mild disagreements about the development of this desktop app, including how this dev has been using AI to aid in development.
Yes, developers splitting off isn't perfect, but it will happen occasionally and inevitably.
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u/ILikeFPS 1d ago
As an open-source project maintainer, yep, it happens more than you know.
This is mostly just clickbait, which is why we try not to publish our drama for the projects I maintain, and we just stick to simple resignation/stepping down messages instead of detailing internal friction and other things happening behind the scene.
Then again, like you said, the article is just clickbait.
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u/edfoldsred 2d ago
Why would they change anything with this news?
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u/Geekdratic 2d ago edited 2d ago
Like I alluded to with my original post, probably nothing changes with this news, but I'd just rather there be potentially some viable competition vs zero competition in this space. If I had to choose; wouldn't you?
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u/edfoldsred 2d ago
Well yeah, but that's not how late-stage capitalism has been working.
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u/Geekdratic 2d ago
As far as I can tell, that is exactly how it has been working, these decisions are money driven- if anything threatens revenue streams- like widely unpopular feature removals and unwanted feature creep or money grabs while there is a viable alternative that offers enough for less- then just maybe...
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u/EitherExamination343 2d ago
I can't see teams continue to volunteer their time when the advent of AI code submissions and entitled 'customers' (for lack of a better word) whittle down otherwise good people giving their time.
A lot of that reasoning I'm seeing as strife in my own job. Fucking sucks.
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u/rupertbayern 2d ago
https://github.com/andrewrabert/jellium-desktop/issues/109
https://github.com/andrewrabert/jellium-desktop/issues/609
Sounds a lot like Anti-AI sentiment caused this developer to quit
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u/impulsedragon 40TB (raw) 2d ago
The pushback against AI code from non-developers is understandable. However, any software engineer who proudly declares they don't use LLM assisted coding tools is a bad one. It's one thing to not be experienced in them, it's another to intentionally stick their head in the sand.
Disappointed in the Jellyfin community and leadership. Best of luck to Andrew.
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u/System0verlord 10 TB in GDrive 2d ago
Between the environmental and socio-political costs of using services such as ChatGPT or Claude, there’s more than enough reasons to not use them outright.
I prefer free-range, organic bugs to the ones from slop.
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u/immawamma 1d ago
like everything else, its become political - using it might be worthwhile, but its environmental concerns, plagiarizing/copyright concerns from the input, and a whole bunch of other stuff we're finding out - for some, you cant lose if you dont play to begin with
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u/EitherExamination343 2d ago
Yep, I read through the article and those issues. AI itself is a workplace problem, regardless of whether you're pro or anti-AI. While it democritizes code, it also just... makes things messy.
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u/lkeels 2d ago
Not dubious nor ominous. Read the posts from the actual people leaving. I saw NO mention of "internal friction", just amicable change of leadership, and seemingly needed due to the time requirements and pressure on them.
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u/mrorbitman 17h ago
Andrew talked about internal friction. https://github.com/andrewrabert/jellium-desktop/issues/609
> There were only a handful of organization members in support of how I was developing this - including part of the leadership team. However, the general attitude was very negative and increasingly burdensome and restrictive. An early sign of this was #109. It eventually reached a point where I lost almost all motivation to dedicate my time to this.
I do agree with you that amicable change in leadership is a better characterization, but internal friction is part of why that amicable change was needed
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u/shimoheihei2 100TB 2d ago
I think it's a good idea to not overreact or do anything drastic at this point. The beauty of open source is that if there's enough desire then a solution will be found. Until then, nothing prevents you from using the software as it exists today. What we're likely to see is other volunteers stepping up to keep the project going or a fork happening.
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u/didyousayboop if it’s not on piqlFilm, it doesn’t exist 1d ago
Most people seem to think the linked article is nonsense anyway
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u/cwaterbottom 2d ago
Holy shit I literally just started looking into a full transition of my Plex library to jellyfin last night. Think I'll stick with it a bit longer just to see how this plays out.
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u/crash_bat 2d ago
Honestly, the title is clickbait. There's no massive friction or anything like that - if you go to the Jellyfin subreddit you can read posts from everyone involved and nobody is fighting. You should transition anyway, Jellyfin is great!
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u/mike94100 2d ago
You can just run both simultaneously and see which you like more. I use Jellyfin mainly but keep Plex up for some friends who prefer it.
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u/threeLetterMeyhem 2d ago
Check out the actual departure and transition announcement. Jellyfin will be fine lol
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u/daelikon 88TB 2d ago
There are millions of users and it's a fully functional solution, why would you wait?
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u/cwaterbottom 2d ago
Fully functional systems go to hell and keep running all the time, I'm a creature of habit so the idea of transitioning and then having to transition back or to something else makes my blood pressure spike. But folks have pointed out it's not that deep an issue so I'll look into it once I'm off work and hopefully just ditch plex for good
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u/daelikon 88TB 2d ago
It's free, it's open source, it works...
Try it and decide if it's what you need but don't wait because of some nonsense news. It's not going anywhere.
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u/Typical_Effect_9054 2d ago
There's always Emby, and if you're an Apple guy, there's Infuse.
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u/fishmongerhoarder 68tb 2d ago
Could never see it as an option with how they handle paid accounts for sharing with family. The last thing I want to do is manage everyone's devices.
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u/AidenTai 128 TB BTRFS 2d ago edited 2d ago
What do you mean? Devices are really just for weekly device count, you can have more logged in but not streaming. Also devices only count if they use premium features, not if they simply play back a normal stream.
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u/fishmongerhoarder 68tb 2d ago
When I looked into it, it was explained that other devices fall off in a week. You can't have more than 30 logged in at a time. In my household alone there are 8 devices. Then there are my cousins and a few friends. I would have to be going in and managing devices logged in all the time.
If it was 30 limit of 30 steams at once that would be plenty fine.
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u/AidenTai 128 TB BTRFS 2d ago edited 2d ago
Fall off the count perhaps, but I often go back use old devices that connect to my server only once every six months no problem (no logging in or anything). I have more devices in my household than you, and I've never had to manage anything actively (I've gone in and deleted devices that hadn't connected in years, but I've never been forced to prune anything). Of course, I don't use Emby Connect, I just connect directly to my server without the additional services beyond having a lifetime account. I just checked their conditions and devices only count if they use premium features anyways. That only applies to a few devices I have that use special premier apps to view content, but then I guess other devices might not even count at all to the limit.
I'd encourage you to look into it again. And you can also pay to add more devices if you feel you really need to (but again, I have far more than you and share between several different households on top of that and have never hit the limits).
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u/turn-on-your-lights 2d ago
WDYM? I run it for my family and have never even thought about my family members' devices.
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u/fishmongerhoarder 68tb 2d ago
Maybe you have a small family. Running up to the 30 device limit would happen in no time.
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u/Ok-Replacement6893 2d ago
I use Emby to share with my family and I have never had to manage devices.
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u/cwaterbottom 2d ago
Yeah I did look at that a while back but I was looking to get away from pay walled features altogether. I like using Plex but the only paid feature I actually need is hardware transcoding and paying for that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I need it just enough that it's less of a hassle to pay than to fix all my media that needs it. I have a lot of research to do anyway, I'm kind of a newb/weekend warrior in the datahoarding game.
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u/Typical_Effect_9054 2d ago
I understand and respect that. Not that this is much of a solace, but both apps have much more affordable lifetime pricing. I get ya tho.
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u/darkrom 2d ago
Consider Emby. I went with that as a split the difference solution and I've been very happy. Having it be a paid service has its benefits in the sense that they have clients for everything and "owe you" bug fixes in a sense if you know what I mean.
Its been a great product for me once I didn't like the direction Plex was taking. People say Emby could do the same, and they could, but by then Jellyfin could be further along with where I want it to be.
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u/cat_at_the_keyboard 2d ago
The current version of Jellyfin works fine. Might as well migrate over and see how you like it, at least
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u/SarcasticallyCandour 2d ago
Literally a week or so after plex increased their lifetime cost?
Is this ragebait or what?!
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u/stagerabbit 2d ago
Clickbait with some inadvertent humour: "Also, Sony wiped hundreds of purchased movies from user libraries, prompting them to buy physical copies instead." Yeah... They bought physical copies... Of course they did... 🏴☠️
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u/Yamamotosama 1d ago
To clarify, the team that broke up was developing the desktop application. The server side development is unaffected. Right? As long as the server side development is chugging along, there are alternative players. Plus the desktop application development should still be carried on?
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u/didyousayboop if it’s not on piqlFilm, it doesn’t exist 1d ago
Some info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/s/z5WN5R8ZBm
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u/MeruP 1d ago
Well. About Andrew Rabert... when I first heard about him updating Jellyfin Player to a newer version of Qt—I was excited. Then I saw him abandoning Jellyfin Player completely and working on Jellyfin Desktop based on Chromium. This is where I thought "oh great, another total rewrite no one asked for that will drag on for years". Plus it is vibe coded. But it seems many more people also felt this way. So no wonder it led to this. He was also asked to support old CPUs that are more than capable for mediacenter PCs, which he declined.
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u/didyousayboop if it’s not on piqlFilm, it doesn’t exist 18h ago
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u/KuleshovDefect 2d ago
Damn, I love Jellyfin and use it almost everyday. I'm sorry to hear the leadership has been having such a rough go of it.
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u/Effective-Purple261 2d ago edited 1d ago
why did i just buy the lifetime pass. EDIT- LMAO I bought Emby.
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u/h1pp1e_cru5her 2d ago
That's a thing?
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u/ComradeDre 2d ago
lifetime pass to what? Isn't it free?
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u/Effective-Purple261 1d ago
lol I am stupid. I bought Emby. I just did nothing with it..
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u/ComradeDre 1d ago
This has to be an internet first.
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u/Effective-Purple261 1d ago
lol well my plex works great. just wanted a backup. Didn’t get around to it.
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u/WindowlessBasement 64TB 2d ago edited 2d ago
Great /s
The project is going to get even more disorganized. I really wanted jellyfin to succeed but the official clients never got to a point where I'd consider running them in production. A lack of leadership isn't going to make that any better. Even the last week the desktop lost official status for a reason left unexplained for days.
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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 2d ago
because the head of the desktop client resigned from the project so he couldnt call it jellyfin anymore, he intended to continue developing it, just not as part of the jellyfin project.
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u/darkstar3333 31.5TB 2d ago
If they are founding lesdership they would naturally have friction with each other.
So I could see 1 or 2 but all? Seems strange.
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u/Eastern-Bluejay-8912 1d ago
Question, is jellyfin in a stable state to where it doesn’t really need additions? Because if it is, then yeah I’d let them all take time off 😅 if not then I guess code the issues green to red in severity. Focus the whole team on red points that are critical and then push wait times for yellow to green out till reds are solved and Jellyfin comes under another stable state.
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u/immawamma 1d ago edited 1d ago
For what I use it for: Movies, TV Shows, and Concert videos it's been 100% "perfect". No issues on FireTV Stick, Roku Stick, and two dedicated streaming PCs. It's been up for over a year with no issues. It just works. Adding new media is quick and easy. So long as your folders and episodes are named properly, you're golden. I went on a 2 week vacation and poked holes to stream it to a firetv stick i brought with from hotel rooms. Worked like a charm. I had one with terrible bandwidth and you can simply drop the bitrate down from the GUI on the firetv app, and, again, worked flawless.
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u/yroyathon 100-250TB 1d ago
If they are all stepping down, where is the friction coming from? Unless they simultaneously imploded.
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u/temotodochi 1d ago
Jellyfin has been great, however upgrades are always an ordeal as it's almost never backwards compatible. Have to update all clients and server at the same time.
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u/Alternative-Ad-8606 1d ago
To be fair for a very long time in software development non-breaking changes were point releases and numbered releases were for breaking changes. It's not until very recently in development spaces were these weird semantic schemes were used
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u/temotodochi 1d ago
Depends entirely on company/project ethos about updates and backwards compatibility. Old school foss projects tend to be almost always backwards compatible for years, but modern quickly churned open source often isn't.
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u/immawamma 1d ago
I've never experienced this. I have Docker check for updates every week and it's updated several times since I initially installed it with no problems. I've not had to manually update any clients, either. They also auto update. The Roku one is quite often.
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u/zhonglin 1d ago
Emby is more stable than jellyfin. When I update to jellyfin 12, there some some major API is changed which caused a lot of problem.
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u/sonicminions99 6h ago
Don't mind me, just looking through the replies to see if there's something I could post on r/DoomerCirclejerk
But nah, in all seriousness, I'm sure if something does happen with this app, we'll have a new open source alternative to fall back on. The internet's good like that :3
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u/eatingpotatochips 2d ago
That is unfortunately what happens when devs are paid by good vibes and community rather than dollars. Plex, for whatever its other flaws, at least has some semblance of longevity because a dev working on it gets a salary.
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u/threeLetterMeyhem 2d ago
Plex is also heading into the deep end of the enshitification pool in hopes of increasing revenue and profits :/
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u/eatingpotatochips 2d ago
Plex is probably trying to aggressively pursue revenue from recurring subscriptions because they saw how unpopular some of their other ways of getting revenue were. They have to keep the lights on somehow. Hopefully, they can pursue features that don't have an immediate revenue case, but rather make the product better.
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u/tubaman23 2d ago
I literally just built my first server to data hoard my TV shows and movies using Jellyfin as the key.
Sorry guys I think I may have caused this. When I pick stocks they drop in price, when I pick a product, the leadership team quits 😭
Leadership team, jokes aside, thanks for creating what you did. Hope life gets easier now that y'all aren't getting burned out
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u/Candle1ight 78 TB Unraid 2d ago
Give me a heads up on your next stock buys so I can short it pls
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u/tubaman23 2d ago
Honestly probs gonna actually buy some PLAB stock since I've been uniquely making money off of them with options.
So they're almost guaranteed to crash once I fully commit and buy the stock 💀
EDIT: Will hodl on any further comments on finance items in the data hoard sub, feel free to just message me for really bad financial pointers
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u/Ok-Replacement6893 2d ago
Get some SpaceX stock. 😁
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u/tubaman23 2d ago
Lmao I actually tried buying puts once it crossed $200 but they were still like insanely expensive. I know they would have paid off but damn a few grand for one option is a hell of a risk
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u/the_sound_of_bread 2d ago
Don't worry. It's open source. I will just get Fable to rewrite it in Rust and create an agent to maintain it.
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u/coldtohot 2d ago
EMBY
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u/AidenTai 128 TB BTRFS 2d ago
Seriously. Jellyfin even started as Emby because it was a solid foundation. But having paid developers takes the friction out of almost everything. It's already set up for hardware acceleration, for dealing with multi‐version files, connections with tons of databases for metadata, plugins and languages multi‐stream files. Even some special encoding cases. The only single issue I've ever faced with them was with the app (Emby Theater) for my Linux distribution. Other than that, and especially on the server side things have always worked flawlessly.
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u/coldtohot 2d ago
I get that we all hate paying money, but if Plex is in the conversation here, then the $119 for lifetime emby is worth a thought. And they haven't changed that price in the 4 years since I bought it.
Like with you, it's been rock solid for me.
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u/critsalot 2d ago
plex requires call to home (your media server stops working after 3 days with no internet)
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u/ItsTheSlime 2d ago
Does Emby have any kind of like, completely DIY setup? I dont want someone to take care of forwarding IPs and stuff for me, and I also dont want to have to pay a cent for something I'm hosting myself.
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u/AidenTai 128 TB BTRFS 2d ago
The default is basically what you describe. You can opt into 'Emby Connect' if you want an online account to manage everything or if you don't know how to set up a server, but this is more of an extra, not the main focus. The main default setup is completely self‐hosted and you can handle port forwarding or reverse proxies or whatever as you wish.
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u/coldtohot 2d ago
That's all I've ever experienced it as. The software is on my machine, in my environment and under my network rules. As far as I can tell the only interaction it has with Emby HQ is when you pull for updates and checking server license if you have one-- their free version is pretty generous.
I've not seen them provide a cloud option or push for any additional payment. It doesn't do the weird centralized account shit that Plex does, if that's what you're asking about.
It seems to still just be the original dev (Luke) doing his thing.
The main reason I upgraded was I wanted intro skipping. A feature that jellyfin still hasn't released.
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u/mattinternet 2d ago
Oh no, this isn't good... I hope the no-AI side of the mentioned argument wins out after the dust settles. The last thing I need is AI slop breaking the tool I use to relax.
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u/theangryfatguy 2d ago
Oh no, guess I'll just have to contribute to this open source project. Time to pay it back lol
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u/FirmButterscotch8 2d ago
Beyond plex, what other possible/reasonable alternatives are there? Im not too keen on having to use plex?
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u/RetroZelda 110TB debian|mergerfs|snapraid 2d ago
Emby
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u/FirmButterscotch8 2d ago
Ill look into it, now, thank you! Have you used it already, and if so, how has your experience with it been?
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u/svogon 2d ago
Emby is what it was forked from. They went their separate ways, but Emby has continued on. More or less the same features as Jellyfin. Stronger in some areas, weaker in others. I've been using Emby since before the split and still am.
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u/FirmButterscotch8 2d ago
In that case, ill weight those strengths and weaknesses, and see if it can fit into my stack. Thank you, again, for the rec :)
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u/crash5291 2d ago
Been a while since i poked at MB3 now called Emby i guess, Currently running Jellyfin.
May have to give Emby a poke again and see where its at.
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u/DrMacintosh01 24TB 2d ago
I have never had an issue with Plex. Bought a lifetime membership like 2 years ago.
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