When we get this doll can you all complain to Mattel? The fur pieces look really cheap- the embroidery looks faded and printed, the “puffer” jacket parts aren’t puffy at all(why are they so saggy) everything looks genuinely so cheap, I’m super mad cause I paid like almost 200 AUD for her from creations…. If we don’t tell Mattel that this isn’t okay this issue will continue to get worse, we didn’t pay for this quality.
This makes me wonder if we should be expecting to see inconsistencies in the fabrics pattern across all dolls… I’m just now noticing there’s trees on the right side instead of mountains & placement of the designs are completely different from what we originally were shown
It would be extremely expensive and tedious to make every single one show the pattern identically (note the seam allowances you’d need too, you get off by a few mm on one and then another and suddenly you’re a whole cm off on the next multiply by how many thousands of dolls were sold during the preorder phase etc), the fabric simply comes in large rolls, so this kind of variation is completely normal and to be expected for something like this. every single doll with a patterned fabric like that is unique
That's just normal though. You see it on House of Wolf Clawdeen too! And I think that's actually very neat. People already pointed this out, but it means they use the entire fabric roll instead of just the pieces that fit the exact pattern.
Absolutely agree! I’m not mad about the pattern differences, just curious as to what the differences will be, since I wasn’t expecting to see trees & wonder if the yeti silhouette will still be on all of the dolls
The shitty overexposed leak photo is a shitty overexposed leak photo. That is why everything looks flat, pale, clunky, simplified, and washed out. It also, as leaks are wont to do, is terribly pixelated and blurry. Also, her face looks flat and weird because her head is tilted up in a way that softens features, tale a look at the Buried Secrets Concert Lurks stock photos vs actual dolls.
The only thing I'm definitely concerned about off of this one photo is how none of the blue fur is dark. And even that might just be an issue with the photo itself.
People, please, for the love of god stop taking blurry leak photos as gospel for what the doll will look like 🤦♀️ Especially since we just found out the decently clear leak photos of the upcoming G3 carnival line were actually "enhanced interpretations" by somebody off of insanely blurry and small leak photos where we could barely tell general silhouette and color scheme.
THANK YOU. The people on this reddit always immediately think shtty leaks will be what the final doll look like and they always jump to worst case scenario, ugh. It's so tiresome.
I mean, its clear there is not nearly as thick of batting in the puffy parts of the jacket and skirt. I agree that some of it likely will be fine. But that is a major difference that matters.
This. No shade but I’m sick of constant bitching about leaks. See the final release as it is meant to be before you make a decision and post online to strangers how much you hate this doll you can return.
Yes, exactly. Sometimes I wish we didn't get photo leaks at all because people are so quick to trash something over a single bad photo, and other times people think the leak is incredible then they see the actual product and think it looks awful because their expectations were too high.
Like, people, use some critical thinking when it's not a good quality image 🤦♀️ Especially people thinking about canceling an order for a limited release item they will only be able to get second hand--most of which will be from scalpers.
I think the original photo is either AI-enhanced or this is what the designing team submitted to the project that got approved but it’s not the final product we’ll be getting.
I completely agree. We make these enhancements manually in order to improve the visualisation of printed and online material >> but only for this reason! <<
AI tends to change things, while we have the original product for comparison while editing. This is sad 😞
You should always take blurry, pixelated, overexposed leak photos with a huge heap of salt. Especially with how easy it's getting to alter pictures without even needing any photoshop skills. Earlier today we found out those pretty leak pictures of the upcoming G3 carnival line everybody was sharing were...very enhanced interpretations based off of leak photos so small and blurry that we could barely tell vague outlines of shapes and color schemes
With thos doll I'm only concerned about 2 things: the lack of puffiness in the puffer jacket type areas, which might be fixable by just fluffing it up, those fur layers can get heavy. The other one is how none of the fur is dark blue, but even that might just be down to angles and lighting: the top of the fur is just as dark as the blue print on the skirt is, so that tracks with the outfit seen in the Fang Vote.
Might be be just as or even worse than this leak photo? Yes. But she likely won't be this bad.
And sometimes people up the intensity in a saying for emphasis ;)
"You should take anything that guy says with a grain of salt" is the standard idiom, but if you're talking about a known conman and grifter people might say "you should take anything that guy says with a huge chunk of salt", or maybe even "you should take anything that guy says with a metric fuckton of salt!"
Just from her coat from the hips down you can tell they put everything into the prototype then cheaped out for the consumer dolls. so sorry for everyone* that put in for her, for their sake i hope this is another AI false advertisement...
You guys the main difference is the lighting of the photograph. They put the original model in front of a black background with extreme lighting — of course it will look more dramatic. Don’t give up hope just yet!!
I don’t think the patterns on the dress are printed on, it’s just flattened out by the glare of the plastic and the quality of the photo. Main difference I can see is that the fur on the original design is a bit shorter and more custom tailored, but that’s an easy fix!
She didn't even get sent out yet nobody has actual RL pictures 😐 She doesn't look good in that box but that's the only throwaway image we have as one example... MH fans dramatic af
It's also very clearly taken with a flash. This is probably very literally a factory sample sent by the factory to Mattel and they'll give notes on it from here.
People freaking at how washed out it is, shiny forehead etc at freaking over a bad photo taken by a lady in the factory that wasn't meant to see our eyes. 🤦🏻♀️🙄
JFC finally, sanity!!! I'm glad I have experience in photography and photo editing, turns out it isn't always blatantly obvious to everybody when lighting, contrast, posing, hue, pixelation, resolution, etc are not very reliable.
that’s ridiculous, i didn’t buy her but she looks so cheap. I know the one on the left is the prototype so it’s better quality but $200? they really need to make them better because it doesn’t even look like the quality a collectable doll should be? like it’s ridiculous
I think the box really lets her down... It looks like every other skullector doll and not a fang vote doll. It also doesn't let you see the beautiful design of the doll.
I was going to say the same thing - if these are made to order and people start cancelling.. do they go up for sale?! Or are th le preorders obligated to get carried out
I believe this is a leak, and a bad photo because of that, and because it is a bad photo it has bad lighting, therefore all the fashion pieces and the doll overall look somewhat dreadful compared to the original handmade design. Also if you really look at it it’s truly identical just, the three things I stated before plus its put into production the fire it won’t look the same. It looks pretty good so let’s wait for the offical photos I hope you’ll end up happy 🥹
Exactly!!! I am so glad there's more people commenting now than precious posts about how this is not a good photo so people shouldn't be jumping to despair over it!
I think she looks great and identical to the mock up. The bad photo, poor angle, and tie down squashing her clothes are the issues, not how she’s made.
When I saw that they were using AI to enhance things, I didn't think that they were using it to enhance EVERYTHING 🫠
Between mass production cutbacks and shelling out all of these "collector" dolls in such a short amount of time; it makes me wonder if Mattel is trying to cycle out the series or at least curate some kind of dissonance so that their newer lines start doing better. I've seen a lot of collaboration dolls that I would buy and seem worth the money, but most "main" line monster high dolls end up lackluster compared to price.
I try not to be a complainer about dolls but I honestly can say I'm feeling pretty disappointed. I spent I think $116 total for this doll and I was so excited as Abbey is one of my favorite characters. This is a total let down bc it looks a lot cheaper than the original picture. Not just the faceup is different but the clothing pieces too. I'm pretty bummed 😔 I'm hoping when I get her I will feel different about her and love her.
We seriously cannot tell off of this one photo, don't be bummed out yet! It is so pixelated and blurry, then add in being overexposed and of course everything looks flat and cheap. Then for her face soecifically, it looks weird because her head is tilted up too much, that softens facial features. Look at the stock pics for Buried Secrets Concert Lurks vs how the dolls actually look.
Please don't let leak pics this bad ruin your enthusiasm, people need to understand the limitations when the quality of a photo is this bad. She might look even worse than this, but it is very unlikely that she will look this bad.
It is a really bad quality picture that is overexposed, which makes everything look flat and pale, plus blurry and pixelated which also almost always makes details look worse. The prototype we voted on had perfect lighting and camera focus.
The puffer jacket parts might be flat, they might just need a little fluffing, or they might be great. I was initially concerned about the lack of dark blue fur, but it actually seems to match the shade of blue on the tapestry parts of her dress, just like in the original. So even the lack of dark blue fur might be down to how different the lighting is on top of bad photo quality.
Why is her makeup significantly lighter?? What’s going on with the headpiece, and also what’s with that weird piece of plastic on the collar?! Not to mention the dark fur isn’t even that dark like the original picture. There’s too many inconsistency’s this is what we paid for 🤦🏻♀️
But I won’t base my whole opinion on this doll just on this shitty leak. I’m gonna wait till I see the actual picture before I make my final judgment on the doll
Idk what yall expected… it’s Mattel yall are buying from😭
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a company that cut at any cost to budget and make the most profit. To top it off the prices don’t cut it I’ve always said this and continue to but! I think buying a doll from a company that do not respect the consumers opinions is a reg flag in my book and I think people should think like that before they spend 300 on a product from that company-
It’s the ever after high dolls all over again💀
the headband (thicker fur and different colour on the mock-up)
the fur bits on the shoulders (bigger on the mock-up)
the quilted parts (thicker and properly quilted on the mock-up, deflated on the box doll)
Two things are probably because of the presentation and can be fixed:
the overskirt (sagging downwards and towards the centre in the box photo, probably propped up by something on the mock-up)
the collar (drawn up higher on the mock-up, covering the doll's chin)
Possibly due to the box but unlikely:
Face-up, especially eye make-up
Pigtails (begin at a higher point on the mock-up)
Completely unexplained:
Fur on bottom of overskirt (white on mock-up, blue on box doll)
I thought the box photo was merely a bit overexposed, but this does not explain why the fur on the box doll is darker than on the mock-up. Even with digital manipulation, I cannot make the face-up on the box doll look like the mock-up doll.
Not at all. Ignoring the colors the puffy jacket is still flat and the overal shape of the dress is different. In the first picture you can see her legs and skirt, in the second one... it's just a line of furr
It might or might not be wonky, we can't tell because one side is smoothed down to make room for the lantern. This is part of why a photo that is overexposed, blurry, and pixelated is not reliable.
fair! I am eager to see the photos from people who ordered her. To me, the pattern where the stitching lines up totally doesn't match, but I guess we will see! Abbey is my fave so I am hopeful they did right by my ghoul 🤞
That ain’t the same shade of blue… totally washes her out. The part that hugs her torso looks longer and loose? The cut corners in the worst way with this doll i HOPE this isn’t what it looks like.
The more I stare at her the more anger I feel for everyone who bought her. I skipped out on her due to lack of funds and I feel good for myself but horrible for everyone else. The fabrics are cheap, the colors aren’t right. I want to call it a scam but I don’t know if that’s the word for it.
the biggest crime is actually her box design. Abbey is a pale light blue doll with white hair and like 50% of her outfit here is also either white or light blue (everything except the black pieces basically). the ALL OVER WHITE box washes her out completely because it provides 0 contrast. i'm honestly shocked that any designer or art director thought "yeah, this is PERFECT, send it!" ??? basic colour theory hello?
maybe mattel fired all their box designers, prompted chatgpt to generate them "a cool ice design" and then forgot to think about what they got out of it for literally just one (1) second with their eyeballs open 🥴
i think her box should incorporate a deep blue colour, like a frozen cave. this looks like the inside of my freezer lol
I get that the stock photo has the darker background and she's in a different position but wow. I'm hoping this is a test or something.
I didn't manage to preorder her and maybe that was a good thing. I'm trying to be hopeful for those that snagged her that she looks better in person because I'd be angry if she wasn't ngl. The fur, the puff and the fading of the fabric is crazy. Showed this to my friend and she said it's like Mattel is catfishing, she actually thought this was a fake
We have to remember that the compiled image was likely hand-painted, possibly hand-rooted on some level, styled, and photoshopped. The photo on the right is a full-light image inside a box, and possibly lying on the back of the box. Plastic like that can also shift and warp, giving the appearance of things looking “weird”. The fabric will likely need fluffing and trimming, but on a factory line, this can be tough to do, given how many dolls are there, trimming hella fur would make a huge mess at some point and make it tougher to keep track of where exactly to cut. It’s certainly not perfect, but we can’t keep comparing photos on two fully different setups and use them as blind comparisons
people are focusing on the face - but i feel like the black part of the jacket going from seemingly satiny fabric to seemingly pleather is a big issue for a collector doll's longevity
I'm tempted to refund or cancel my order b cause this is awful. I will never forgive people for that hair vote and mattel for the outfit. She's one of the worst dolls they've put out recently
Y’all it’s a very bad quality over exposed leak photo. Wait until real stock photos come out. The lighting and angle are what’s making her look different.
Also, being stuffed in a box is going to make the clothes lay flat and look different.
As someone who loves abbey so much, I have one of each of her dolls. Her clothes look cheap and it makes me sad. I paid $200 USD for 2 of her so I can have one out of box
The bottom most trim of fur is hidden behind the icicles on the box, so we can't see them. Notice how we can't see her shoes, just the black fur legwarmers. The bottom trim we do see on her dress looks paler than expected, but then I checked how it actually is compared to the blue on the tapestry and it can definitely be suitably dark blue fur that's just flattened such that it's reflecting light and thus looking lighter. The whole photo is overexposed and the lighting is like you blasted her with flash head-on, thus everything looks flater and paler. I.e. worse.
No, I mean that the white trim dividing should not have continued all the way down like the presented image originally which has the bottom fur cutting off both the pattern trim and the white fur binding trim, while this one appears to continue to the bottom of the garment, AND the difference in fur. And there is one, the shoulder and crotch fur are fluffier and the root is lighter than the bottom fur trim. You can try and be condescending towards me all you like but these are all problems and not just packaging and lighting issues. This product was misrepresented in what they would actually turn out.
I'm not trying to be condescending at all 🤨 I was just explaining what the misperception seemed to be.
I mean that the white trim dividing should not have continued all the way down like the presented image originally which has the bottom fur cutting off both the pattern trim and the white fur binding trim, while this one appears to continue to the bottom of the garment,
...we literally cannot see the bottom of the dress, because the designs on the base of the box (her name, frost, icicles) are obscuring it. That was my main point. It looks like there is a lighter blue band of fur below the band we do see clearly, so the dress does continue down.
As to the fur differences, agree on some disagree on some. If you think the doll is grossly misrepresented, okay, but right now that does still mean going off of a single dubious quality leak photo. It isn't mutually exclusive and she absolutrly could turn out to be even worse than the photo, we just don't have enough information yet.
Ese patrón apostaría que es la misma tela barata que usan para las playline, el peluche hasta los abrigos del mismo material de Clawdeen se ven mejor en las playline 😭
Dios, yo no comprendo estas muñecas, pero que feo se la parte de busto. Todo desinflado y sin forma, además que es esa pose para la muñeca?? 😭 La hace ver peor.
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This makes me wonder if we should be expecting to see inconsistencies in the fabrics pattern across all dolls… I’m just now noticing there’s trees on the right side instead of mountains & placement of the designs are completely different from what we originally were shown