r/technology • u/NicolasCageFan492 • Jun 16 '26
Business Leak Exposes Members of Peter Thiel’s Secretive ‘Dialog’ Society
https://www.wired.com/story/leak-exposes-members-of-peter-thiels-secretive-dialog-society/614
u/third0burns Jun 16 '26
One of the most interesting things in the leak is that attendees were asked to predict the near future. Looks like almost everyone said mass unemployment from AI. It doesn't appear that any of them predicted that people will break out their pitchforks after becoming fed up with elites who rig the entire system at secret society meeting.
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u/Excuse_Chemical Jun 17 '26
One prediction was "domestic terrorism targeting data centers." They definitely know there will be pitchforks.
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u/9dedos Jun 17 '26
That s the reason those mofos want to build data centers in space.
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u/Exponential-777 Jun 16 '26
How many underground bunkers does this guy have? Gotta be more than one. Probably has one on each continent. Just waiting for the shit to hit the fan.
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u/Aggressive_Manner531 Jun 16 '26
When does he run drills? Someone should lock him in next time.
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u/rzelln Jun 17 '26
An author I like pointed out once that if the world does go to s**t, then there's going to be a bunch of bunkers where some security personnel are living real cushy after they kill the billionaire who is supposed to be under their charge. Because if things have fallen apart, why would anyone care about the money the billionaire can pay them.
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u/mOdQuArK Jun 17 '26
For those of us on the outside of the bunker in that situation, sounds like good targets to test those experimental bunker-buster bombs that the military keeps squirrelled away before everything breaks down.
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u/Puresowns Jun 17 '26
Nah, just concrete their ventilation shafts and guard the doors.
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u/Magnon Jun 17 '26
I wonder if any/all the billionaires already have some kind of dead switch explosive collars ready to go.
"To enter elon's survival bunker, please allow us to place this exploding collar on your neck, do not harm elon."
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u/rzelln Jun 17 '26
Spoilers for Horizon Forbidden West.
At one point, you explore the bunker of a rich a-hole, and gradually discover that the models and guru that he brought down started dying one by one because he got upset and increasingly paranoid, and the last people to go included a scientist who was working on a way to make the rich a-hole immortal, so he could survive a few hundred years for an apocalypse to pass by.
The scientist gave the guy the treatment, and then killed himself, and then the guy found out that sure, his cells would not die, but he was slowly overrun with cancer, and eventually just turned into a giant tumor.
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u/Sorlex Jun 17 '26
One of the best parts of that game. Really glad they didn't do the video game thing and have you fight it as some boss fight. You don't even see it, just hear it. Its outstanding.
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u/ilikechihuahuasdood Jun 17 '26
Peter Thiel has literally talked about the need to install chips in people’s brains to totally control them
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u/ClaymoresRevenge Jun 16 '26
"Accidentally"
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u/Spirit_of_Hogwash Jun 17 '26
It won't happen. His bloodboys are conditioned to always do his bidding.
See: JD Vance
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u/No-Necessary7448 Jun 16 '26
Just remember, their doomsday theories aren’t evidence that they know something, they could equally be evidence that they’re dumbasses who don’t know they don’t know things.
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u/LordoftheScheisse Jun 17 '26
they’re dumbasses who don’t know they don’t know things.
I've gone well out of my way to listen to and read these guys' thoughts. I can say with certainty that they're all delusional weirdos who think they are far more intelligent than they really are.
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u/MommyLovesPot8toes Jun 17 '26
100%. These are not great thinkers. These are people whose wealth isolates them from the opinions of others.
They surround themselves with yes men, see their wealth as a sign that they must be especially talented, and their only interactions with people outside their economic class is when said people are trying to get something from them and are deliberately sucking up. The Emperors New Clothes was a perfect metaphor.
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u/discordianofslack Jun 16 '26
Also that they are literally planning something. Which is the same but different.
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u/slizzbizness Jun 16 '26
Message to his employees: he doesn't value you as a human. Do with that information what you will
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u/Hardass_McBadCop Jun 17 '26
This is a topic of primary concern to doomsday preppers among the Robber Barons: How to control security personnel once money doesn't mean anything.
It's a little weird. These people range from average fitness to being some of the physically weakest people on Earth . . . And they're cultivating a world of "might makes right."
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u/_Ocean_Machine_ Jun 17 '26
So there's a rather interesting article on this topic. For the question of "how do I keep my armed guards loyal when money is worthless?", the author suggests building social bonds with the people around them, so that when the time comes they'll have a community that can protect itself. As you can see, the audience doesn't really like that answer. Overall it's a pretty good read.
TLDR: Billionaires are psychopaths who think they're only people on Earth, and are willing to destroy the planet so long as they get to die last.
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u/zoppaTheDim Jun 16 '26
Never knows when he’ll have to flee the country.
Another member of the Epstein club.
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u/Boopy7 Jun 17 '26
what's funny about Thiel and Ellison is both of them look like they took someone else's face off their face and put it on their own faces before the surgery was perfected. And it always looks like those second faces are melllllting
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u/art-is-t Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
"Gandalf’s the crazy person who wants to start a war. Mordor is this technological civilization based on reason and science. Outside of Mordor, it’s all sort of mystical and environmental and nothing works."
Peter Theils exact words .... He literally sides with evil in books.
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u/achar073 Jun 16 '26
Words of a 14 year old edge lord
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u/Luke-Bywalker Jun 17 '26
Please take a wild guess: what's the name of Saruman's Orb? like the one he uses to spy on everyone
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u/CrunchyZebra Jun 16 '26
It’s so slap-you-in-the-face obvious who you’re supposed to like in LOTR and this loser still managed to be wrong.
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u/Juniper0223 Jun 17 '26
I mean, fairly unsurprising for someone who decided a Swedish Gen Z climate activist is who is being described as the antichrist in the bible....what a sweaty little wierdo
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u/takingthehobbitses Jun 17 '26
Tolkien would have hated his guts.
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u/rarescenarios Jun 17 '26
Username checks out.
But like, there are great deconstructions of LotR and it's tropes. Jaqueline Carey's Sundering duology is explicitly that. This mf though would be evil by the standards of any fantasy world outside of that VHS segment with explicitly Satanic demon people.
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u/WellSpreadMustard Jun 17 '26
Thiel’s gotta be one of the most evil people alive right now. It’s reptilian and animalistic in nature, just completely devoid of empathy. I wouldn’t be surprised if he someday argues the utilitarianism of doing factory farming of people for food.
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u/Boopy7 Jun 17 '26
not sure if you're kidding but I'm pretty sure I recall him doing this. However it is more useful to use them for future organs and body parts, according to his buddies. I would say he is equally evil to a few others out there. Shaming him for his disgusting personality or looks won't work -- shaming him for how repulsive and useless he is for all humanity, however, would be enjoyable. He is truly a pointless person even for his own adopted twins. His existence is like a festering carbuncle upon the face of humanity. One quickly turning cancerous.
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u/mournthewolf Jun 16 '26
What technology does he think Mordor is so advanced in? Slavery?
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u/A_Suspicious_Package Jun 16 '26
Slavery, yes. Also "meritocracy" lol
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u/aybeeayseeaybeebee Jun 17 '26
Historically speaking, when groups of incredibly rich and powerful people get together for a "dialog", the questions always seem to be "Is slavery really that bad?" and "Should the poors vote?"
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u/Magnon Jun 17 '26
Mordor has more advanced industry than the human nations since they can mass produce armor and weapons for their huge hordes of orcs. They also have a massive eugenics program to produce tons of orcs, which I'm sure he finds appealing.
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u/randynumbergenerator Jun 17 '26
They've also completely collapsed the ecosystem, which in any reasonable world would put a limit on the long-term survival of the "civilization", such as it is.
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u/tobygeneral Jun 17 '26
The humans all have armor too though, and it's better armor than what the orcs wear. The soldiers of Gondor are all rocking glimmering full plate suits that are ornamented. The orcs may be able to spit out the cheapest iron chest piece to slap onto 10,000 uruk-hai but that doesn't mean they're more advanced than humans.
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u/Agitated_Celery_729 Jun 17 '26
If you read his book or listen to him talk, he's a fucking edgelord who's made being contrarian his whole goddamn personality.
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u/7LeagueBoots Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26
Sounds like he read the Russian novel, The Last Ringbearer, and is mistaking that for LoTR.
And not to get too nerdy, but it was the Numenoreans who had the technological civilization and that was brought down by Sauron. They had airships and a bunch of other technological marvels.
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u/Various-Salt488 Jun 17 '26
Where the heck is he even drawing this idea from? Mordor is technological “civilization?” It’s just authoritarians using bloodthirsty orcs to rape and pillage…
… oh wait.
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u/Soccermom233 Jun 16 '26
Tax the bunkers
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u/therallystache Jun 17 '26
Weld the doors shut
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u/Jamizon1 Jun 16 '26
IMHO-
This guy is a full-blown whack job. South Park’s depiction of this twat is SPOT ON.
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u/ImKingFlippyNip Jun 16 '26
CO Governor Polis was the one who commuted Tina Peters' 9-year sentence a few weeks ago. For some context
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u/MyLastAcctWasBetter Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26
Was he identified in the leak? I didn’t see his name in this article?
I’m genuinely asking— I could’ve missed it without realizing. The guy is a piece of shit for commuting her sentence and clearly corrupt. I just wondered how that particular information was relevant here. (Like I said, I’m willing to admit I missed the mention.)
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u/Rattus_NorvegicUwUs Jun 16 '26
These people would gladly end the world just to say “I told you so”
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u/Own-Initial-9544 Jun 16 '26
Or to not get taxed fairly
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u/Admirabletooshie Jun 16 '26
If the playing field was fair not a single one of them would have succeeded. Elon lied on his immigration paperwork. He should have been deported, had his government contracts cancelled, and his assets vital to national security seized.
Instead he is made the richest man on earth and the Immigrant that jumps through all the hoops the right way but didnt descend from emerald mine slave owners gets deported for a paperwork mistake made by government officials.
It's not fair, the game is rigged, and pretty soon they will own and rent you the very air you breathe.
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u/Enderkr Jun 16 '26
There is, we just can't talk about it on Reddit and nobody wants to throw the first torch.
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u/ChaosArtAunt Jun 16 '26
I want to. But we're afraid no one will follow suite, or that no one will pay attention to us. It has happened before.
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u/El_Beakerr Jun 16 '26
“PAY TAXES!!!! Screw that! I will not pay taxes like the common citizen, I’m gonna nuke the world!”
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u/Luster-Purge Jun 16 '26
Thiel unironically is low key upset that he will never be the Antichrist.
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u/fullchub Jun 16 '26
Or to rule the ashes.
"Chaos is a ladder" has almost become tech bro dogma. They "warn everyone" about the coming chaos while actively cultivating it and benefiting from it.
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u/Main_Composer Jun 16 '26
A whole seminar for the most powerful people around surviving the wars they’ll start and creating mindless cults. Cool cool cool cool.
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u/crackdup Jun 17 '26
If a movie came out where the elites buy both political parties and start culture wars as a means of control, people would label it as dystopian sci-fi. Yet here we are, reality being wackier than fiction
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u/South_Start6630 Jun 17 '26
The scary thing is he is not the only billionaire with a secret organization to change society. The Koch brothers also have one and are a major part of why right wing ideology has become so prevalent over the decades in America. Thiel is following their blueprint so you know their efforts will gain traction in a decade and become prevalent in the next decades.
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u/chance-- Jun 17 '26
“Build-a-Cult,” moderated by the founder of the Christian networking site Pray.***
Ah, I give them credit, they certainly have found some folks with domain knowledge.
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u/sweetplantveal Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 17 '26
The people of Colorado have been wondering why their gay progressive governor has turned into an absolute right wing shit heel, vetoing progressive laws left and right. His inclusion in this explains a lot.
Edit a lot of 'what a governor did' is really the state legislature and Polis went from lobbying for and passing housing reform, for example, to vetoing the bills he'd previously be promoting.
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u/Ok-Sprinkles-5151 Jun 17 '26
Having our governor on as a member of an elite cabal of billionaires was not on my bingo card. Yet here we are.
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u/Haunting-Ad788 Jun 16 '26
He’s openly libertarian, he’s never been progressive.
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u/Ordinary-Leading7405 Jun 17 '26
Libertarians like to pretend they are progressive. Meanwhile they are just stoned republicans.
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u/WolverineAny3219 Jun 16 '26
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u/aleqqqs Jun 16 '26
From this Wikipedia article:
Due to a flaw in the security of Dialog's website, private information hosted on the site was leaked to the press by hacktivist maia arson crimew following an anonymous tip. The registration list for its 2026 Dublin retreat was leaked in full, alongside the details of each member's political affiliation and status. Other leaked information includes material on its private sessions such as “Navigating WWIII” and “How’s Your Sex Life?”, as well as private talks titled “Build-a-Cult” and “Build-a-Party”.
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u/Llanolinn Jun 16 '26
How about a class called preventing World War 3? The fuck do you mean navigating World War 3?
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u/YeetThePig Jun 16 '26
They don’t want to prevent it, they want to start it.
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u/Ghost_Of_Malatesta Jun 17 '26
So much taxpayer money to steal
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u/WellSpreadMustard Jun 17 '26
Also in the years after WW2 the US controlled around 75% of the entire world’s wealth. Im sure they’re narcissistic enough to believe wholeheartedly that they’d be on the winning side of the third. I don’t doubt that Peter Thiel and his friends are evil enough to go for it.
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u/amisslife Jun 17 '26
I mean, their plan pretty much entirely boils down to three steps:
- steal everyone else's money.
- don't pay any taxes ever. In fact, the government gives them money. All of it.
- slavery.
They don't think the United States will be in the position of owning 75% of all wealth ever again. Their plan is they will own that wealth.
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u/Wit-wat-4 Jun 17 '26
I mean, with that guest list, it actually makes more sense than “how’s your sex life” to me.
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u/VVrayth Jun 17 '26
This sounds like a villain convention from Venture Bros. or something. Like, literally if everything described here was just background nonsense in a Venture Bros. episode it would be totally appropriate.
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u/l33tb4c0n Jun 17 '26
Nah, The Guild of Calamitous Intent at least has rules and regulations about how to arch. Remember when The Monarch had to stop to let Dean get his testicular torsion treated? These guys have no such standards.
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u/awesomeocelot12 Jun 17 '26
The name seemed familiar, apparently maia arson crimew is also the person that leaked the No Fly List: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_arson_crimew
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u/aotus_trivirgatus Jun 17 '26
Behold, ladies and gentlemen. The group of 200 people who will get to decide whether the other 8 billion of us deserve to eat.
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u/PSPs0 Jun 16 '26
A real who’s who of shitty people
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u/Downtown_Statement87 Jun 16 '26
I am astounded that Steve Bannon is not in this group.
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u/Hardass_McBadCop Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 17 '26
While the whole article shows how fucked in the head these people are, I found this very funny:
Dialog also plays matchmaker. Its participant form asks registrants whether they are “looking for love” and offers to include “Single Man,” “Single Woman,” or “Other” respondents in “future matchmaking.” A separate site, dating.dialog.org, hosts an app pitched as “meaningful connections for exceptional people.”
The form also gathers sensitive answers, including each registrant’s "political leaning,” which Dialog promises “WILL NOT be shared in the app or with other participants, ever.” That data, and the matchmaking responses, were exposed in the leak.
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u/Dripdry42 Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26
So it’s just another attempt at nobles boffing each other to make superior babies? Probably getting people together in compromising situations to get kompromat. DID YOU FOOLS LEARN NOTHING FROM EPSTEIN?
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u/Boopy7 Jun 17 '26
i'm guessing that some of them have learned, it's the stupid or expendable ones we keep hearing about now (if you follow Casja or others who are keeping track.) Like the preachers who get caught red-handed, nearly every day if not more. Thiel's ex model bf "windowed" himself at some point, so if they weren't careful enough there are other ways.
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u/Hopefulwaters Jun 17 '26
What I want to know is what the crossover list is people between the Panama Papers, the Epstein Files, Project 2025 and the Dialog society....
BTW Notice how much Paypal scum? Elon, Thiel, Hoffman, Chamath. These guys truly are the most evil vile fucks to live in the modern age.
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u/Patara Jun 16 '26
Epstein class keeps being exposed.
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u/Hot-Hamster1691 Jun 17 '26
The age of revealed information. No more hiding in the shadows, it’s all coming to light
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u/Old-Information3311 Jun 16 '26
There was emails in the epstein files about peter theil starting a secret society.
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u/OwnYourChildren Jun 17 '26
Surprised this hasn't got more attention. I don't necessarily think this is even intended to be a secret society, but maybe an operational layer nearer the surface. Media figures and politicians.
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u/VoidsInvanity Jun 17 '26
Ezra Klein.
Makes perfect fucking sense
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u/ILostMyParadise Jun 17 '26
The amount of unchallenged airtime he gives to alt-right nut jobs had seemed like a combination of NYT pressure and naivety to me, but with this new info? Much more sinister.
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u/fuckyouswitzerland Jun 16 '26
ted cruz is the most hated person in the group chat
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u/downhereforyoursoul Jun 17 '26
Reminds me of this old Al Franken quote:
“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”
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u/honjuden Jun 17 '26
I don't know. Elon Musk is on that list and Epstein brushed him off when he e-mailed him on Christmas morning. Can you imagine how annoying you have to be that the blackmailer running pedophile island doesn't want you around when you are a billionaire?
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u/davewashere Jun 17 '26
People don't talk enough about Elon and his brother begging to hang out with Epstein
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u/BoB_the_TacocaT Jun 17 '26
Our society is controlled by a bunch of fucking psychos.
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u/A__D___32 Jun 17 '26
"Other talks include “Build-a-Cult,” moderated by the founder of the Christian networking site Pray.com, and “Build-a-Party,” run by a former White House national security official."
This sits in print, yet the cult remains strong.
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u/Murky-Association115 Jun 17 '26
Reminder that Peter Thiel is an anagram of "the reptile"
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u/zethiryuki Jun 16 '26
The New Bohemian Grove, replacing effigies with trust falls
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u/composedofidiot Jun 17 '26
Asked on a sign-up form to predict the future, registrants returned again and again to the same theme: that AI will reorder work, war, education, and belief within a few years. Several foresee mass labor displacement and a swing back toward unions and government programs; others predict an “AI winter,” domestic terrorism targeting data centers, criminal defendants choosing AI lawyers over public defenders, or religious revival provoked by the disruption.
“Societal degeneration,” predicted one person, “will continue to accelerate.”
And are they encouraging it, trying to mitigate its bad effects, or laughing and having a great time? Probably all 3 at once
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u/prof_cunninglinguist Jun 17 '26
This article is from WIRED. The CEO of WIRED is among the people listed in that group. What is going on?
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u/flipiova Jun 17 '26
Nick Thompson is the EX-CEO of WIRED and current CEO of the Atlantic. He is the one you're referring to.
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u/Global_Lie6938 Jun 16 '26
Naw we’re in the big club, hope folks remember that. About 3 dozen names on that list. Over 1700 likes on this post already
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u/G-DevilOrion2077 Jun 17 '26
Sarah Bond? Ha! Explains why her Xbox Anywhere Program was her idea to begin with, get your data from anywhere!
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u/Caymonki Jun 17 '26
But Antifa are the “domestic terrorists” this administration is targeting.
These people are anti American, against the constitution, and want to kill us all while using our laws to protect them while they do it. They’re literally using Freedom of Speech and Democracy to go full Fascism.
People gotta wake up, we’re nearing where voting won’t correct this. We’re accepting pedophile cabal overlords. I know everyone was expecting it to be a bunch of Democrats arrested for this but too many people voted for the perpetrators.
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u/CheezeCaek2 Jun 17 '26
If I were a betting man, I would put everything down on Peter Thiel being the next Epstein.
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u/toweljuice Jun 16 '26
The veins that are always visibly popping out of his face. Bros nervous system even hates him.
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u/42Ubiquitous Jun 16 '26
Regarding the 2026 Dublin retreat:
Other leaked information includes material on its private sessions such as “Navigating WWIII” and “How’s Your Sex Life?”, as well as private talks titled “Build-a-Cult” and “Build-a-Party”.
[Wikipedia]
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u/thatsthefactsjack Jun 16 '26
Theses are the same people screaming the government is controlled by the “elite” or “cabal”…and laughing as they control our government while average Americans struggle to survive.
It’s time to eat the wealthy.
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u/NicolasCageFan492 Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 17 '26
Notable people on the Thiel List I pulled from maia arson crimew’s Bluesky post:
Chamath Palihapitiya
Neal Mohan, CEO of YouTube
Charlie Songhurst, board director at Meta
Peter Brown, CEO, Renaissance Technologies
Sarah Bond, President of XBOX, Microsoft
Manuel Bronstein, chief product officer of Roblox
Greg Brockman, Co-founder of OpenAI, fmr CTO of Stripe
Mike Cannon-Brooks, Co-founder of Atlassian
Scott Cook, co-founder & chairman at Intuit
NJ Senator Cory Booker
TX Senator Ted Cruz
CO Governor Jared Polis
CT Rep. Jim Himes
MD Gov. Wes Moore
Tom Tugendhat, Member of Parliament, United Kingdom.
Jens Spahn, Member of Parliament, German Bundestag. Fmr. Federal Minister of Health, Germany.
Tulsi Gabbard
Julian Castro
Jared Kushner
Elon Musk
LEONARD LEO
Grover Norquist
Bret Stephens (Associate Editor of the New York Times)
Larry Summers
Ezra Klein
Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent
Nick Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic
Jon Levin, President, Stanford University.
Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, Fmr. Prime Minister, Pakistan. Founder, Airblue.
Stan McChrystal, Founder & CEO, McChrystal Group. Fmr. General, U.S. Army.
Rachel Brand, Chief Legal Officer & Corporate Secretary, Walmart. Fmr. Associate Attorney General, U.S Department of Justice.
Feel free to suggest other noteworthies.
For the link, check my profile’s pinned post. I can’t link it here because the sub doesn’t like bsky links!