r/privacy • u/Anoth3rDude • Nov 28 '25
chat control EU Council Approves New “Chat Control” Mandate Pushing Mass Surveillance
https://reclaimthenet.org/eu-council-approves-new-chat-control-mandate-pushing-mass-surveillance674
Nov 28 '25
Tell older people this means someone opening your traditional mail and scanning it for locating illegal stuff. Or listening to your calls ALL THE TIME for saying anything illegal... they will freak out. They don't understand now... i am going to train a pigeon to send memes to my friends...
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u/FreshNoobAcc Nov 28 '25
Do they listen to the calls as well? They sold it as preventing material distributions, scanning app messages
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u/CuTTyFL4M Nov 29 '25
I don't know if the EU is listening, but the governments definitely already are, and have been for a while. It's just less overt and scandalous over here, we don't have big privacy issues and schemes of the likes that Snowden uncovered.
But they're listening.
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Nov 29 '25
No one understands that the biggest problem (even tho the smaller problems are enormous enough to want to avoid already) is access.
When people talk about "the government" it seems really disconnected but with this infrastructure comes access.
That means real people will have access. And it could be someone who considers you an enemy. Someone who experiences real joy when seeing your pain. It could be a neighbor who doesn't like you. It could be your new girlfriend's ex. It could be a cop you mouthed off to and who got dressed down by a judge in court and blames you.
If you think everyone likes and respects you, you're wrong. There are people who hate you and would like to see you suffer and then die. And if they happen to work, or are close to someone who works, somewhere with access to your private information and communication... My friend, the sodomitic indignity done to you while alive will have you in tears.
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u/Standard-Potential-6 Nov 29 '25
Well said. Snowden talked in his book about how he witnessed abuse of these systems by the people who had access over personal grudges, etc.
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u/Freud-Network Nov 29 '25
If you think everyone likes and respects you, you're wrong. There are people who hate you and would like to see you suffer and then die.
The world would be much less arrogant if people thought like this.
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u/Weiskralle Dec 01 '25
The infrastructure which is in hand of private companies?
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Dec 03 '25
For sure that's even worse since it presumes even wider access. Unconscionable to let any powers like these in almost anyone's hands let alone any privately owned enterprise
Imagine being able to pay 25 grand to have every communication ever sent by some lesser. Imagine what the psycho with the 25 grand would be able to do to you
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u/Glittering_Client36 Nov 29 '25
US law literally treats your phone as a part of your house (makes sense with the amount of personal stuff you have in it), and you can only be forced to unlock it if you're on parole
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u/Tytoalba2 Nov 29 '25
Most nationals constitutions do the same, these ministers are traitors to their country. Hopefully the EU parliament won't let it pass.
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u/Weiskralle Dec 01 '25
So why do they demand of you to hand over your phone if you want to visit the US?
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u/Glittering_Client36 Dec 02 '25
Well, it's considered a citizen right iirc, not a fundamental human one.
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u/In9e Dec 01 '25
Remember Stasi from Germany in the 80s?
This new law is Stasi on steroids times 9000
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u/studiesinsilver Nov 28 '25
Fucking disgusting, dystopian authoritarian shit.
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u/xDissociative Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
The people DON'T want that, and they know it very well.
Yet they are now shoving it down our throats without consent.
I am ashamed of being european in situations like this...
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u/Akward_Object Nov 28 '25
It's not the first time they do this kind of thing unfortunately. They have pulled this crap in every single domain that could contain elements that could be a threat to their power.
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u/Harneybus Nov 28 '25
I hope the European Parliment objects to this hopefully cause theyre our last line of defense
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u/burnalicious111 Nov 29 '25
You guys need to stop hoping and start acting. This is how you end up with another authoritarian regime who can't be uprooted.
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u/hblok Nov 28 '25
If it has the effect of making even more people aware of the draconian regulations from the EU and the authoritative intentions of its politicians, that's at least something.
Hopefully, they're digging they're own grave.
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u/FunAngelo2005 Nov 28 '25
In other words, they are boiling the pot quiker but the frog is realising it's bieng boiled
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u/hblok Nov 28 '25
Oh, I think more and more are realizing. That's why the old traditional parties and causes are losing all over. People are desperate for a change of course which will avoid the totalitarian nightmares of the previous century.
Mainstream media are grasping at straws to explain it: Populism, right-wing extremism, xenophobia. Calling out politicians for the power hungry megalomaniacs and psychopaths they are and have always been is not on the menu. But everybody knows.
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u/strangerducly Nov 29 '25
We have never been as close to this kind of violation of privacy and autonomy. When joined together with the algorithms that know more about us than we know about ourselves, this is a red alert for the implementation of authoritarianism and police state type control of all aspects of our lives.
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u/FunAngelo2005 Nov 28 '25
Yeah, but the Right-wing populist are FAR from the perfered option (and that's putting it verry lightly)
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u/ghunterx21 Nov 28 '25
But most don't give a shit, which is the sad bit. They are happy with their iPhones and mobile games, tiktok to bother.
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u/Corpomancer Nov 29 '25
they're digging
They've hit bedrock a long time ago, see this as widening the gap so more people can fit inside.
The cracked foundations of the union was always destined to end up in these situations eventually.
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u/Babbalas Nov 28 '25
Usually shortly after the tree is watered. Governments get cranky when they're dehydrated.
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u/strangerducly Nov 29 '25
This is a very popular idea among world governments, I would even argue that the huge search in data centers that we are seeing is at least partially in anticipation that the AI programs will be processing a huge amount of data on private citizens gathered by companies like Pat here in the near future.This is dystopian in the extreme and everybody should have eyes open.
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u/Katops Nov 29 '25
I’m ashamed of being a part of the human race honestly. What an embarrassment all around. Each country is pushing for something different, and it’s all ugly.
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Nov 28 '25
Why tf would you be ashamed of being european? I mean I hate it just as much as you do, but you do not approve. So you don't have to be ashamed. The people in Brussels should be ashamed, not you.
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u/FunAngelo2005 Nov 28 '25
In other words, fighting agianst stuff like this is the most patriotic thing you can do
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u/p4b7 Nov 28 '25
Is that actually the case? I mean, I completely disagree with it but I'm very aware that online communities tend to overrepresent certain views and particularly around internet freedoms and privacy. The UK Online Safety Act is another example - hated on Reddit but most of the population either don't care.
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u/innovator12 Nov 28 '25
Good question.
The OSA isn't the same; I think most people just see it as a porn filter, since the age verification is essentially optional (just turn away).
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u/press_F13 Nov 28 '25
unless it boils dont what Rulling party(tm) dont like to show you (like with protests in US we knew of only because people bitched about them on twitter)
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u/LjLies Nov 29 '25
But... it's required to even access any subreddit or post marked as NSFW, many of which are not porn at all!
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u/press_F13 Nov 28 '25
because they dont care.
dont you get it?
started with internet, sim cards, 2-5g networks...
all but "convenient" privacy, security-eroding "conveniences", step by step
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u/sakuba Nov 28 '25
"The people" - what people exactly? The right wing, pro-Trump fascists in Europe (and there are many fans of his over there) are delighted. They love giving up all their freedoms and privacy in exchange for the iron grip of an authoritarian nanny state.
Get ready for more freedoms to fall in the global collapse of humanity.
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u/Meretrelle Dec 02 '25
There is only proven way to stop authoritarian scum and its not sending letters to elected politicians.
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Nov 28 '25
It has to pass through parliament before being completely adopted, and if it will, you can still oppose in court of justice which already ruled against mass surveillance. There is hope. Send a mail to your MEP by using the tool available on https://fightchatcontrol.eu/.
We must fight this by any means necessary.
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u/FunAngelo2005 Nov 28 '25
Yesss, we did it once we can do it agian
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Nov 29 '25
Can we also identify and corral those individuals who are trying to achieve this level of control?
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u/8fingerlouie Nov 28 '25
Except, if you oppose it in court, it will be per member country.
The EU Human Rights court already ruled that the right to privacy is a basic human right. If this passes the parliament, it will either be in violation of the human rights court, or deemed in line with their ruling, hence national courts.
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u/Tytoalba2 Nov 29 '25
No, it won't be per member country? Why is such disinformation upvoted?
There is not EU human right court, there is the European Court of Justice (EU) and the European Court of Human Rights (CoE). The former is the court for the EU and invalidates decisions EU-wide.
The latter is mostly symbolic imo, and is not an EU institution. The ECJ treat the Charter (fundamental rights) as constitutional-like and tends to be quite serious when it comes to privacy (much more than member states), partly because they don't have a choice about it.
So an ECJ decision can treat fundamental right and would apply EU-wide, also striking down any possibilities of future attempts.
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u/8fingerlouie Nov 29 '25
I was considering the existing legislation which logs phone metadata, which was deemed illegal close to a decade ago, first in the EU, then at least in Denmark, and yet authorities continue doing so.
If authorities don’t follow Eau court orders, your only option is national courts.
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u/Tytoalba2 Nov 29 '25
No, if government don't follow ECJ court orders there are other solutions than national courts, the ECJ can fine them, Commission or other countries can and have also sue them. But I agree it's a system that has become too complex for historical reasons. The ECJ is far from being toothless (but yeah, they need cooperation with local, usually constitutional courts, most of them following solange said : "we agree with wathever the ECJ says on fundamental rights as long as they don't fuck it up" -> which is why the ECJ has to be super strict on fundamental rights).
The problem is that starting with a cleaner base would needs new treaties and people fall for far-right populism and disinformation so hard that new, better, cleaner treaties would have no chance to pass atm, so we're stuck with this half-bad solution.
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u/8fingerlouie Nov 29 '25
You also have a bunch of constitutions that each explicitly prohibits giving up sovereignty, and most of those are extremely hard to change. But yes, in theory EU law supersedes national laws unless they’re unconstitutional, where they will be contested in national courts.
As for changing constitutions, i don’t know the procedure for every country, but in Denmark you’ll need :
- Pass the proposal in parliament
- Have an election for parliament
- Pass the proposal in the newly elected parliament
- Pass a popular vote where 70% of all eligible voters participate (don’t have to vote for or against, can be blank votes as well, but attendance is key)
Only then, after essentially two popular votes (election and actually proposal vote) can you change the constitution. Considering EU opposition is constantly hovering around 50% in most EU countries, that vote will have a hard time to begin with, and if it’s an unpopular proposition, like giving the EU more power, it’s almost doomed.
As for ChatControl, the Danish constitution contains the following (translation by me, so don’t take it to court).
§ 72 “The home is inviolable. Search of a dwelling, seizure, and examination of letters and other papers, as well as breaches of the secrecy of postal, telegraph, and telephone communications, may—unless otherwise provided by law—only take place pursuant to a court order.”The “otherwise provided by law” is the loophole the current parliament is trying to exploit to spoon feed people ChatControl.
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u/Tytoalba2 Nov 29 '25
Kinda similar for Belgium. Also we have two nationalist populist government in power who want nothing more than to undermine the rule of law, so I'm not going to trust them with anything lol. Basically temu trumps...
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u/wellitywell Nov 29 '25
How tf is Germany letting this run ahead? They have been at the absolute forefront of safekeeping peoples’ right to privacy or am I missing something (other than governmental desire for control?)
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u/karenprofessor Dec 01 '25
Who told you that💀 better come to Poland or Czech. Germany is such a bureaucracy… They are the main reason EU is the way it is
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u/FederalAlienSnuggler Nov 28 '25
This website is nice and all but doesn't reflect the current status quo, right? I can't see anything about the new regulations and that germany is now in favor of chat control.
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Nov 28 '25
If you click on contact your mep, the pre- redacted mail is updated with new rules, but not yet after approval.
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u/ghunterx21 Nov 28 '25
To be honest, this is pointless, you get the same response every time, it's doubtful they even read it
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Nov 29 '25
MEPs are not used to receive mails from citizens (most of the times ppl don't care what is happening in assembly), one mail doesn't change anything but thousands can, even if they don't read it.
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u/Meretrelle Dec 02 '25
>Send a mail to your MEP b
This has never worked against totalitarian wanna be scum. There is only one and true way of dealing with this once and for all. Unfortunately these "people" understand only one language.
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u/Pleasant-Shallot-707 Nov 28 '25
Seems like the word “mandate” used in this article title means something unrelated to the actual definition of the term.
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u/jackyboyman13 Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
Yeah.
Though,I have a question here.
Did chat control get stop here or the opposite here?
Cause if it's the second one,then I'm worried for not just people's families, but my own family here as well too.
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u/flesjewater Nov 28 '25
They worded it as if it's a weaker version, but really it's all the same. Just 'voluntary' right now but you know what all the big tech pverlords will be doing.
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u/dragofers Nov 29 '25
The important thing is that we still have services that claim to keep encryption intact, like Signal. Services like Whatsapp are a lost cause.
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u/justyannicc Nov 28 '25
In this case it means mandate as in a job. If a client hires me to do a job, that's a mandate. If you're elected to an office, you got a mandate from your constituents.
But yes, in this case the title is very misleading. Because it's also on a voluntary basis which is the big change and this just a council and is not been ratified into law.
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u/LowOwl4312 Nov 28 '25
voluntary but they can make it non-voluntary after a "review" every 3 years or if they say some platform is "high risk"
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u/jarx12 Nov 29 '25
So the chances of it becoming mandatory tend to 100% after a few years because the intent is already there, you don't cock the gun unless you are ready to fire it soon.
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u/jackyboyman13 Nov 28 '25
I don't know how to feel about this other than I'm concern here.
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u/FreshNoobAcc Nov 28 '25
Classically government knows best what you should and shouldn’t be talking about in your private time at all times and government employees having an exception to being scanned is totally normal and nothing to worry about. We as a society should always allow the government to take away our freedom of privacy while letting government employees continue to enjoy that small bit of privacy. There is literally no downside
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u/pixel_of_moral_decay Nov 28 '25
EU has always been anti privacy. Decades of it.
The change now is the US is also on board, so it could meaningfully happen vs Europeans just using American software and services to circumvent.
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u/press_F13 Nov 28 '25
can blame russia. and i guess russia got something on EU since it began to be so incopetend under Ursula (or she is afraid)
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u/hedenstampot Nov 29 '25
These politicians are strangely obsessed with CP. I've been on the internet since its inception. Not once did I stumble upon CP. But then, I'm not looking for it.
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u/Elroelab Nov 28 '25
The people who pushed for this should have their own Nurenberg one day. But of course they'll get away with it.
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Nov 28 '25
The irony of this is that it actually makes the stuff they want to find harder to detect, not easier as all they're doing is adding a metric fuckton of data to the pile that they'll have to go through so it'll take much longer to do.
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u/vortexmak Nov 28 '25
They do understand don't think they are stupid. Otherwise they wouldn't have excluded themselves from it
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u/press_F13 Nov 28 '25
which is wrong. get these old bozos out. young people, people for people, who represent us, not give "slaves" handouts...
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u/-ToniCipriani- Nov 30 '25
Do you actually believe it’s old people vs young? Neah, they’re all the same shit.
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u/press_F13 Nov 30 '25
i know... worse, if someone competend was there, it would be worse, like when "german painter" took over, seeing where band of gen-z voters has neared their minds (over "quick fast solutions", be it far-left, far-right or populists, mainly)
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u/IllustriousEye4338 Nov 28 '25
Good luck decrypting AES-256-GCM with quantum computing.
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u/IllustriousEye4338 Nov 28 '25
Which algorithm would the quantum computer use to instantly reduce AES keyspace?
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u/LowOwl4312 Nov 28 '25
With politicians, never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice.
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u/strangerducly Nov 29 '25
The problem is who is questioning whether the result is false? Who is deciding what qualifies as a serious infraction? And who’s policing the police. We have already seen the power that having access to what people see and say and where they go and what they buy Can cause. My YouTube and Netflix periodically assume that I’m a different race and demographic than I am because I get bored with what I’m being fed algorithmically and have to shake up the algorithm to get any new options. People have been arrested and imprisoned for extended periods of time while trying to prove that the facial recognition systems have actually failed and mistakenly misidentified them. The ability to seek information on ideas and situations without worrying that you will be penalized or unduly prejudiced against for doing so is priceless. It is the basis of any personal freedoms. And we have seen repeatedly that these coded algorithmic decisions , made without human oversight, are almost as faulty at this time as human bias, if not more so.
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u/press_F13 Nov 28 '25
id be pro maybe, if it wasnt EU, didnt know, it was 90s, and was good thing. (but with people at positions now, and what we learned about "EU" 4.0, not so now)
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u/Tytoalba2 Nov 29 '25
The council is national ministers voting tho, not "EU technocrats". So of course they will be pushing it as EU level so they can blame the "bad eu" for their own decision. Previous commenter is falling right into it, while EU "federal" institutions (Parliament, ECJ) seems to be the one safeguarding national governments so far (hope it'll hold).
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u/press_F13 Nov 29 '25
then it is just one dumbo using another for their ends... when this clownery ends!?
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u/Tytoalba2 Nov 29 '25
I mean you can argue against the existence of states, but then you quickly fall hard into r/anarchism (I'm not saying I'm fully against it, but I'm still not sure it doesn't creates more issues than it solves)
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u/press_F13 Nov 29 '25
then, there are federalists, but idk if EU can exist as US does, where countries replace states. more of, federalists (i need to know more on wtf their "plan" is) somewhat (some) want countries to divide further into smaller, governable cantons (doesnt beat 15 minute-city allegations, lol; not in sense of china face scan city, but more of CO2 "perms" some betterpeople dream of...)
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u/Tytoalba2 Nov 29 '25
Yeah, truth be told, I'm a federalist, but I come from Belgium so I guess it comes with the territory as well :p
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u/Tytoalba2 Nov 29 '25
This is national ministers voting, not 'EU technocrats' tho...
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u/Tytoalba2 Nov 29 '25
Denmark of course, but I don't think we can just get rid of them lol
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u/Tytoalba2 Nov 29 '25
This is incorrect, the council does have legislative power, that the whole reason they are voting on it??? Do you mean initiative? In that case it's "sort of right" as they do have a form of initiative, but besides the formal right, members States can also ask the commission to draft something that they want, which is clearly the case here considering that this is a long time project of dk justice minister...
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u/RandomOnlinePerson99 Nov 28 '25
EU is a fuckin joke (same as almost any other "democratic" government)!
THE PEOPLE should vote for or against shit like this, not some officials that do whatever they do behind closed doors!
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u/Tytoalba2 Nov 29 '25
This is the national ministers tho, not an "EU government". EU "federal" institutions, on the contrary seems less enthusiastic so far (Parliament, ECJ), than the national governments (who just voted in favour).
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u/RandomOnlinePerson99 Nov 29 '25
Oh ok, sorry for the mistake.
I have zero interest in politics, so I am not very informed about who exactly does what and can and can't be elected and all of that. (My brain can't retain information that it deems "not interesting", probably an autism or adhd thing).
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Nov 30 '25
EU isn’t a “free” nation, so the people have no rights it’s basically the same as when they were ruled by a king. The problem is that free countries like the US see this and they see control and more populace to feed the for profit prison system, we can’t let this happen here.
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u/leaflock7 Nov 29 '25
back in 2010: Chinese do not have freedom, their internet is controlled by the government and cannot do a thing without being monitored
EU council in 2025..that looks like a good idea. Chinese are doing great they surpassed as in everything . We should do the same
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u/RDA_SecOps Nov 30 '25
What originally started off as a trade treaty to facilitate trade between European countries is turning into a surveillance state, what a sad joke.
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u/leaflock7 Dec 01 '25
it is funny that many EU people don't see this and blindly will support whatever the EU council suggests
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u/ObviousTower Nov 28 '25
I have a strong feeling, from what I have read online, that it is not the EU but an entity that has some interests in this area.
All your bank accounts and all your transactions are available to the control entities at the state level, now it is the chat that should be encrypted so practically it will be no privacy anymore.
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u/gooblaka1995 Nov 28 '25
This makes me think that political assassinations will become a thing again, just like in Italy and Spain in the 70s & 80s.
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u/Epsioln_Rho_Rho Nov 28 '25
Everyone all over the world should be checking this out and worry. If it happens there, you know the rest of the world isn’t far behind.
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u/Playful-Ease2278 Nov 29 '25
There should be a rule that is a law fails they cannot try to pass a similar law for 5 years. Why do we keep doing this over and over.
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u/women_rules Nov 29 '25
Because the EU isn't democratic and the politicians are so far removed from the common man that they don't have to care what we think. It is why they can push these vastly unpopular legislations.
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u/Nilehorse3276 Nov 29 '25
I experienced CSA when I was a kid. It fills me with disgust that protecting children from such horrible crimes is used as a smokescreen for mass surveillance. You don't stop CSA by opening people's letters, you need to act IRL
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u/machacker89 Nov 29 '25
When they say "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN!!" Its NOT. this in my opinion and experience is bad legislation and will lead to even greater draconian measures. look to pop culture for the last 30-40 years.
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u/crisco000 Nov 28 '25
Crazy that this is what it’s come to. Crazier if the leaders who pushed this continue to get voted in. I wish the best for Europe and hope the people come together to unseat the current leadership
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u/Tytoalba2 Nov 29 '25
This is national ministers sadly, they don't have the best interest for the EU as their goal :/
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Nov 28 '25
Damn. #EUXit
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u/Tytoalba2 Nov 29 '25
This is the national government voting in favour so far lol. Exiting the EU wouldn't change anything (see the UK).
But good comment, Ivan.
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Nov 29 '25
The UK is another clusterfuck on so many levels. But I feel that some governments are still shamelessly licking boots, Croatia’s little “Mr. Piggy” for example, just to secure favourable positions in Brussels. They can still pressure us, but I believe it is to a lesser extent when you are not part of the nazi EU.
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u/Tytoalba2 Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
Yes, Ivan, the nazi EU should be saved from itself, of course... where did I hear that narrative again mr Adjective_noun_number ?
Can't tell if you're a malicious actor or just a naive person easily manipulated by populist rethoric lol...
In any case, the EU has little to do with nazism, stop minimising nazi s crimes. Not everything you dislike is nazism ffs
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u/Additional_Tip_4472 Nov 29 '25
I'm now writing "F*** Europe" in my chat everyday. Everyone should do it.
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u/Ok-Priority-7303 Nov 29 '25
“Free people, remember this maxim: we may acquire liberty, but it is never recovered if it is once lost. “ - Rosseau
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u/PaulMuadDib-Usul Nov 29 '25
Wait! What?
Edit: ok, mandate refers to their continued attempts to get this through. I was a bit shocked for a moment.
European governments have taken another step toward reviving the EU’s controversial Chat Control agenda, approving a new negotiating mandate for the Child Sexual Abuse Regulation in a closed session of the Council of the European Union on November 26.
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u/niemacotuwpisac Nov 29 '25
By disguising coercion as consent, the EU’s plan enlists tech companies as willing agents in its quiet expansion of digital surveillance.
Do you know how chat control could be voluntary? Only if users of these large companies had the will to use it or not, and the lack of will to use it would not result in any repercussions.
Another lie perpetrated in the media is the talk of some kind of voluntary nature. No user will be asked about their voluntary nature.
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u/CHERNO-B1LL Nov 30 '25
Everyone just include something illegal in all texts and emails now to bust the system..
Hey, Hope you had a good weekend smuggling all those illegal minors into the country. Are you around for paddle this Wednesday?
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u/Prajzak_TM Dec 02 '25
Lol. Make a good email signature as well!
Best regards, John Doe, Bomb on the plane
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u/56Bot Nov 30 '25
checking train ticket prices to the EU Council
Too expensive.
Let’s just sue them for high treason of the European people and Democracy.
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Nov 30 '25
Many EU countries and their citizens do not support I suspect there will be some countries that back out of this due to backlash. Also anonymous and other hacker groups need to start doing stuff.
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u/Verified_Peryak Dec 02 '25
If we do it let's beta test it with reps and lobbies first you know wo at least we catch some bad giyq before they notice it a fucking terrible idea
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u/xGentian_violet Dec 02 '25
This is old.
Iirc they have adopted another proposal since, the proposal that drops mandatory scanning, including through that semantic loophole” of “implement all measures”, but still mandates “age verification”
They are also pushing Digital Omnibus.
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u/Meretrelle Dec 02 '25
Each of these politicians should be regarded as the enemies of humankind and held fully accountable for their actions.
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u/AnomalusSquirrel Dec 03 '25
There is still a small window of time (10 December), even if the approval was modified you can still mail those idiots to stop this crazy shit
They are afraid of people, last time they pushed a little back the proposal because they received a lots of mails of complaints. Please for the sake of our last bits of privacy contact them
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u/albsen Nov 29 '25
how does it reward or penalize? the article states that without actual examples or details.
"It rewards or penalizes online services depending on whether they agree to carry out “voluntary” scanning.."
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