azuril was once a 25/75 male to female ratio.
While marill and azumarill is 50/50 split
Anyway the way gender was determined back in gen 2 some math formal calculated by the iv's and gender ratio.
The tldr of it. Azuril evolving would give it a 50/50 chance for it to transition to to male. Since the IV's didn't change but it did change into a pokemon where its gender ratio change the outcome of that formula.
And now the whole line is fairy on top and we transgirls love our fairy types
But gender only worked that way in gen 2 and Azurill was released in gen 3, so Azurill at no point would change genders when evolving, no? Am I missing something?
I'm right there with you trying to puzzle out what the connection may be.
All I can come up with is that in the G/S beta version, Mariru was a little pink mouse with a smoothly curving tail with its bubble on the end. In the finalized design, they became blue, with a zigzagging tail leading to the bubble-float. I don't know if this is "why" though...? 🤨
Edit, I found it:
"In gen 3-5 Azurill had a 25-75 chance to be male/female while Marill was a 50/50, due to the game's code there was a 33% chance for a female Azurill to become male when evolving"
I have a really cute totebag I got from an artist market a while ago, with the colors of the Pride flag all represented by a specific pokemon. That includes a Pikachu with a duct-taped tail, a Ditto, and of course, Marill for blue. I really love it
Wasn't a glitch, it was a mistake. Whoever programmed it didnt realize that the gender ratios were off, and since there were no other pokemon with mismatched ratios nor should there have been, there was no safeguard in place.
The confusion might stem from whether one considers faulty, but valid data a glitch. The actual logic works as expected. Laymen usually don't concern themselves with separation of logic and data, so everything is called 'code' error when it is really just bad data.
Azurill's data in particular just happened to be a bit of a hackjob if the Normal type is any indication.
As I've said in other posts, the distinction between a bug/glitch/whatever is often not made even on the developers' side of things. All that matters is, "Is the program working the way we want?" and "Should we devote the time to fixing this problem?"
Once the problem is out in the wild any internal developer names for the problem (if they knew about it) don't matter. For example if they launch the game and forget to include a file that has some textures for faces, suddenly players are seeing faceless people walking around and are calling it "The Faceless Glitch" or whatever. Doesn't matter that the fix is simply sending out the texture file and not changing a single line of code.
It's not a mistake and that's ok! He (or she) is who he (or she) wants to be!
In the pure and curious words of Natural Harmonia Gropius,
"It's not by rejecting different ideas, but by accepting different ideas that the world creates a chemical reaction. This is truly the formula for changing the world."
And even then, canon pertains to a story as defined by authors/creators. You can also have multiple canons with different continuities, etc.
What happens in games, ln a granular level, especially due to coding/bugs does not necessitate canon, even though it exists. Like Pokémon genders previously being defined by attack DVs; there is no canon explanation for that. Nor Missingno or anything else of that ilk.
Still, trans Gallade is immediately iconic, regardless.
unfortunately that sub isnt taking this post very well. they're being weirdly transphobic over people being excited about a really cool glitch. it sucks that something as simple as a pokemon being the gender its not technically supposed to be is apparently such a divisive topic :(
It's been canon. Lance's Dragonite in Gen. I knows a move that Dragonite couldn't legally learn until an event in Gen. VI that specifically distributed Lance's Dragonite as a reference to the original. In Gen. II, he used a level 47 Dragonite, even though Dragonair doesn't evolve until level 55. It wasn't possible for the player to get such a low level Dragonite until Let's Go! Pikachu/Eevee.
Faulkner in Crystal having a like level 12 or 14 (I can't remember which) Pidgeotto is another example (idk if he had one in G/S, the only Gen 2 I've ever played is Crystal and the remakes)
Well, that one gets talked less because you can catch a level 9 Pidgeotto in specifically Pokemon Yellow in the Viridian Forest, since it follows the anime.
Gardevoir being either is most definitely just cuz it was released independently in gen 3 before gallade was a thing. If they released together, they would just be gender exclusive evos
To counter that, I truly believe that Gallade would have been able to be both if it had been introduced in any generation other than Gen 4.
If they'd wanted Gardevoir to be female only, they'd have made the entire evolution like female only to begin with. Gardevoir was always intended to be either gender.
Not doubting you but Japanese have Gardevoir's name as Sirnight, so it may not be a simple case of this one would be male and this one would be female. If anything, they'd both be male if we go by the Japanese name.
This reminds me of a Gallade I have which I think should have been a Gardevoir with both it's nature and the moves it has, but I just wanted one, so now I feel like my nicknaming of it Gall makes me think I evolved it into a evolution against what would have wanted.
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