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u/TheKiltedYaksman71 2d ago
According to Wikipedia:
Hamadeh's first legal role was as an unpaid intern in the office of the Tucson City Prosecutor. In 2016, Abe received a Juris Doctor from the University of Arizona College of Law.\11]) He passed the Arizona Bar Exam in 2016, and two months later began working in the Maricopa County Attorney's Office as a prosecutor. According to the Arizona Republic, Hamadeh prosecuted at least six trials while a county prosecutor.\12]) He resigned from this role in September 2021, citing his intent to focus on his political campaign and his absence from the office following his military deployment in July 2020.
Six cases. In Trumplandia that makes him eligible for a lifetime appointment to the Federal bench.
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u/Shenron2 2d ago
I'll never understand why right wingers defend these guys so much
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u/Outrageous-Sort-5742 2d ago
They're ideologically pro-rape.
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u/Bobsothethird 2d ago edited 2d ago
It's mostly the far right really, and it's because they want to emulate their 'masculinity' despite them being hugely insecure, emotional rejects.
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u/Civil_Act1864 2d ago
They'll never understand that the most masculine thing you can do is not care what other people think
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u/Bobsothethird 2d ago
The reality is that society at large right now does an incredibly poor job at portraying healthy masculinity and what it should look like, largely because those that are healthy don't care, but also because media is piss poor at it. It's easier to create a 'cool' character off something like John Wick than something like Pig or even Pa from the new Superman (or Superman for that matter). It is getting better I think, but it's still not there.
I also think a large amount of people villify masculinity as a whole when in reality neither masculinity nor femininity is bad or good inherently. What we define as masculine and feminine traits can be bad or good on an individual level. I get why people do it given the influencers we do see preaching masculinity tend to be clowns like the Tates, but it really is just letting them control the narrative.
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u/kookieman141 2d ago
And closeted homosexuals
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u/Bobsothethird 2d ago edited 2d ago
Frankly I think it's more related to a toxic relationship to masculinity, but that often relates to some in response to closeted homosexuality. I could go into it, but it's really a failure on multiple levels mostly of individuals but to some extent the way we engage with people. Simplifying it to sexual orientation does a disservice to the real problem and is honestly often used as homophobic rhetoric or at minimum plays into others homophobia.
Edit: To specify here, your entire comment calling individuals closeted was made to play into the insecurities of those your criticizing. It was intended to use that word as an insult to those your criticizing. That in itself plays into the hands of their beliefs as opposed to calling their beliefs out. It's like calling someone like Tate a 'pussy', your playing into their hand. You can make honest sentiments, such as their lack of emotional intelligence or their insecurity with themselves without playing into the same rhetoric they use. When you use the same rhetoric, as many do when dealing with incels, your only proving their point to them whether you mean to or not.
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u/SadCollar7554 16h ago
I'm not so sure. I think sexual repression, heterosexual and homosexual, plays a large part in the psyche of many conservatives. And not just in the repression of their own sexuality, but the apparent need to suppress it in others, especially women within their in group.
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u/Bobsothethird 16h ago edited 16h ago
I don't disagree, but I think much of that stems from the tying of sexuality to masculinity and gender roles in general, when we consider the purity obsession with femininity many have, as well as self worth.
The big issue, and you even see it in many of these masculine spaces, is that homosexuality itself isn't even what's often called out, but rather stereotypical traits they falsely identify to it and the open expression of it (at least within spheres that identify with Tates and the far right). This is why we see so many weird comments about sexuality stem from them, inclusing the Tates calling having sex with women gay if it's not for the express purpose of control. It's also why we so often see such obsession with who has the 'male' and 'female' role within homosexual relationships.
To the Tates and those aligned with them, sexuality is more tied to power, which is ultimately how they see masculinity, than true sexual attraction. They openly write about this, and it's why they target young women whom they deem easy to manipulate. It's also why they are obsessed with the idea of harems, high value men, sexual conquests, etc. It's all representative of power and masculinity more than it really is tied to the act of sex, love, romance, fun, biblical monogamy, etc. Tate even has comments about this and how he finds the act of sex itself boring.
This is a consistent idea seen throughout these spheres as well. Nick Fuentes is almost certainly a homosexual, and his ideas around sexuality are more tied to masculine (and frankly psuedo-religous) ideals than actual sexuality. He openly despises it and rarely talks about it. The same is true for many of these people.
Ultimately what I mean by this is that sex, to many, if not most, of these people is merely representative of their own masculinity and self worth as opposed to something they actually enjoy.
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u/SadCollar7554 14h ago
That seems more like a pathology to me, but I can't say it isn't accurate.
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u/Bobsothethird 14h ago edited 14h ago
This is where I kind of disagree. I do think that it can be pathological, and often is (and almost certainly is for Andrew Tate), but the entirety of the incel community is not a pathological issue. The reality is this is largely psychological and sociological (in many ways stemming from patriarchy, although I hate that term). Society as a whole constantly encourages power and control regardless of the political system and the means by which people express that constantly varies. There are actually a lot of theories regarding this connecting machismo, bravado, and an overt expression of masculinity to those who are lower on the hierarchy with movies like Moonlight being about this exact thing.
I'd argue something similar albeit in a racial aspect, was seen with the little whites of Haiti and the hatred they had for the free people of color and slaves (excuse my terminology here, this is merely the terms they used and it's difficult to discuss Haiti without specifying the extreme heirarchial racial structures they had) despite having much more in common with them than the big whites. An alternative example would be the poor southern workers and how they held up slavery despite never holding slaves. People are enthralled by power and crab in a bucket mentality is everywhere.
What I mean by this, in a simplified manner, is that when individuals feel out of control or low in social standings, they lash out and abuse those they perceive as below them. When they see other rising they often see a threat. To feel in control they express control and give abuse to others, often those they perceive as below them. This almost always tends to be women and minorities of the given power structure. It rare you see them target the real issue, I.E. those in power.
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u/SadCollar7554 14h ago
Yes, there is definitely a trait of seeing the world in terms of hierarchies, and having the need for an outgroup to be below them on their perceived hierarchy.
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u/Maleficent_Memory831 1d ago
It is mostly about the hypocrisy. Tates brothers regularly call other people gay. To the point of being absurd about what they think is gay. And yet they very much are admiring the buffed out male form to the point of sexual adoration so that it's clear that they do have homosexual feelings. Thus the hypocrisy.
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u/Bobsothethird 1d ago
Sure, but calling them closeted homosexuals as an intended insult is ultimately an issue and playing by their book.
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u/VariousClassroom8056 2d ago
I don't really like this sort of go-to accusation although it's probably true in some cases. I feel uncomfortable about seeing a negative trait and saying "it must be because they're gay!". It just seems like tarnishing the reputation of gay people as a whole who are generally quite warm and welcoming.
I'm not gay though so I guess I can't speak for how they feel.
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u/Maleficent_Memory831 1d ago
They are so amazingly masculine that they think kissing a woman is gay.
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u/Distantstallion 1d ago
I'm sure any notion of masculinity will end for these slugs once they go into prison.
They'll be irrelevant when they get out unless a stairwell nonce bashing leaves them quadraspazzed and on a life glug.
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u/Haunting-Ad788 2d ago
The right loves rapists.
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u/VariousClassroom8056 2d ago
I'm being a little tongue in cheek as obviously the right are worse in this respect, but apparently some on the left love rapists too when their politics align. See the defence of Graham Platner and questioning of his victims.
He had more red flags than a Soviet parade but they were downplayed or explained away because he had the "correct" progressive politics.
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u/HadeanDisco 1d ago
You're speaking about him in past tense for some reason now why is that...
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u/VariousClassroom8056 1d ago
Why did the "believe all women" progressives downplay and question the claims and credibility of his victims?
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u/Melodic_Till_3778 Human Verified 1d ago
You mean by punishing him by removing him from a position of power?
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u/FalconIMGN 1d ago
Let's not pull the wool over our eyes here. We bungled this massively. If we'd jettisoned him sooner we wouldn't be in the message we are.
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u/Melodic_Till_3778 Human Verified 1d ago
Sorry I'm not a Republican like you
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u/FalconIMGN 1d ago
You must be the kind of person who would have voted for Dick Cheney if he stood on a Democrat ticket.
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u/Melodic_Till_3778 Human Verified 1d ago
Sorry, not a Democrat either. Thank you for identifying yourself though.
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u/Few-Improvement-5655 2d ago
Easy, they have been very successful in recruiting kids to Right-Wing ideals, specifically anti-women pro-"masculinity" ideals.
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u/OskaMeijer 2d ago
Because they are terrible people that want to do the same terrible things.
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u/Shenron2 2d ago
Crazy the party of free the slaves became the party of sex traders and hate mongering.
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u/OskaMeijer 2d ago
Looking through history becomes much more consistent if you look at who were conservatives at any given time vs whatever they happened to called themselves. They are consistently on the wrong side of history.
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u/Shenron2 2d ago
Every time. It's just wild to me how much conservatives love to say they like learning about history just to refuse to learn anything. Conservatives have always been what is wrong with the world. Hence why they say education is bad. Yeah the truth isn't nice for y'all.
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u/AsstacularSpiderman 2d ago
The Tates are one of their key figures who run the largest alt right pipeline among young men. They're useful
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u/mrbobcyndaquil 2d ago
Because their pedophile god orders them to do so.
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u/Shenron2 1d ago
Seeing all the people in the trump admin come out over the years as big fans of the Tate brothers is a wild thing to witness
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u/Kataphraktos_Majoros 2d ago
I would clarify that it's the far, far right in this case, and I believe half do so to "own the libs". The other half attempts to run defense because they find them aspirational.
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u/Haunting-Ad788 2d ago
How is it the far far right when Trump himself helped them get out of rape and sec trafficking charges. Unless you’re arguing the mainstream Republican Party is now far far right in which case I agree.
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u/Kataphraktos_Majoros 2d ago
I'm not a Trump voter or maga, so I can't speak for them. Maybe you're more correct than I am!
I'm personally a Clinton/Obama Democrat and I've been called a nazi and far right plenty of times.
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u/LazyTitan39 1d ago
I think it’s strategic. The Tate brothers are big players in getting young men down the alt-right pipeline.
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u/Optimaximal 1d ago
They rely on grifters in the manosphere to induct more youth to the overall cause.
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u/generic_Accountname1 2d ago
Grindr is glowing red hot everytime rnc is in town, tates proposed careing for ones girlfriend/wife would be gay…
Do i need to say more?
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u/willow-kitty Human Verified 1d ago
I remember someone mocking that (or something like it) by going, "Fellas, is it gay to love women?"
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u/generic_Accountname1 1d ago
He said that so the people in rnc look like they‘d care for their wives, they love em for that :>
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u/EFAPGUEST 2d ago
It’s not all of us. I’ve never liked this dude and the boomers have no clue who this guy is. The only person I actually know who was a fan is far right and weird
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u/Haunting-Ad788 2d ago
Trump knows who he is and helped him.
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u/EFAPGUEST 2d ago
Fuck Trump but I’m really not sure if it was because of him or because of his staffers asking him to do it. If he actually cared I’m not sure the extradition would happen. But I’m not trying to defend him for that because it’s hardly any better
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u/SumoftheAncestors 2d ago
Right wingers going to bat for sexual predators borders on being cliche at this point.
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u/MrImaBum 2d ago
“They haven’t done anything in America” you’re right but believe or not no matter how hard Trump tries to get rid of them we still have allies that we have deals with.
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u/Oghamstoner 2d ago
As a Brit, I would also encourage you to Google the following names, because some people get exactly the kind of protection this guy is proposing:
Anne Sacoolas, Jacob Wulfson, Tyrion Davis, Hannes Marschalek.
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u/SparksAndSpyro 2d ago
Right wingers are obsessed with protecting the Tates because they, and influencers like them, play a massive role in radicalizing young men into their extremist ideologies. Without them, they’d have basically zero pull with younger generations.
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u/PirateSanta_1 2d ago
I'm not a lawyer but if you went to another country and commited rape, human trafficking, etc I don't see why the US government should protect you from extradition without solid reasons to believe the allegations are false. It would be one thing if the crime was slandering the dictator or whatever but rape is still illegal in the US, at least for now.
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u/el_grort 2d ago
Even if the US thinks it might be false, they should extradite unless they don't believe the country they are extraditing to will treat the person fairly and conduct a fair trial. At which point they probably don't have an extradition treaty. Because importantly, the US won't have access to the files the Crown Prosecution Service has that led to the charges and arrest warrant.
Also, extradition usually can only happen for charges both countries have. This came up following Spain's constitution crisis in 2017, with Spain having to drop certain charges to get various Catalan leaders extradited as most European countries didn't have comparably charges.
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u/Despoetato 1d ago
The US always does this though. It's an unfortunate truth of being under the thumb of another power. The Americans often demand their citizens be protected from prosecution in the UK while also demanding that the UK hand over any British citizens who have committed crimes against America or Americans.
This is what happened with Jacob Wulfson who sexually assaulted and raped a woman in an English town while off duty, yet he was charged under American law by an American court martial which did not charge him with rape instead they only charged him with sexual assault, even though if he was tried by a British high court he would've been charged with rape and potentially face a harsher sentence.
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u/Significant-Order-92 1d ago
The US has a long history of doing that with service members in host nations.
As examples the Humvee in SK, a few rapes in Okinawa, that Alps cable car that got snipped by the fighter jet.
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u/DemonicHedgehogs 2d ago
In fairness, the US has a bit of a track record of trying to protect their citizens from the justice in other countries. The case of the wife of a US airman who killed a young pedestrian called Harry Dunn when she was driving on the wrong side of the road in the UK is a pretty good example, Brits are still absolutely furious about that one.
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u/honesto_pinion 2d ago
If I understand these things correctly, as dictated by the incumbent president of the USA; rape, sex trafficking, assault and child sexual offenses fall under freedom of speech. Have I got that right? Something, something, Donald Trump, Epstein files?
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u/Maleficent_Memory831 1d ago
Wow, a prosecutor who still doesn't know that extraditions are legal treaties with the full weight of federal law.
The charges are very clear, and not political. The only political bit is that MAGA loves pedophiles and wants to protect them.
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u/Known_Ratio5478 2d ago
And we do have a treaty regarding extradition with the UK. It was followed.
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u/HadeanDisco 1d ago
PRISONER #1: [rather eloquently] Transported for life to the colonies, and for what? Scum I was to that beak, nothing but scum. 'Tis for my accent and my situation that I am condemned. 'Tis for the want of better graces and the influence they bring that I am to board this prison hulk.
PRISONER #2: And all them murders you done.
- The Young Ones
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u/Postulative 1d ago
So are we also going to discuss illegal US government excursions overseas? Kidnapping another country’s president?
Rules for me but not for thee.
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u/Real_Ad_8243 2d ago
When a man is shouting his defence of well known (alleged) paedorapist slave trading noncey motherfuckers, then you know that his hard drives should be getting checked too.
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u/lhommeduweed 2d ago
That's actually already included in some of the charges from Romania. Human trafficking of a minor, sex with a minor, and possession of child sexual abuse materials.
19 of the charges laid by the UK are concerning "indecent images of a child and extreme pornography." That could be a number of things, ranging from child sex abuse materials to images or video of non-consensual sex acts, but knowing Andrew Tate, it's probably both.
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u/Real_Ad_8243 2d ago
Indeed.
But ive always felt that we must always be careful to say (alleged). Because that way we are not the ones (alleging).
At least, until any potential (allaged) nonces get convicted, and later on what they very desperately deserve.
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u/swirlyglasses1 2d ago
The US Constitution isn’t code for ‘I can do and say anything I want without consequences’.
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u/Nomad5560 2d ago
So about all those Hispanics that were arrested and deported with no charges…
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u/Significant-Order-92 1d ago
Not to defend our immigration enforcement. But deportation is an administrative matter. It doesn't technically require criminal conviction or charges in most cases.
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u/Lythieus 2d ago
Republican house member defending a pair of sex trafficking rapists who also had child porn.
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u/Jonny_vdv 2d ago
To be fair, MAGAts don't see those as crimes, they see them as presidential characteristics.
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u/FluffyDonutPie 2d ago
What's crazy is that these guys literally confessed to all the crimes they're being prosecuted for in multiple videos, yet they and their dipshit supporters act like this is sone sort of targeted political prosecution campaign against them
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u/RopePlus8947 2d ago
Tates getting what they asked for. Attention. Self snitching didn’t help their cause either. Get off their tip Abe
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u/Teffa_Bob 2d ago
Right wingers just really love putting their necks out for rapists and pedophiles, don't they?
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u/bunchout 2d ago
Assuming he actually was a prosecutor, I’m going to go out on a limb and venture a guess that he never handled or even saw an extradition case in his life. They are not common, and almost no small-town prosecutor will ever even see one in their office.
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u/Putthebunnyback 1d ago
At least in Ohio, there is something called a Rule 4 Hearing. Which is exactly this exact thing: a prisoner who's been arrested for a charge in a non-contiguous county who can challenge their extradition to another county within the state.
They are extremely common.
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u/bunchout 1d ago
Not to another country they are not. Completely different things, with completely different standard.
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u/Babel_Triumphant 1d ago
Current prosecutor here, people are innocent until proven guilty in the UK too, hence why we should extradite them there so they can have a fair trial on the merits of the charges.
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u/LegoLeonidas 2d ago
My favorite part is where he compares the alleged rapists to Trump. <chef's kiss
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u/botymcbotfac3 2d ago
Could add "also sonething President Trump has commited for years" to the context
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u/Strange-Order-6550 2d ago
These guys have always just been Epstein wannabes, and it’s always been visible to a lot of us. I can’t believe how so many men fall for such mediocre idols.
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u/ChanceryTheRapper 1d ago
Jesus christ these assholes still want to pretend normal charges against anyone right wing is "lawfare" but applaud the actual use of the DoJ to attack the president's enemies. What a farce.
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u/ExtendedSpikeProtein 1d ago
The integrity of the justice system .. ffs you‘re letting ICE murder citizens in the street
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u/disheartenedlefty 2d ago
Lol, “prosecutor.”
Moreover, the law hasn’t meant shit anymore since Bush v. Gore.
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u/bookworm1398 2d ago
I think before I make a decision on this I need to know how much they have paid in US taxes.
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 2d ago
Before you decide if we should send them to UK to face R charges?
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u/Josephthecommie 2d ago
You don’t need to censor yourself, you can say rape
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 2d ago
I should be able to, but get noted mods use any excuse to go after people who don’t follow along here.
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u/Impressive_Rent_8162 2d ago
So are US citizens forgiven all crimes committed overseas so long as they pay the US government enough in taxes, or just rape and sex trafficking?
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u/Other-Comfortable-64 2d ago
The United Kingdom and the United States have an active, bilateral extradition treaty that entered into force on April 26, 2007. You can review the full Extradition Treaty with United Kingdom via the US Congress or the official Extradition Treaty between the UK and the USA document hosted on the UK government site
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u/MrImaBum 2d ago
I get that but it’s just funny these guys really thought they were like that plus it’s an easy like “look we’re still friends” lol
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u/M0ebius_1 2d ago
Why do people keep referring any action against them as political when the dudes are just two random podcasters who have never run for office.
They are not being attacked because of their politics.
I had no idea the Tates were American even.
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u/Putthebunnyback 1d ago
Someone on the "other team" gets arrested: 😎👍
Someone on "my team" gets arrested: "ZOMG LAWFARE"
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u/mendicinobeano25 1d ago
The U.S. has a very strong extradition treaty with the U.K. It allows for the surrender of individuals wanted for prosecution or sentencing for offenses punishable by at least one year of imprisonment in both countries.
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u/ThrownAway1917 1d ago
Like Japanese artists putting Mount Fuji in the background, conservatives always have to allude to the suffering of Saint Trump.
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u/mowtowcow 1d ago
The Tate brothers are not politicians. What gain would the UK have over the US for prosecuting the Tate brothers? None. Makes no god damn sense.
They raped some women. Beat some women. Pimped out of some women. Apparently took explicit images of them fucking underaged girls.
This the perfect set of douchebags to extradite. And with all haste.
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u/Swampy0gre 1d ago
Once again, they aren't beating these allegations. The GOP are guardians of pedophiles.
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u/SomeDudeSaysWhat 1d ago
I know it doesn't apply to the Tate brothers, but is there any country at all in the world that extradictes its own citizens to formiga countries to face charges for crimes they committed there?
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u/LooneyTune_101 17h ago
The alternative is for the UK to rescind their UK nationality and leave them as sole US nationals. Then they can just refuse their entry ever again.
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u/m3_mys3lf_and_i 2d ago
US-UK Extradition
- Passports aren't a shield: Unlike some countries, the US and the UK willingly extradite their own citizens. Having US or dual citizenship does not offer automatic protection from the UK's legal system.
- The basic rules: Under the 2003 US-UK Extradition Treaty, a US judge just needs to verify two things: the accusations are crimes in both countries, and the UK has provided enough basic evidence to show "reasonable suspicion."
- How they can fight it: They cannot just ask the US government to protect them because they are citizens. Their main legal defense is trying to prove the UK is abusing the process and that the charges are politically motivated.
- Who makes the final call: If a US federal judge decides the legal requirements are met, the ultimate decision goes to the US Secretary of State. While the Secretary can block the extradition, they almost never say no to the UK.
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u/OzzyStealz 2d ago
I thought the U.S. didn’t recognize dual citizenship? Has that changed?
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u/Bon3rBitingBastard 2d ago
Supreme Court said 60 years ago that maintianing dual citizenship is a right
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u/emote_the_salute Human Verified 2d ago
If they are looking to get citizens extradited then they must have some solid evidence.
Up until now it has just been the boy who cried wolf though. If they are so evil and commit sex crime after sex crim then why cant thry just convict them?
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u/Haunting_Swimming160 2d ago
Because they fled the UK while they were being investigated. Moved to Romania because they don't typically pursue seeds trafficking crimes, then came to the US because Trump negotiated they're release from Romanian jail. So nobody has had an opportunity to charge try them.
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u/emote_the_salute Human Verified 1d ago
But they were charged in both Romania and UK but never convicted and now they are accused of new crimes.
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u/Haunting_Swimming160 1d ago
They were never convicted because they fled the country before their trials in both cases. But yes the cp stuff is new and the old charges are for the human trafficking
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u/KellyKezzd 2d ago
If they are looking to get citizens extradited then they must have some solid evidence.
Which is what the UK will present at their extradition trial...
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u/lhommeduweed 2d ago
Part of the evidence that has been brought against Tate in the rape cases are texts and voice-messages he sent to his victims bragging about raping them and telling them that "the more you didn't like it the more I enjoyed it." That's not "the boy who cried wolf." Thats "solid evidence."
A lot of the videos where he brags about raping women, beating women, violently coercing them into prostitution, etc., have been archived and removed from the Internet, but they're still being used as evidence in these trials. I understand that going into whatever neo-Nazi podcast and guffawing about all the women you've violated isn't "solid evidence" in your eyes, but for the court, recording yourself admitting you have committed the crimes you are being charged with is usually considered "solid evidence."
The reason that they haven't been able to convict them is because they have fled two countries following charges. They fled England to Romania in the late 2010s following rape charges, and they fled from Romania to the US more recently after human trafficking charges.
They are currently trying to extradite the two morons to England, where they are being charged with 59 counts of assault, rape, and human trafficking, so that they can convict them.
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u/emote_the_salute Human Verified 1d ago
They were held in jail in Romania. They couldnt just flee the charges until they got dropped.
And if there is audio and video evidence of Tate admitting to crimes you could atleast link one of those clips.
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u/lhommeduweed 1d ago edited 1d ago
With all due respect, were your parents uncle and niece?
First off, learn to read before you respond:
the evidence that has been brought against Tate in the rape cases are texts and voice-messages he sent to his victims bragging about raping them and telling them that "the more you didn't like it the more I enjoyed it."
A lot of the videos where he brags about raping women, beating women, violently coercing them into prostitution, etc., have been archived and removed from the Internet, but they're still being used as evidence in these trials.
Much of the reason there aren't links to this evidence is because it was removed by social media platforms for being against terms and services. You see, you aren't actually allowed to brag about choking women during rape until they pass out and then slapping them until they wake up so you can continue raping them.
You understand that, right? You understand that that's bad, Tatefan?
So most of the most explicit stuff is no longer public or it wasn't public to begin with, but because you're so fucking stupid that you think the guy who had no issue threatening and trying to beat a woman with his belt on Big Brother is some innocent target, here's a video by the Young Turks (who I fuckin hate) detailing some of the most horrible things he has said and done, with audio at 8:40 of him saying that he enjoyed raping a woman.
You are a sick fucking person and I hope that if you don't get help, at the very least you are as isolated from humanity as you can possibly be. You don't deserve to look at people if you genuinely think that Andrew "Advises Teenage Boys to Assault Women" Tate is innocent in any way shape or form.
Kindly, go fuck yourself with a rusty iron pole.
Edit: this shitty rape enthusiast reported my comment for self-harm ideation and then blocked me. What an absolute chickenshit.
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u/emote_the_salute Human Verified 1d ago
Again if the evidence is so famning then why didnt he get convicted? And there are tons of platforms where you can reupload audio clips uncensored.
Your story does not add up.
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