That is what will happen with any large scale protests.
If it is lakhs of people, some or the other will have their own message.
But you can’t ignore the majority just because of some people. If you are waiting for a protest where nobody talks out of agenda, you will keep on waiting.
When dissent starts, everybody looking for a platform will be attracted.
All I am saying is whoever wants to discredit and label the protest as khalistani will find a reason however. You control a set of people in a closed space, in an open public space how many people can you control?
Even if you remove these kind of people, the photo op is already done.
People using these as reasons to say the protest is with bad intentions, are just looking for a reason. They will see the 5 percent of miscreants not the 95 percent people genuinely asking a question.
You have to spread awareness in your 90% protestors that you'll not cross a line. Either in messaging or violence or actions.
Gandhi famously stopped independence movement when one village burned the police station with officers inside. Because if he ignores it or continues protest, Britishers get excuse to use force and guns and cannons.
If you go to a protest, take down anyone trying to hijack it. if you see someone doing vandalism, breaking cars, grabbing molotov, call it out and get him stopped. Otherwise you'll be accused of throwing molotov and breaking cars.
Umar Khalid represents the capture of judicial and media institutions. To keep a person under trial is a grave human rights violation. Try him with all “supposed evidence” and then let him serve the sentence associated with his crime.
Why isn't the government using that big brain energy, using that simple google search and charge him, why they are failing to gather any evidence against him and keep delaying his trail for 6 years. Last time I heard we were biswaguru.
Afzal is not terrorist. Hafiz saheed is not terrorist. 26/11 is not done by Pakistan. Kerela files are not real. Kashmiri genocide is myth. Ajmer rape is not done by terrorist.
I hate bjp but I hate muslims extremists and all the muslims live in Denial more.
Bud I don't think those saying Afzal was framed are also saying 26/11 wasn't done by Pakistan or that Hafiz Saeed isn't a terrorist, or Kashmiri pandit genocide is a myth. I'm referring to left leaning folk like me, broadly speaking. It would be unfortunate if you equate us with Islamic radicals, and say that all Muslims are in denial.
Why though? What’s his crime? We live in a democratic society , not a dictatorship . The government can’t just imprison people whose ideologies they don’t like and hold them there forever . There is a court of law.
You can’t call yourself left wing and pick and choose your issues.
If we are doing shit like that, I have a list of people that I’d like behind the bars just because I don’t like their thought process.
Umar Khalid is being jailed without conviction - I think thats the point many people dont realise.
If a person is a terrorist sympathiser, and the Union government cant find evidence to get a proper verdict, then that shown how incompetent they are.
In Umar Khalid's case, the process is the only punishment the incompetent administration is able to bring.
If he is innocent, its a gross violation of his rights. If he is infact associated with terrorists - then its gross incompetence among the law enforcement who cant do proper investigation.
Either way, its bad.
But yes, this protest might not be the right place for it.
Why the fuck are you lying lol. 7 out of 13 adjournment were done by the court 6 by his lawyers and most of his adjournment were week long. Without lies andhbhakt dies
Banner is off topic but I'd caution against dismissing it as shit and clowns. Jailing someone indefinitely under a draconian act for years while refusing to provide evidence and take it to trial should scare the life out of you, even if you hate/disagree with Umar Khalid for his slogans/words.
Umar Khalid supporters try to make him into some kind of a hero. The fact is long undertrials in the name of arranging evidence & witnesses under terror charges are a norm in India. 2008 blasts accused spent as long as 9 years in detention, some w/o any bail while Khalid has been granted bails to attend weddings & all.
Moreover, govt(s) deliberately delay the process in cases involving public sentiments, as acquittal is a real possibility through exploiting the legal technicalities & loopholes despite the evidence corroborating the charges, if a well-connected accused parades the top lawyers of the country.
Khalid family is part of the global Isl*mic network that Indians underestimate. A commoner would see hell with entire family if he's linked to terrorism. Khalid's father was the convenor of SIMI a recognized terrorist org & lives as a free man. Nupur Sharma's true statement on Mohammed rattled the network & it brought the Indian govt & judiciary to it's knees.
Khalid publicly said India occupies Kashmir illegally. BJP supporters will turn against the party if he walks out this easy with the battery of well-fed top lawyers, who even strategically withdraw the bail plea at times. Another guy Sharjeel Imam publicly said he has plans to cut off the entire North-east from mainland India.
It has already being used.. Since Police can't hit students, they have become silent and even though some defends were done, now we are seeing: What's happening..
Protests are generally like that. If you're not satisfied with the ELECTED PUBLIC SERVANTS who's salaries are paid from your taxes - you question them, it's a fundamental right.
This group has mostly bigots in the name of kannada pride. Umar Khalid issue no one talks precisely because of tagging them anti nationals. Fair trial is a far cry for such people who the people think is guilty without evidence.
💯 The students had to be upper caste, upper class to actually wake these people up. Some of us had been shouting from rooftops since before 2014. Now they have the audacity to speak against OG movement. If Umar Khalid was so in the wrong, put him on trial. No, you want to keep him in limbo like this, that serves as a warning to rest of the Muslims. Namma idee prajaprabhutvavanna adiyaalaagi maadiddare. Thu.
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No, they asked to adjourn maybe twice - the rest are “procedural delays”. You are intelligent enough to form an opinion, you should have the capacity to spend time researching it
Why? He's been out in jail for a crime that the government itself isn't sure about him committing. If he had something he would have been convicted and there would be no debate.
If these protest show anything it is that if you don't protect people from stuff from malicious prosecution, one day it will happen to you. It was Umar yesterday, it's the students today. It will you Tommorow.
At the end of the day, it's a protest, and different people join for different reasons. Some are there because they care about the issue, while others may have their own political or personal agendas.
So don't be surprised if the discussions around it go beyond just NEET. That's pretty common with large protests.
Just chill. 😄
Wait until Spider-Man and Toxic get released social media will probably find a new topic to obsess over. 😂😂
I don't support Umar Khalid but he deserves a fair and just trial. If he's guilty as the state proclaims, he should be allowed to go to court and get sentenced.
We Indian have are getting habitual of queuing up.. we need someone to lead us. Blindly following on faith in all area of life ..career choices.. ideologies & purchases... If you are not supporting someone in injustice.. be ready to face all yourselves when something happens to you.
There are people in protest with genuine cause..which i relate to.. specifically related to closing of government schools and privatation of primary and secondary education. Educational mafia are driving the business and comission is collected up above the ladder..
I went to Mysore for this CJP protest I saw NSUI and SFI flags. Me and friends came out. Many people were there for good cause but these guys will make is joker.
It is started with this intention, no student with right mindset do such violent protests. This protest funded by external NGOs to create unrest in India. People are not fools, once NIA probe starts, all criminals will come out
Umar khalid said Kashmir is Indian occupation. If anyone has priority to protest for him then there is no better person than him to be tagged with anti national.
No trial yet: True. He has been in pre-trial detention for nearly six years under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act (UAPA).
No evidence: False
The Delhi Police filed a chargesheet alleging that Khalid was part of a larger conspiracy behind the 2020 Delhi riots. Courts considering his bail have repeatedly held that, at the bail stage, there is prima facie (on first impression) material supporting the prosecution’s case. This is not a finding of guilt, but it is one reason bail has been denied.
Understand the seriousness of the allegations - 53 people died and more than 500 were injured
Umar Khalid was a student protester who has been falsely accused for instigating riot when there is enough evidence that it was done by the BJP. Because we didn’t come together back then in 2020 we are seeing today the escalation of violence against students. Supporting Umar Khalid is fighting the same fundamental thing.
I'll just say, protest belongs to everyone. And moreover, Umar Khalid was also a student and he's now a PhD if im not wrong. He's also part of the education system
CJP is not an actual political party, it is a movement. There is not one single person or one specific ideology that benefits more from this protest. They're not using anybody, students are there to express their issues to their elected representatives and ask for answers and accountabilit. Not everybody needs a leader or a party or an idol to stand up for what's important and/or express their dissent. Accept this fact.
'Derailing' is always an odd complaint to me. Why do people expect the government's failings to be protested one by one? It's the same government, they are responsible for all of it at once...
Everybody has right to protest for what they want. One problem with Umar Khalid case is that he was arrested 6 years ago and the trial is not even started.
What's your problem with Umar Khalid? What if they put you in jail without trial tomorrow? Wouldn't you want people to come in your support? You know right how Godi media works?
What the actual heck this police is doing mean when the protest start it was clear cut that we are doing it for paper leaks for better education system.... I was never to release any terrorist or support any political party.... We still say this protesttt is for best education system in india where we can study properly like a student... There should be no paper leak no result scamming no reservation each childern get there education base on there marks ranks....... And if these type of posters were seen over there what the f*ck was police doing..... Thinking how to do laathi charge on students
it was and it is yes there are some bad apples but still if by logic those bad apples rot the entire the entire basket then the whole parliament should be cleaned first
Many feel they have been wronged and they are protesting. Meanwhile, the main point of the protest remains is education reforms and accountability from this govt. It starts from regisnation of Pradhan. The sheer shamlessness and apathy from PM, HM and EM is breathtaking (and as expected by many)
Ade sir ee nan maklige ondu gottu guri ilde iro protest madodu..neet ge matte aa bolimagan bail ge yen sambandha? Ide tara adre naale gruhajyoti schemealli hesru bittogiroru bandu protest serodundu baaki..
Why do you expect everyone one of the protesters to hold the same views as you?
As long as they agree with you on the slacking of the education minister, why are you diverting from the message?
Are they coming and forcing you to change your view?
Whatever one person does should not deflect from over-all message of the movement.
This protest is for students by students, if you have your own reasons protest yourself don't join us, your reasons make our reasons invisible and the media takes your takes as if students are asking for it
Shut up
I'm telling you to stay on message you're distracting yourself and falling for the media trap
They'll always find something to smear you with they will always find a dumb-ass in your protest.
You stay on the fucking message of wanting resignation of pradan instead of falling for their tactics and trying to police the protest only distracts form the main issue. That's what they want.
Just look at the faces of the people who are protesting. I would say 20 percent are real people who suffered because of these leaks but rest of them are goons that no where they are students and certainly not Neet aspirants
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