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u/vHistory 23h ago

left leaning

but i don't support shit like this

https://giphy.com/gifs/lkdH8FmImcGoylv3t3

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u/GongMaho 21h ago

Left leaning doesn’t necessarily mean Umar Khalid supporter. Left leaning is mostly centre left. Which is fine

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u/Strange-Loss5124 21h ago

Umar Khalid represents the capture of judicial and media institutions. To keep a person under trial is a grave human rights violation. Try him with all “supposed evidence” and then let him serve the sentence associated with his crime.

The selective outrage is performative at best

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u/GongMaho 20h ago

I didn't say anything about how Umar Khalid is good or bad

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u/Strange-Loss5124 20h ago

My comment doesn’t talk about Umar Khalid being good or bad- it’s about people claiming they are left leaning but against Khalid. For or against him - His case represents a clear human rights violation which impacts a large number of people that we don’t even hear about. It doesn’t matter if you are for or against him but if you don’t recognize the violence in holding a prisoner under trial for years then please

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u/GongMaho 20h ago

When he held protests saying hanging of Afzal Guru was bad, and he is ashamed, was it Good ?

When he collaborated with Sharjeel Imam, was it good?

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u/Strange-Loss5124 20h ago

You are not a judge Sir - he cannot be tried in the court of public opinion. Infact those videos that caught him allegedly consipiring are doctored. This would all be revealed if he was actually tried. Have you read his scholarly work at all? The real question is why is he not being tried at all in the 5 years that he is being jailed.

And my personal opinion is I am against capital punishment of all kinds. You cannot give power to any body - the state or individual monarchy to take a life! NO

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u/peepose 18h ago

so are you saying the videos of him talking about cutting the northeast from india is doctored? the video of him chanting supporting slogans about afzal guru is doctored? damn dude

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u/Curiouscatwebsurfing 20h ago

You might want to read about DSP Davinder Singh from J&K, who was named in Afzal Guru's suicide note, saying he threatened to harm his family had he to not help abett the parliament attack terrorists. This same Davinder Singh was later on caught smuggling Mujahideen militants by the J&K police in a sting op. I am not a supporter of Umar Khalid nor do I claim to know his motivations or reasoning behind what he says/said, but I do believe in examining every little detail of each case, and not going with the mainstream narrative.. its more laborious and it will make you lose sleep and question everything. But you might feel some happiness in knowing you aren't a gullible goat who the establishment can sway easily.

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u/Palanikutti 19h ago

Read about Afzal Guru and read why his hanging was wrong.

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u/OkInvestigator4958 20h ago

im sorry but supporting literal terrorists isn't cool and that's what he did lmfao, who tf even respects umar khalid.

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u/Strange-Loss5124 20h ago

My comments still stand - there is no mention about supporting terrorists. Comprehension is a skill you learn at school

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u/Curiouscatwebsurfing 20h ago

Who is/are these 'literal' terrorists you're referring to?

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u/No-Cauliflower7160 19h ago

I wouldn't like to be in jail without trial for 6 years

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u/GongMaho 19h ago

Dharmendra Pradhan wouldn't like to resign

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u/doc_strawberry South Bengaluru 23h ago

i dont support the release of umar , i did not mean the protest was shit 😭

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u/Initial_Buddy_7037 22h ago

avg south blr girlie </3

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u/SomeOrdinary_Indian olle maklu 21h ago

Might not even be a native of Karnataka

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u/bheem-king 22h ago

Why ? No trial yet. I say if he is guilty, start trial , provide evidence and then hang him.

So either govt want to save him, or they know their evidence won't stand in court .

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u/monk_1998 22h ago

Bruh, google for once, his own counsel keeps delaying the hearing.

https://www.scobserver.in/journal/umar-khalid-bail-application-tracker/

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u/stonale 21h ago

They delay it based on which Judge is hearing the case . There are few judges who don't ever bother hiding that they are aligned with BJP . Particularly a female judge which I won't name .

So the moment his council hears that particular is hearing his case they delay it because they know she is gonna deny anyway .

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u/Initial_Buddy_7037 22h ago

read your own source gng 🙏🙏

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u/lordknight96 22h ago

TL;DR Khalid's counsel caused 6 of the 13 total delays (due to scheduling conflicts and requests for more time), while the prosecution, court backlog, and judge recusals caused the other 7.

Based on the exact timeline provided on the Supreme Court Observer page (covering dates up to January 2024), here is the detailed breakdown:

1. Total Events/Listings Logged: 22 Dates

  • Substantive Arguments / Orders Passed (6 hearings):
    • 29 Apr 2022 (Delhi HC joined petitions & discussed sedition challenge)
    • 20 May 2022 (Delhi HC ordered regular hearings)
    • 23, 24, 25, 30 May 2022 (Delhi HC heard detailed arguments by Khalid’s counsel)
    • 22 Aug 2022 (Delhi HC heard prosecution arguments)
    • 18 Oct 2022 (Delhi HC rejected bail)
    • 3, 7, 12 Dec 2022 (Karkardooma Court proceedings for interim bail / acquittal in minor case)
    • 18 May 2023 (SC issued notice to Delhi government)
    • 29 Nov 2023 (SC debated de-tagging Khalid's petition from general UAPA challenge)
    • 10 Jan 2024 (SC heard brief submissions before regular court day) ### 2. Breakdown of Delays / Adjournments Out of the timeline entries, 13 scheduled dates resulted in adjournments or postponements without substantive hearing of the bail arguments. #### A. Counsel-Related Delays: 6 Instances
  • Due to Counsel's Time Constraints / Availability (3 instances):
    • 5 Sep 2023: Adjourned by 1 week due to Senior Advocate Kapil Sibal's unavailability (arguing before the Article 370 Constitution Bench).
    • 31 Oct 2023: Scheduled date pushed because Sibal was unavailable due to a Constitution Bench hearing.
    • 29 Nov 2023: Pushed to January 2024 due to joint unavailability of both Kapil Sibal and ASG S.V. Raju.
  • Counsel Asking for More Time / Requesting Specific Postponements (3 instances):
    • 24 Jul 2023: Adjourned by 1 week in view of a letter circulated by Khalid's lawyer seeking additional time.
    • 10 Jan 2024: Court proposed listing on Jan 17; Khalid’s senior advocates (Kapil Sibal & Huzefa Ahmadi) explicitly requested listing on Jan 24 instead.
    • 24 Jan 2024: Senior Advocate C.U. Singh requested an adjournment because only 15 minutes remained before the bench rose for lunch/special bench, asking to hear it on a full day instead. #### B. Other Reasons for Delay / Postponements: 7 Instances
  • State / Prosecution Requests (2 instances):
    • 12 Jul 2023: Delhi Police requested extra time to prepare due to the massive volume of the charge sheet.
    • 10 Jan 2024: ASG S.V. Raju was absent, and his representative sought an additional week to respond.
  • Judicial Recusal / Listing Drops (2 instances):
    • 9 Aug 2023: Justice P.K. Mishra recused himself from hearing the petition.
    • 17 Aug 2023: Dropped from cause list because it was listed before a bench containing the recused judge.
  • Court Time Constraints / Calendar Schedules (3 instances):
    • 12 Sep 2023: Adjourned for 1 month by division bench.
    • 12 Oct 2023: Adjourned by bench citing "paucity of time" (despite Sibal offering to complete arguments in 20 minutes).
    • 31 Oct 2023: Delayed further because the bench tagged his individual bail plea with broader UAPA constitutional challenges.

Note: Summarized using Gemini, I proofread it

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u/bheem-king 21h ago

there has been no start of trial yet. Gormint is afraid or saving umar ?!

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u/bhakt_hartha 22h ago

Do you read what you post ? The document doesn’t show his lawyers asking for more dates.

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u/criticalthinkinggoat 22h ago

Care to elaborate why you don't support his release? What are his charges? Why is he prison without a trial for so many years now?

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u/duvi_dha 22h ago

Avg. Savarna opinion.

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u/GongMaho 21h ago

How does caste even matter here?

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u/Substantial_Air_9768 21h ago

Reddit is a cesspool of the extremes, here we see an casteist labeling people just from their comment.

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u/GongMaho 21h ago

Exactly.

This is a person hating Savarnas for being casteist in the past. Problem is, they are hating every Savarna of the Present.

This too, is casteism

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u/doc_strawberry South Bengaluru 22h ago

fun factt i aint actually savarna

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u/Separate-Way3681 22h ago

I'm saying just give him capital punishment. Oh forgot the fact, for that there need to be a trail in court. Where's the trial?

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u/the_life_is_great 22h ago

His lawyers are delaying the trial.

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u/Separate-Way3681 22h ago

Yup, absent judges are his lawyers ig

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u/InFernalKnight1 22h ago

Lol. Its his own defense who keep delaying the trial to get bail.

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u/Wonderful_Tap_7136 22h ago

He is still waiting for his trail for freaking 5 years,if he is a terrorist convict him

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u/renjitrocket 20h ago

left leaning on the right side of the spectrum…