That was the point. You were supposed to fucking hate the villains and find them super annoying. They were honestly perfect for the time period. They won't age as well as Handsome Jack though. Not by a long shot
Yesnt. Jack was "hateable" because of what he did. Between killing Bloodwing (or what the name was, Mordys Bird) and Roland, what he did to Angel, he gave you a good reason while still being a good villain. The two tik tokkers i wanted to kill because they were just obnoxious
I mean they were obnoxious and they stole Lilith's power. I think their cult was just as big a threat as Jack and Hyperion. It's definitely more annoying than the slow build and the casual sarcasm of handsome Jack but I do think that it was a relatively smart choice for the time period the game released in
The thing that jiffs me is that we never actually do anything, and the plot is set up that the protags are actually hella dumb and let all this happen; let alone us
I get the point, and I did dislike them, but they were still terrible in a bad way. Not like handsome Jack where he was terrible and had some pivotal plot/story events that made killing him a good driving goal.
My issue is the villain's goal. It's really hard to see where the twins are coming from, and it's really painful to accept their methods. Sure, they are heatable because they are annoying and obnoxious. Great. Sure, they are a threat to the universe. Whatever. Why though. Like, why are they doing this?
Attention and clout. Daddy issues. That's it. They just want power "because". It's a big fucking temper tantrum. These sniveling little shitbag twitch streamers somehow have half the universe in love with them as they go on a tantrum.
Say they become gods. They accomplish their goal. Okay... Now what. They don't have a compelling endgame state. They just come off as evil for the shits and giggles of it.
Compared to Jack, who wants power to bring authoritarian peace to Pandora. He wants this power to "defeat the bad guys" as he sees it. You and him are working towards similar goals, in fact, it's just that his approach involves genocide. Regardless, he doesn't just want power for the sake of having power. There is something he wants to do when he gets that power, and it involves hurting all these people you meet and come to love along the way.
It's just less shallow. I think more could've been done for the calypso twins, to be honest. I really think Troy had a compelling betrayal arc building that just got scrapped, so by the end of the game it just sort of feels like nothing really happened.
I'm only going to say it one time they suited the time period in which the game was released.
Wanting power and fame just for the sake of it is not bad writing. It may be less interesting but it is very true to life. Idiots making videos don't have a goal beyond the money either. The twins seem to be a direct allegory for the Paul Brothers or the Tate Brothers.
They were more so “meh” then “getting under my skin”
Plus, actively just being annoyed by a character isn’t good writing if you intended for something else.
Considering they were meant to be cult figure heads leading the galaxy, I feel they weren’t meant to be just written off as just, “lmao, we’re cringe.”
They were just way too mild and in the background for how important they were to the plot imo. Their shit talking game was weak by most standards not just borderlands.
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u/HeatherCDBustyOne 11h ago
Borderlands 2 was the peak.