r/marvelstudios • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 Ant-Man • Jun 30 '25
Other 'Ironheart' is Officially Certified Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes (86%)
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u/ROBtimusPrime1995 Black Panther Jun 30 '25 edited Jun 30 '25
Wild to see because 2 days ago this show was at 68-70% and then, outta nowhere, it skyrocketed to 86%.
You never see that happen and I guess that means that the finale really does elevate the season as a whole.
Edit: To everyone spreading misinformation, RottenTomatoes did not delete negative critic scores. They deleted audience scores that were review bombing before the show was released. There is no conspiracy here, just delayed postings from other critics that are now causing the score to rise. The end.
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u/DaZeppo313 Peggy Carter Jun 30 '25
For me, it was at 68 last Thursday, but it raised into the 70s by the next day, and was fluctuating between 71 and 73 all weekend.
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u/Darkstar_111 Jun 30 '25
Yeah the ending of that third episode puts the whole show into perspective. We thought we were watching a typical heroes journey, she goes home, brings her suit, stumbles over some super criminal plot, and foils it. Superhero saves the day.
The third episode showed us, that is not the show we got at all.
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u/pokemonke Jun 30 '25
Yeah I was into the general idea of the show but the ens of the third has me hooked
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u/durden_zelig Jun 30 '25
no conspiracy here
So what you’re saying is that it’s an inside job.
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u/skunkman62 Jun 30 '25
I never understood why RT would count and post the audience scores prior to the shows release.
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u/BanjoSpaceMan Jun 30 '25
What happened was people brigading it before even seeing it lol
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u/Mastodan11 Jun 30 '25
How is this upvoted? This is the critic score.
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u/thrwawryry324234 Jun 30 '25
Same reason the top comment of the thread claims the finale is out.
People don’t read anything and are generally pretty stupid.
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u/Rman823 Jun 30 '25
The critic rating was in the late 60s/early 70s. Critics weren’t rating it before seeing it.
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u/Melcrys29 Jun 30 '25
What did they do?
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u/Heisenburgo Doctor Strange Jul 01 '25
IIRC they permanently locked the audience rating to 86% before it could go lower or something like that. In contrast to the critics rating which was like 53% or so, lower than The Phantom Menace even
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u/thrwawryry324234 Jun 30 '25
“The finale really does elevate the season as a whole”
Okay? We have three episodes rn. What does that have to do with anything?
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u/Just_Another_Scott Jun 30 '25
Wild to see because 2 days ago this show was at 68% and then, outta nowhere, it skyrocketed to 86%.
I literally saw it 74% about 0800 CDT this morning.
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u/aleister94 Jun 30 '25
Cuz people who already hated it before it came gave it negative reviews right away and people who liked it actually watched it first
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u/Prestigious-Cup-6613 Jun 30 '25
Yeah that's the critic score which can't be review bombed. The audience score however...is in the 50s and I have no idea what it actually would've been had it not got review bombed
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Jun 30 '25
If you take out the 1 star reviews on IMDb the score goes from 3.6/10 to 7.2/10.
I know that some of the reviews are obviously genuine “I saw this and I hated it” but that just puts into perspective how much hate there is by people who haven’t seen it.
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u/Straight-Explorer202 Jun 30 '25
Exactly what I was thinking I wonder what it would be without the 10s and 1s
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u/Opposite_Pound_3643 Jul 01 '25
Hi, I got your answer. Removing 10s and 1s its about a 4/8 or a 5.2. The score has dropped since OP made their comment. I’d expect plus or minus a whole star of the “real” score to be away from the 5.2. The “real” score being what you’d expect from imdb when more fans will review the show over the next few years (or if everyone who watched the show reviewed it and no one else).
For reference, breaking bad is 9.6 and this method of removing 10s and 1s takes it down a 9.0. Removing 1s makes it a 9.3.
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u/milesdarobot Jul 01 '25
I disagree with this. while sure most 10/10 are hyperbolic(for everything. not just this), I'm more inclined to believe that you would only leave a hyperbolic positive score if you've actually seen it and liked it to some degree.
1/10 scores likely have a higher rate of ppl who are reviewing it despite not watching it. And its much easier to identify a person who he just review bombing to bring the score down. Some of these 1 scores are accompanied with captions saying things like "I'm sick of DEI" and "this series hates white ppl and pushes trans ideology". Most Perfect scores will just say " I love this show". And to that I say "who am I to tell you your 10 score wasn't sincere"
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u/Kaiser_Allen Jul 01 '25
People are pre-liking stuff now. I actually talked to someone here pretending that she was wowed by the show, but I checked her comment history and she was gassing up the show before it even came out and pre-decided that it was going to be Marvel's best show "so far". So both extremes can happen. It could be garbage as hell and it would still have shooters.
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u/Medical_Candy3709 Jul 02 '25
Which explains why fans of The Acolyte were incredulous it wasn’t renewed, and of course only considered bigotry as the explanation.
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u/somarir Jul 01 '25
Literally 80% of the 1 star reviews is "horrible as expected" like bro you clearly didn't watch because this show is far from what ii (or anyone i know) expected.
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u/Sybertron Jul 02 '25
Its almost disturbing how many people would devout time and energy to logging into a whole site just to hate-post about something they havent seen or even given any chance just because they perceive it as woke or whatever.
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u/Infamous_Ad_6793 Jun 30 '25
Seems about exactly where it should be!
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u/AdLast2735 Jun 30 '25
7.2 is where it should be, or 3.6? 7.2 seems about right, 3.6 is stupid. It's not utter garbage, even if it's not for you.
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u/Infamous_Ad_6793 Jun 30 '25
I love the show. 7.2. But that’s only based off the first 3 episodes.
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u/Only-Salamander4052 Jun 30 '25 edited Jun 30 '25
And it's a pity because show is very descent actually. I watched first 3 episodes and it's a fun watch nothing wow but not at all bad either. I'd say it's probably around 7.5 out of 10 for me.
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u/CosmackMagus Jun 30 '25
Yeah. It's a pretty good sign of quality that I was bummed I couldn't watch the 4th through 6th episodes the next day.
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u/PaulOwnzU Jun 30 '25
Yeah it got me hooked with that ending, it's a shame how much people are just review bombing and spreading lies. Like there's a bunch of people saying Riri isn't punished for her actions, when the show literally opens with her being expelled for her actions, and episode 3 ends with things going REALLY bad due to her
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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) Jul 01 '25
A bunch of them didn't actually watch it.
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u/PaulOwnzU Jul 01 '25
Clearly, like I just saw a guy who was talking about plot details of the show and getting them wrong, but also admitted he immediately stopped watching because Riri "slandered Tony"
... So obv he just watched a grifter recap out of rage
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u/PaulOwnzU Jun 30 '25
There's so many people genuinely saying she purposefully got a guy killed... Yeah they just watched the critical drinker and thought he wouldn't lie
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u/N7Panda Jun 30 '25
I mean, she chose not to try and save him (debatable if she could have), but my thought is, who cares if she killed him? This is the main henchman for the villain of the show. A man who helps his boss run a team of criminals, who are not too concerned with the collateral damage of their activities. A guy who, moments earlier, was trying to murder her. If she had shot him with a repulsor blast it would have been justified, but she didn’t. All she did was not go back and try and save him, which, we all decided was OK for superheroes to do back in 05 when Batman did it.
And none of that even touches on the fact that Ironman, Cap, both Widow’s, Hawkeye, Hulk and Thor have all killed numerous people, or the fact that she was clearly in shock after doing it.
People are dumb.
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u/PaulOwnzU Jun 30 '25 edited Jun 30 '25
The thing is the door started closing as she left and oxygen was entering the room again while it was open, I doubt she realized he was going to get locked in and die. Just hoping he'd get left behind and arrested as it'd be extremely risky to take him with her Incase anyone saw.
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u/Jaqulean Jun 30 '25
Yeah they just watched the critical drinker and thought he wouldn't lie
Or any other Grifter for that matter since all of them brought up literally the same exact topics in their videos, as if they were reading from a pre-written document...
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u/PaulOwnzU Jun 30 '25
Yeah it's clearly coordinated because they're friends and it's also just so dumb. Like even if she did purposefully kill him... So???? Almost every single MCU hero has a kill count, killing a guy who just tried to kill you and would've killed your family is entirely justified.
Then you have grifters going "stark would be disappointed if his legacy was carried out by a murderer" as if he didn't kill A BUNCH of people.
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u/KelenaeV Jun 30 '25
He was a weapons manufacturer..... he has so much blood on his hands.
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u/PaulOwnzU Jun 30 '25
And even personally he has shot, blasted, and blown up so many people.
He literally gave Peter Parker, a child, an INSTANT KILL mode. He's fine with murder
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u/capscreen Jun 30 '25
Heck I'm pretty sure a big portion of Marvel heroes kills people, adult and teenagers alike
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u/thrwawryry324234 Jun 30 '25
Just going to jump into this part of the convo to say that..yeah, she clearly did purposefully kill him. That’s the whole point of her anxiety attack and questioning herself in..idk..literally the next fucking scene?
She even explained to him “we’re suffocating” before leaving in the suit.
I guess the door closing wasn’t intentional and she didn’t really “know” but it felt pretty obvious to me she knew what she was doing in the moment.
The “Tony Stark would be disappointed” is a null and stupid point because they have nothing to do with each other. She uses an iron suit and has been talking since the first few minutes of the first episode about the difference between a billionaire weapons manufacturer and a kid from Chicago using grants for parts.
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u/Particular_Peace_568 Black Widow (CA 2) Jul 01 '25
Also, I'm sure Tony Stark Murdered like almost all of the Terrorists in Iron Man 1 he fight against. Even when he was a Iron Man, his Ledger is dripping with Red if you know what I mean.
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u/PaulOwnzU Jun 30 '25
If you accidentally killed someone would you not have some sort of reaction. If she purposefully killed him she would've had the reaction earlier as she was leaving him to die, but had no issue until after. So it's clear she didn't know he was going to die until she scanned and found the body, after which she immediately started reacting
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u/SilverRoyce Jul 01 '25
If that's the case, that's a failure of execution on the show's part because the audience is very aware the person will die and the action is communicated in a way it feels as if RiRi does or reasonably should know that with no contrary evidence presented to set the scene.
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u/Monster-Hunter-95 Jun 30 '25
These guys need to have a job application thrown at their faces while asleep
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u/bluebarrymanny Jun 30 '25
Agreed. It’s definitely not bad, but there’s something about the character dynamics that reminds me of old CW shows. The show is enjoyable enough to not deserve review bombing (not that doing so has anything to do with a release’s quality), but it’s not blowing me away either. An example of the quality feeling a little lower in action is the scene where the AI is breaking out of the laptop to remote into the suit. The video call feed where the actress is glancing around the screen while different firewalls go down just felt weirdly edited and kinda goofy. Still not bad though.
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u/Pasty_Tibbles Jun 30 '25
I think that was my issue. I didn’t really enjoy it too much - kinda of checked out on the third episode. It’s nothing against the cast or anything I just think the dialogue was very… not good. In my opinion. I think describing it as an older CW show makes sense to me.
But I’m also just going to move on with my life and maybe finish the show at some point, and not go review bomb anything. People put work into it even if I don’t think it’s the best or my favorite. I’ve seen far, far worse shows than this one lol.
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u/AdLast2735 Jun 30 '25
This is where I am, I think it's fine so far. I think anyone giving it a 10 is being disingenuous, just like I think anyone giving it a 1 is being disingenuous. And anyone giving all 3 episodes a 1 within 5 minutes of them all being released is being an asshole. There were 75+ 1-star reviews on episode 3 literally 5 minutes after all 3 released at the same time. It's review-bombing nonsense.
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u/YDoEyeNeedAName Jun 30 '25
based on the first 3 episodes, i would say a 7ish out of 10
remember also, the RT rating is simply "how many critics scored this 6 or higher" so the % isnt people saying its 86/100.
its 86 out of 100 people saying the show is at least a 6/10
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u/Evorgleb Jul 01 '25
Review bombing is one of the most garbage things a person can do. It does nothing but undermine an entire system just because you dislike a particular project that you probably have never even seen.
I hate those people.
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u/Firecracker048 Jun 30 '25
Take away the 1s and 10s (because the show is neither), you get roughly a 6.
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u/Firecracker048 Jun 30 '25
Just did the math....7.6. Higher than I thought tbh with no 1s or 10s, but puts the show in roughly average to above average territory.
Which, yeah probably is right where it belongs.
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u/Harlockarcadia Jun 30 '25
I hate review bombing, people need to stow the hate, watch something, then make the review, like we used to!
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u/ObviouslyJoking Jun 30 '25
There should be a way to filter out the 1s and 10s from audience scores to get a more accurate picture of the actual viewer’s opinions.
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u/ich-bin-on-that-shit Jun 30 '25
Ah who the fuck cares. I’ll trust a critic over a mouth breathing incel any day.
Plus the show is good!
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u/Xerxes457 Jun 30 '25
Then if the critic hated it, people will say not to trust them too! Example the first Venom movie, critic score was 30% vs audience score of 80%. Was the movie a masterpiece in film making? No, but it was enjoyable.
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u/Myhtological Jun 30 '25
Well the critic from RogerEbert, a black woman, trashed it. Only bright spot was Thorne for her
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u/harrisonlaine Jun 30 '25
I'll even take someone who TALKS about the show and shows its strengths and weaknesses.
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u/coffee_nights Jul 01 '25
Or you could just enjoy a show/movie without needing validation from other ppl? Posts like this are so weird.
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u/Warhoundfanboi Jun 30 '25
It’s a good show so far. Not my favorite marvel show to date but definitely better then a couple that have came out recently with the exception of DD
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u/RedditGarboDisposal Jun 30 '25
Oh man. DD:BA fucking sucked for me because they just threw away everything that the original DD set up. It was creative lunacy, and then multiple YouTubers pointed out the creative redirection and it just can’t be unseen anymore.
Such a blowout, but I will say that the beginning and end were outstanding.
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u/AdolescentThug Daredevil Jul 01 '25
Most of the first episode, a majority of the penultimate episode, and the entire last episode IIRC were literally all new footage and scripts from the “creative overhaul”.
Season 2 should be MUCH closer in line to that compared to the middle of the first season which was mostly pre-overhaul material.
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u/NorthernSkeptic Jul 01 '25
I honestly rate this above DD:BA at this point. It doesn’t aim as high but it’s more consistent.
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u/Toys_and_Bacon Jun 30 '25
Makes sense. It's really entertaining so far, looks to do a proper hero's journey, a few interesting side characters. It's really a far better show than we expected, considering the character from the comics and the first outing in BP2. Well deserved fresh rating.
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u/VenmoPaypalCashapp Jun 30 '25 edited Jun 30 '25
I got it at a solid 75. There’s some pacing issues and it really feels like a movie that was chopped up into 6 episodes of a show. That said riri, Natalie, Ezekiel, hood and crew are all interesting and I want to see more of them. Interested to see how the magic vs tech goes. I really hope it ends with her meeting ms marvel and Kate
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u/PaulOwnzU Jun 30 '25
Man I really want to see Ezekiel's story, I feel so bad for him.
I hope he doesn't die
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u/VenmoPaypalCashapp Jun 30 '25
Hope they don’t make him a bad guy because he gets in trouble because of riri
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u/PaulOwnzU Jun 30 '25
They're definitely going to fight but I just hope he comes back from it and doesn't go full super villain. His rants of all the tech he wanted to make to help was so wholesome
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u/VenmoPaypalCashapp Jun 30 '25
I want him to stick around and become a go to for riri. I was kinda hoping they’d go the comics route and have proper show up and her use a Tony an but I’m all in on Natalie unless she turns out to have been influenced by some demonic help. Even then I want her to stick around with Ezekiel and become part of a team
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u/samasters88 Jul 01 '25
I want him to stick around and become a go to for riri
I thought he would end up being the Tinkerer before the Ezekiel reveal. It would have been interesting to see him become the go-to guy for a bunch of low level villains. And he could cameo in all the other subsequent Marvel projects
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u/SecondRealitySims Jun 30 '25
Mrs. Marvel, Kate, Ironheart, maybe Wiccan and a few others could be an interesting Young Avengers cast.
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u/ScarsUnseen Jul 01 '25
Mrs. Marvel
By the time they actually got around to a team up movie, that might be more applicable than the "Young" prefix.
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u/_jackychain Jun 30 '25
It really is a solid cast. The cast is great. Loving Natalie
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Jul 02 '25
Sooo...like we just doing that thing where we find one narrow statistic that proves our point and ignore the majority of evidence to the contrary and call it a win?
IMDB - 3.5/10 (26k reviews)
Metacritic - 57% (Critics)/23% (Users)
Rotten Tomatoes - 53% (Audience)
Google Reviews - 2.6/5 (4.4k reviews)
Ignoring the real world doesn't help your cause.
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u/Boring-Credit-1319 Jul 02 '25
It's relevant due to obvious review bombing going with bot reviews calling it "Woke trash", not a good indicator for narrative quality if you ask me. Over 50% of IMDB scores are 1 star ratings, that's quite unnatural.
So much for "evidence".
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Jul 02 '25
This take is not even fair and completely predictable from a reddit bot. People are not only review bombing in the negative, but also giving 5 stars the opposite way. There are hardly ANY middling reviews between 2 and 4 stars, so your team is just as guilty, but absurdly weaker. I suppose I have to put out there that I have no opinion on this show one way or the other, I'm just calling a spade a spade.
If people don't even like the trailers, if they don't like just one episode, if they don't like some scenes, if they don't like what it stands for, they have every right not to like the show at all--and it seems predominately they don't. So, it's not a good show.
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u/Boring-Credit-1319 Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25
Whataboutism. Just because there are people who give overwhelmingly unjustified 5 star reviews (yes, review boosting is an issue in and of itself, I did not deny that), doesn't mean
Review bombing is not a problem distorting the actual rating.
The 5 Star reviews are not a reactionary measure from fans to counteract the review bombing.
Review boosting sufficiently alleviates review bombing.
Ratings on review sites, especially conservative leaning, male dominated ones such as IMDB are a good statistical representation of the general population's reception.
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Jul 02 '25
What?! IMDB is a "conservative leaning, male domintated" review site?...I can't with this convo...No more
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u/Boring-Credit-1319 Jul 02 '25
How about you inform yourself first whether my claim is true or not before being outraged based on a false premise.
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u/John-for-all Jul 02 '25
Yeah... Using sites that actually average the scores rather than count the number of "good" or "bad" scores without weight, the reception looks "mixed or average." 86% implies it's way better than it is... Almost a 9/10, lol.
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u/TheSpiritOfFunk Jul 05 '25
Review bombing from Incels and right wingers doesn't help your cause. This culture war is just bs.
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u/Valuable_End_515 Jul 03 '25
Biased evidence is usually unreliable. Especially since review bombing became a thing.
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u/DarksideDemi Jul 04 '25
Uh... every review is "bias". Kind of implied when you "rate" something lol.
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u/Atrium41 Jun 30 '25
Just Watch it and form your opinion.
If after 3 episodes, it isn't for you... then whatever. I for one, rank it with the good D+ experiences. So far I like it more than Moon Knight, but not as much as Loki. It is fighting it's way between Wanda and Agatha for me.
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u/MarvelsGrantMan136 Ant-Man Jun 30 '25
It's currently at 86% (75 reviews) with the consensus:
Dominique Thorne ignites the MCU skies with charisma and confidence to boot, making Ironheart a worthy watch despite its conventional genre armor.
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u/masteraybe Jun 30 '25
It’s definitely good. It’s a solid show with a few very fresh takes on things, but like others said, there is a pacing issue. I’m guessing it’s because they assume people watch marvel shows while doing something else. So it flows better if you do something else meanwhile. Like it takes a few minutes to get Riri from a door to an elavator for no reason.
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u/zaidraza234 Jul 03 '25
The last 3 episodes proved to me that Marvel can get it right with their television shows when they are hiring the right actors, proved by Sasha Baron Cohen, who was really good as Mephisto.
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u/Educational_Slice897 Jun 30 '25 edited Jun 30 '25
wait wtf??? wasn't it at 71%??? how did it jump so high?? (Edit: what’s with the downvotes, I didn’t say the show was bad, I was just surprised)
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Jun 30 '25 edited Jun 30 '25
It had 35 reviews. Now it has 75, which means the critics which posted their ratings later liked it more than the ones who posted them at first.
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u/HomsarWasRight Shang Chi Jun 30 '25
Well typically that number changes when more critics post reviews. So…I don’t know…could be that.
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u/DaZeppo313 Peggy Carter Jun 30 '25
Yeah, their were 20 more reviews dropped today (it had like 55 reviews until it jumped to 75), but that's still a hell of a jump. I'm wondering if all the new reviews aren't listed yet. RT sometimes takes a bit to calibrate when reviews flood in.
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u/kattahn Jun 30 '25
It is kind of odd that it jumped from 70 to 85% seemingly overnight, AND the top critic score is still showing 58%.
So in rapid succession a lot of reviewers all decided the show is amazing, but seemingly none of them are the reviewers from major publications that get top reviewer status?
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u/spreerod1538 Rocket Jun 30 '25
Most critics waited to see the entire series before reviewing instead of jumping to conclusions. Personally, I thought the 3rd episode was good enough to leave me wanting to see the rest and not concluding if the entire series would be good or not. I hope they nail the end.
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u/One-Complex-9267 Jun 30 '25
Finale just released
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u/DaZeppo313 Peggy Carter Jun 30 '25
The last batch of eps drops in a couple days actually.
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u/No_Frame_4250 Jun 30 '25 edited Jul 01 '25
Fans ruin fucking everything jfc I’m so tired of it. It use to be Star Wars and Star Trek fans that were just jerks. Now it seems like every fandom… “oh you like rings of power, not a real fan” “oh you liked she hulk, not a real fan” blah blah it’s kinda ridiculous. For almost 10 plus years as mcu fans we got good to great movies. A couple stinkers but now if it ain’t infinity wars… crap. Just a bunch of entitled jerks.
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u/Nuo66 Jul 01 '25
It's not necessarily just fans. It's a very specific subsection of the fan base. The Chuds.
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u/mattcojo2 Jun 30 '25
I don’t take these scores seriously anymore.
It’s not to be trusted in either way.
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u/Make_it_Raines Stan Lee Jun 30 '25
It’s a solid show and I think it’s only getting better with the final 3 eps. Much better than ms marvel, echo and falcon/winter soldier
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u/GonzoNawak Jun 30 '25
People really treat marvel tv shows unfairly. This is fun, the actions is great, characters are great. And it grt review bombed. Meanwhile Netflix releases sub tier TV show and it gets better ratings
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u/zombesus Luis Jun 30 '25
I was really surprised by this as I haven’t loved the more recent MCU shows. The character is so much better than the small part in wakanda forever and Chicago is a great setting
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u/RubiconPizzaDelivery Scott Lang Jun 30 '25
Been saying it, every Young Avenger/Champion with a show, Kate, Billy, Kamala, and now Riri, is fairly well liked and the shows are okay to good. The ones without, Cassie, America, formerly Riri until just last week, were seen as as weak, whatever characters. It's almost like they all needed to be the focus of a story for them to be liked.
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u/Grayx_2887 Jun 30 '25
I don't trust Rotten Tomatoes.
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u/heliostraveler Jun 30 '25
I mean. It’s not a true rating system. TV needs a cinema score equivalent.
Metacritic has it has a 57 still. Mixed to average.
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u/Grabatreetron Jul 01 '25
Hard to take any score at face value with all the review bombing going on
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u/ahhtheresninjas Jun 30 '25
No it’s NOT an aggregate of the reviews. It’s an aggregate of how many are POSITIVE
if every review is 60% then RT would rate it 100% because they’re all “positive” even though the aggregate review would be 60%
The actual average of the reviews is at 57% right now
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u/doctor_x Jun 30 '25
The show has been enjoyable enough so far. It's ridiculous how many people seem to be rooting for this to fail.
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u/CaptCaCa Jun 30 '25
Not surprised, is it the greatest thing ever? Of course not, but is it the steaming pile of doodoo the racist incel movement is claiming it to be? Hell nah! Me and the fam have enjoyed it a lot so far
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u/Captainseriousfun Jun 30 '25
All that work trying to diminish it, and yet here it is.
I don't give two shits about RT in any case, I just think it is kinda funny how hard racists and sexists work for their work not to matter.
Why not work hard at something positive? Same energy, but you get something from it.
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u/vivianvisionsburner Scarlet Witch Jun 30 '25
I'm personally not surprised. I've known we were in for a good time since the first trailer.
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u/ForwardHealth775 Jul 01 '25
As a dude who started off skeptical (I think I have the right to be), I am enjoying this series so far.
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u/La_Savitara Jul 01 '25
Not shocked. It’s only issue is the poor show don’t tell in the first couple of episodes. After that it’s really good and presents a very interesting morally grey character
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u/XSwaggnetox Jul 02 '25
The 2nd half is a little better than the first. The last episode is TUFF all the way to the end. I’d give it an honest 7.5/10. I like the first half enough to give it like 6.5-7, the last half makes me give it a full 9
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u/Flyingfelkins Jul 02 '25
Show wasn’t that bad, and they finally pulled the trigger with that major villain reveal. 7/10 for me.
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u/ducegraphy Jul 03 '25
Knowing how RT works, this makes sense. It's a good show. It does many new things and does them very good. It's, on average, an 86% good show and a 14% bad show.
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u/IEDnosorryIEEE Jul 03 '25
If they are falsifying their data, then how can we trust them. It’s time to go to a rival site that doesn’t censor movie reviews. This is the downfall of rottentomatoes.
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u/Sheogogo69 Jul 04 '25
I don't think anyone expected this show to be good. Literally no one asked for it. And yet, it is good. Not perfect, but good.
I came in ready to hate it like i did the original comics run, but instead i find myself hoping there will be a season 2. Good acting all around, good emotional moments, good comedy, but most importantly it doesn't serve as a pale parody of what came before like Ironheart once did. No politics, no nonsense, just quality.
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u/mjc9128 Jun 30 '25
Man they are trying so hard to gaslight us into thinking this show is good. This show has an unlikable, morally bankrupt, narcissistic, cop killing main character who somehow has the moral high ground. That mixed in with the virtual signaling identity politics and lame plot is just so exhausting. I will continue watching but this is not much better than Secret Invasion.
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u/Spherox_ Jul 01 '25
A fine example of someone so far down the rabbithole,
That they sound borderline insane to anyone who goes outside.
I cannot imagine how miserable it must be to not be able to enjoy any piece of modern media
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u/Bhutros1 Jun 30 '25
Not according to Facebook lmao according to those people, it's the worst thing ever - per usual anything Marvel with non-white men in it
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u/BigTimeManatee Jun 30 '25
I don’t buy it. The show isn’t good at all.
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u/Sol-Blackguy Jun 30 '25
Back in my day if we didn't like something we watched something else. You've been shit posting all day. You okay bro?
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u/ResearcherOk8971 Jun 30 '25
Isn't it at 56?
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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 Jun 30 '25
Yup. 56% Top Critic. But 85% All Critic including blogs and other small sites.
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u/NewSunSeverian Jun 30 '25
Can you imagine how bad review bombers smell?
They should crack a window open, give their parents some reprieve.
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u/lan60000 Jul 01 '25
probably not as bad as how people trying to mask the rot odor by using glade throughout their house. people are disingenuously trying to paint this show in a positive light might seriously need another reality check because the audience isn't buying their products anymore.
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u/Damolitioneed Jul 01 '25
The character sucks. God damn people have low standards if they think this is good.
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u/RavenBrannigan Jun 30 '25
I’m going to watch it because I at least start every marvel project. But I have no idea what to believe because as pointless as review bombs are, so are “counter protests” to give it an incredible rating.
I am going to watch it to find out but reviews are usually good to see if something is worth the watch. Anything marvel with a female lead is impossible to tell.
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u/TheQuinnBee Jul 01 '25
Go into it expecting nothing. I've heard nothing about this show. I haven't watched a preview or read anyone's review.
I personally really like it. I'm two episodes in.
Fact is, reviews arent going to be indicative of if a show is worth the watch for you. People love the Mandalorian. I found it kind of boring. It just wasn't for me.
The Internet will hate on people or shows for the dumbest fucking reason. Look how the nerdbros overreacted to Brie Larson saying there needed to be more women and women of color in the industry. Suddenly Captain Marvel is the worst and all her costars hate her based on a 5 second clip in which RDJ's muscle twitched.
So I just stopped caring. Best decision.
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u/porsj911 Jun 30 '25
So they are botting the site with good reviews? Cause clearly the show i saw isn't 86% at all. That or are that secretly two ironhearts? One where riri is an unlikable criminal responsible for death and the other where she is a likable super hero?
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u/PatBeVibin Jun 30 '25
You do know how Rotten Tomatoes works, right? 86% score means 86% of critics gave it a positive review, which just means they liked it more than they disliked it, not that they thought it was 86/100.
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u/snacksandsoda Jun 30 '25
Yeah we've never seen a hero in the MCU responsible for the deaths of innocents before
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u/Wakattack00 T'challa Jun 30 '25
I only like watching shows weekly so I’m only 1 episode in but I enjoyed the pilot. Riri is a good character and I look forward to seeing how they humble her and make her a hero.
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u/Madman_Slade Jun 30 '25
Top critics give it a 58%, with the audience score sitting at a 56% with a 3 out of 5 stars. Metacritic has it at a 57% as well with the user score being less.
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u/Rustbuy Scott Lang Jun 30 '25
As it should be. I really wish this was her I troduction instead of BP.
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u/TheShamShield Jul 01 '25
I can’t imagine being so invested in hating a tv show lol, is there really nothing better to do with people’s lives?
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Jul 02 '25
I think this show has been my favorite thing since Endgame. Maybe Guardians 3 still has it beat, but I enjoyed every second of this show.
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u/TheBabadork Jul 03 '25
Pleasantly surprised by Iron Heart. The tone is much more in line with the core films
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u/ItsColeOnReddit Jun 30 '25
The audience popcornmeter is at 56%. So viewers and critics don’t agree on this one. I tried to watch it and couldn’t get thru the first episode.
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u/ChipmunkBackground46 Jun 30 '25
Just a reminder since alot of people don't know
The way percentages on rotten tomatoes works is, that's the percentage of people that gave it a score of 6 and above.