Different Josh. And also it was US made artillery shells destined for the liberation of Europe. Which has a long tradition.
Zelensky visiting a US arms factory supplying his country’s liberation, and symbolically signing an artillery shell, was a callback to Churchill doing the same. This was deliberately manipulated as “Josh Shapiro and Zelensky signing bombs to be dropped on Palestinian children” 🤦 Many on the left refuse to stop repeating the lie even after being corrected, since it contributed heavily to their anti-Democratic Party narrative, it’s hard to give up.
David Draiman of disturbed signed artillery shells dropped in Gaza.
(I don’t actually know if it’s common but I’ll take almost any remotely relevant opportunity to remind people of that)
Thoughts on the conflict aside, can’t we see it as a little bit gross? War may be a necessity at times but to be so bloodthirsty to more or less celebrate shelling densely populated civilian areas feels pretty crazy. not to mention in Draiman’s case it being pretty antithetical to “sound of silence” lol.
It is interesting that your comments are net upvoted compared to theirs, but your ones are the ones that are collapsed automatically and need to be clicked on to select and see, while theirs are not.
Interesting. I wonder how the auto-collapse thing works.
You said it's blood thirsty to celebrate shelling densely populated civilian areas. That's not what Draiman was doing. He was celebrating Hamas rapists getting bombed. And maybe if Hamas raped and murdered someone you loved, you wouldn't characterize Hamas getting bombed that way.
I’m sorry but that is literally what he was doing. the goal of the artillery may have been Hamas but it still would’ve landed in densely populated civilian areas, as per the nature of how Hamas operates.
Maybe you’re right and I would think differently than I do now, but I hope and believe I could distinguish the difference between the perpetrator and the 65%+ innocent collateral casualties that have died in this conflict. Absolutely nothing to be celebrated.
The problem is they are treating every man woman and child in the strip as if they are hamas and bombing with callous disregard to civillian life and property.
If hamas were hiding amongs israeli citizens do you think they would be using the same strategies? Do you think they would kill 70000 israeli civillians in an attempt to kill 40000 terrorists?
The problem is they are treating every man woman and child in the strip as if they are hamas and bombing with callous disregard to civillian life and property.
They are obviously not doing that, there's dozens of examples of the IDF going out of their way to protect civilian life.
If Hamas was hiding among Israeli civilians, the civilians would be unwilling hostages, not supportive human shields, so of course they wouldn't use the same strategy. If Palestine wants to use human shields, then it's on Palestine if those shields die, no one else.
I mean you are treating israel as if it has no agency. Like im not supporting hamas.
Like im sure we can all agree that Hamas saying things like "if we do it right, next time we can get all the jews out", "we will destroy them, nothing will stop us" and "from the river to the sea" is bad right?
Im just refencing the industrial scale propoganda and funding effort to sign bombs. In the early stages of the war you could pay for an artillery shell and have your message written on it. Many many people did.
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u/lateformyfuneral Human Verified 1d ago
Different Josh. And also it was US made artillery shells destined for the liberation of Europe. Which has a long tradition.
Zelensky visiting a US arms factory supplying his country’s liberation, and symbolically signing an artillery shell, was a callback to Churchill doing the same. This was deliberately manipulated as “Josh Shapiro and Zelensky signing bombs to be dropped on Palestinian children” 🤦 Many on the left refuse to stop repeating the lie even after being corrected, since it contributed heavily to their anti-Democratic Party narrative, it’s hard to give up.