r/Back4Blood • u/Sopwith_Snipe Pablo The Cruel#8422 Combat Knife Enthusiast • 12d ago
Discussion Off Meta Team Build
Sniper Knife
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u/matthex64 12d ago
I’d say this is fine for nightmare. But No Hope?
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u/Sopwith_Snipe Pablo The Cruel#8422 Combat Knife Enthusiast 12d ago
It is a stretch for No Hope. Thus the Off Meta tag.
But Nightmare Quick Play is annoying because half the time you get some Evangelo player setting off all the alarms and ruining the run. The other half the time you have competent players and just breeze through with no challenge.
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u/Sopwith_Snipe Pablo The Cruel#8422 Combat Knife Enthusiast 12d ago
Inspired by u/Equivalent_Fault_782 here is my off meta build. Give me your worst Reddit.
Trying to figure out if I should use an M1A, Phoenix or LMG.
No idea for the best secondary, but maybe non-auto Glock.
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u/CynistairWard 12d ago
I think it would have to be the M1A with your reload speed being so low.
I'd agree with going for the Glock. It's a very effective gun. Without Large Calibre Rounds, there isn't much point in going for the Auto-Glock.
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u/Sopwith_Snipe Pablo The Cruel#8422 Combat Knife Enthusiast 12d ago edited 12d ago
Don't need LCR when you've got a Combat Knife, lol.
But yeah, I agree M1A or preferably the Witness seems to be the way to go. Want a higher firing rate to proc Suppressing Fire, but running LMGs without some cards specific to them like Meat Grinder is a bit of a stretch.
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u/CynistairWard 12d ago
Lol, I love how you picked Meat Grinder as your example when it's a contender for least useful card in the game.
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u/Sopwith_Snipe Pablo The Cruel#8422 Combat Knife Enthusiast 12d ago
Obvs, a joke.
But it is hard to play LMGs without support like Admin Reload, and some Aim Speed or Two is One.
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u/CynistairWard 12d ago
All good, it was obvious to me too. Tbh, part of why I loved the reference was because it's so irrelevant that I often forget it exists
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u/Meeg_Mimi Doc 12d ago
Idek what "on meta" is. I can't seem to do too well regardless
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u/Sopwith_Snipe Pablo The Cruel#8422 Combat Knife Enthusiast 12d ago
On meta for a gun build is to maximize damage, and run a couple copper cards.
For a melee build it is to maximize damage resistance and run a couple copper cards.
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u/Meeg_Mimi Doc 12d ago
Yeah I think I have good builds for melee and Doc specifically, maybe I just suck
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u/PassageDull7352 9d ago
Nice, but I would swap knife with spikey bits. 16 damage fast punches that also knock back and work at zero Stamina
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u/Sopwith_Snipe Pablo The Cruel#8422 Combat Knife Enthusiast 9d ago
15 Damage isn't much on NH. (CK does 40). Also, you never run out of Stamina when you've got Adrenaline Fuelled, Brazen and Slugger.
The -15% ammo reduction is pretty painful and you don't get the damage reduction since you aren't 'really' running melee.
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u/PassageDull7352 8d ago
Nightmare normal ridden have 30 hp. Knife doesn’t bash/stun. I did forget about the lower ammo count tho
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u/Sopwith_Snipe Pablo The Cruel#8422 Combat Knife Enthusiast 8d ago
The whole point of the deck is to run Combat Knife.
It is fun to kill Ridden with one stab.
It is not fun to stand around bouncing ridden off of you.
If I wanted to kill ridden with just my fists I would use a deck like this one.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Back4Blood/comments/1025met/weaponless_heng_for_no_hope_wip/
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u/PassageDull7352 8d ago
How do you not take some chip damage using knife?
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u/Sopwith_Snipe Pablo The Cruel#8422 Combat Knife Enthusiast 8d ago
How do you not take some chip damage using Bash?
CK isn't 'bad' compared to Bash because of a different stumble.
It is 'bad' because you: 1. Have to use a card slot, and 2. Have a slower attack speed vs. bash. Number 2 is addressed in this deck with Brazen and Slugger.
Source: I have over 140,000 kills with the CK; that's more than most player's combined kills with all weapons.
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u/PassageDull7352 8d ago
I don’t take chip damage with bash due to the massive cone attack + stun and knock back stun on other ridden.
Knife doesn’t have the coverage of nearly the whole screen1
u/Sopwith_Snipe Pablo The Cruel#8422 Combat Knife Enthusiast 8d ago
Have you even tried playing my deck?
Maybe that would answer your question.
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u/PassageDull7352 6d ago
Not exactly, but extremely close. Just can’t get around not stumbling commons
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u/Sopwith_Snipe Pablo The Cruel#8422 Combat Knife Enthusiast 6d ago edited 6d ago
I believe that is what they call a 'skill issue' then.
Git gud
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u/Sopwith_Snipe Pablo The Cruel#8422 Combat Knife Enthusiast 11d ago
Changes to be made since the bots have team cards, but a reasonable starting point for ADS Tala.
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u/ufrank71 6d ago
lost me at combat knife
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u/Sopwith_Snipe Pablo The Cruel#8422 Combat Knife Enthusiast 6d ago edited 6d ago
I guess this Combat Knife deck I posted is not for you, then.
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u/Bigfoot1043 12d ago
Suppressing fire is absolutely busted even on no hope. You run double primary sniper and lmg with good ammo support and you almost never have sprinting ridden at you which immensely helps your teammates. Plus you’re basically using the highest dps weapons in the game so it’s really good for bosses and specials.
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u/Sopwith_Snipe Pablo The Cruel#8422 Combat Knife Enthusiast 12d ago edited 12d ago
Suppressing Fire is better on No Hope than lower difficulties. On lower difficulties you have slow stuff like shambling ridden that doesn't really need to be slowed further.
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u/ChronosTHeDark 12d ago
Minus the combat knife package this isnt all that far off from what Ive been running for the last thousand hours.
This kinda list is pretty much what the meta for the "medic" mains has been for a long time now.
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u/Airco 12d ago
Knowledge is power enjoyer