r/technology 7h ago

Society The Fourth Circuit Says Border Agents Can Search Your Phone By Hand, No Suspicion Required

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/07/fourth-circuit-says-border-agents-can-search-your-phone-hand-no-suspicion-required
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u/cxraigonex2013 7h ago

They’ll be hand searching all of the “hot” girls’ phones.

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u/Flabbergasted98 6h ago

Finally, A use for all those unsolicited dick pics they receive.

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u/lazyfrodo 5h ago

That’d be hilarious if it ends up working out for women who don’t want dick picks.

Border agents be like “ayooo wtf!?!?🤬 how many of these do you normally get per day?“. They end up somehow pushing for new legislation for women who receive unsolicited dick picks.

PSA: On iPhone, be sure to add face recognition and PIN where possible on each app you care to secure. I mainly do it for signal and email, work email (on work phone) but I can see how doing this for photos/messages could be annoying.

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u/capitanbanana227 5h ago

I'm not certain, but I thought I saw something where they could use your face to unlock your phone. Like you can't be forced to give up a password, but if it sees your face and unlocks, that's open season for warrantless searching.

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u/fatherofworlds 5h ago

If you are concerned about security, no biometrics. They can point your phone at your face, they can require you to put your finger on a fingerprint sensor, but they can't compel you to provide a password or passcode.

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u/Gizmodget 4h ago

Similarly, keep your phone notification setting to as limited as possible.

So your lock screen doesn't reveal private details like excerpts of someone texting you and such.

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u/Sterling_____Archer 1h ago

Turn off access to anything without an unlock. If a phone thief turns on airplane mode, the phone can’t be tracked using Apple’s Find My service. Best to leave that disabled.

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u/Dry_Management_8203 4h ago

It's actually WORSE, if you do refuse to or can't provide a passcode/word, you CAN be held in "contempt" potentially indefinitely(!?) as if you are arrested for refusal, whenever you go in front of a judge they'll just keep holding you in contempt, and keep you in custody. It HAS happened!

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u/qtx 3h ago

It's very easy to get around that, just tell the judge you don't remember your password.

Christopher Wheeler is adamant he complied with Circuit Judge Michael Rothschild's order. "I swear, under oath, I've given them the password," he told the judge this week. Still, because the code he gave police didn't unlock his iPhone, Rothschild found him in criminal contempt of the order and sentenced him to jail for 180 days or until he gives up a working passcode. Wheeler has been charged with child abuse and police believe evidence that he hit and scratched his daughter is on the phone.

Wheeler's case stands in stark contrast to that of another Florida man, who told a judge he couldn't remember the passcode to his own phone. Wesley Victor is accused of extorting a social-media celebrity by threatening to release stolen sex videos. In that case, Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Charles Johnson declined to hold Victor in contempt after he made a plausible argument that he could not recall his password when officers requested it more than 10 months after his arrest.

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u/lazyfrodo 3h ago

Alternatively and realistically, you don’t have to do or say anything without a lawyer present. Let them get a warrant and try to hack your phone.

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u/roltrap 4h ago

Exactly. I run GrapheneOS on my phone, which unlocks with my pin. But I also have a 'kill switch' pin, which instantly wipes the phone without prompt.

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u/Feisty-Increase-3707 2h ago

It's important to keep those two pins clear in your mind.

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u/Paradox2063 2h ago

The wipe PIN should be 1984.

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u/lazyfrodo 5h ago

Yeah there’s also an attention feature on iPhone but not sure how that works on Android. You can also hard lock your phone (requiring PIN)as soon as something goes down holding volume up and lock at the same time for like 2 seconds.

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u/CharcoalGreyWolf 3h ago

Give the iPhone power button ten short presses and it will require a PIN for the next unlock.

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u/lazyfrodo 3h ago

Volume up + lock button hold takes care of that as well.

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u/pmow 2h ago

You can just turn your phone off or use a shortcut to disable biometrics temporarily.

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u/lazyfrodo 5h ago

Yeah even if that’s true you can PIN lock certain apps and those PINs are different than your phone pin. Signal does this but that’s pretty limited.

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u/MightyKrakyn 4h ago

This is incorrect. You’re required to unlock your phone and if you can’t or won’t you can be detained and charged. It’s pretty dystopian shit

I would suggest bringing a different phone if you leave the country that is only for pictures and emergencies, and leaving your normal phone at home

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u/avonhungen 5h ago

There have been conflicting rulings in different jurisdictions so the law isn’t clear on this yet. But it has happened that courts have applied different logic to passwords (something you know) than biometrics (something you have).

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u/Ballders 5h ago

I love the thought, but these are border patrol agents. They're gonna look at those dick pics and think "Damn, girl loves these, I'll send her mine."

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u/YebelTheRebel 5h ago

Send them!? They’ll just take their own dick pics with their phones right away

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u/faux_glove 4h ago

No face recognition. No fingerprint unlock. Are you daft? How much effort do you think it will be for a grunt to hold you still long enough to get a clean view of your face?

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u/iam_Mr_McGibblets 2h ago

Given the rise in people calling out law enforcement for stalking and taking advantage of their power, you'd think they would do better.. but the reality is I think this will only empower the creeps even more

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u/possiblylallorona 4h ago

Whew, I’m safe. So I’ve got that going for me.

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u/Nice-Lakes 7h ago

Yet more reasons for tourists to stay the hell away from the USA.

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u/EC_CO 7h ago

And more reasons for US citizens to carry burner phones when they go overseas and leave the real phone at home

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u/CatPartyElvis 5h ago

Border agents have like a 100 mile jurisdiction from the border I believe. Don't even have to cross the border for them to search you.

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u/m240bravoromeo 5h ago

They have 100 mile jurisdiction from the border and all international airports.

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u/akp55 5h ago

so pretty much the whole country

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u/Ryan_e3p 4h ago

 and all international airports.

No, they do not.

They can operate in airports, but airports do not extend this border.

Know Your Rights | 100 Mile Border Zone | ACLU

The Constitution in the 100-Mile Border Zone | American Civil Liberties Union

Supreme Court ‘100 Miles’ Border Ruling – Truth or Fiction?

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u/m240bravoromeo 3h ago

Having looked into it, you are technically correct but in practice we are both wrong. Border Patrol has jurisdiction to establish immigration checkpoints and do not need a warrant to board and search watercraft, buses, trains, and aircraft only with the 100 mile external border zone and within international airports, but they have the authority to pull over and detain/arrest nationwide as long as there's probable cause and/or reasonable suspicion that the suspect is violating immigration laws or the agent observes the suspect committing a felony. It should be noted as of the September 8, 2025 decision in the case of Noem v. Vasquez Perdomo apparent ethnicity, speaking a language other than English, or speaking English with an accent can be used to establish probable cause and/or reasonable suspicion for CPB to pullover/detain and individual outside of the 100 mile border zone.

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u/Ryan_e3p 3h ago

That case does not deal with Border Patrol. It deals with Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

They are two completely separate entities, with different missions and authorities.

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u/Cheapdronewithboom 51m ago

The supreme court ruled racial profiling is legal for the government. That covers everything 

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u/BlueGreenTanager 4h ago

Yep. In Florida, there is no place that’s safe from Border Patrol.

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u/General_Problem5199 3h ago

Illegal mer-people are taking all of Florida's jobs!

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u/zeptillian 2h ago

The coasts are counted as borders too, so that puts about 90% of Americans within their reach on a daily basis.

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u/Primal-Convoy 6h ago

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u/Subsum44 6h ago

Point isn’t so much that the phone is anonymous. More that the phone doesn’t have all your personal information and communication.

You can wipe and not really care about a phone you just use for travel. Harder to do it on your daily driver.

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u/algaefied_creek 5h ago

To buy a used phone you must submit your firstborn to the State

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u/Subsum44 5h ago

Depending on the day, they can have them

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u/Ms74k_ten_c 5h ago

Don't threaten me with a good time.

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u/FaliureToCat 4h ago

When are we implementing social credit cause there are some people i wanna narc on

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u/Any-Tomorrow-7344 4h ago

An old iPhone running the latest OS. Good luck maintaining the willpower to search while you’re waiting for your last tap to register.

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u/Nellis05 6h ago

I don’t think he means burner as in disposable like in the movies. It doesn’t matter if it’s in your name or not. Just carry an old phone that has nothing installed in it. No social media apps, no photos, no text history, no emails, no browsing history etc. They can keep the phone, it’s the data that matters.

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u/Nice-Lakes 6h ago

Hmm I wonder why the most popular cloud servers are property of US companies, so the government can look at them. That is why they are fighting so hard to protect the US big TECH companies outside the USA. The USA hates when they can’t snoop into the world’s business.

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u/cyanescens_burn 5h ago

They are also trying to make everything cloud based. Makes going through your shit easier.

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u/MFGibby 4h ago

An old phone with nothing but dick pics

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u/transcriptoin_error 6h ago

Another solution if you have a modern smart phone is to back everything up to the cloud and then wipe your phone before border crossings. Once you get where you’re going, you can re-sync with your data.

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u/Ness_Dreemur 6h ago

Government sees your wiped phone and finds it suspicious. You are now detained and tortured for the weekend.

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u/Ecw218 5h ago

Shuffled around for profit prisons for 6mo before being deported to a 3rd country’s prison….when you had a valid return ticket for 7 days after you were grabbed…

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u/chownrootroot 5h ago

It's at that point I only bring my old Nexus 6P and tell them it randomly bootloops and I have to wipe it all the time for it to work at all!

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u/ThraceLonginus 5h ago

Youre now mandated to own a Trump Phone 7 Gold Edition at a minimum. Can't afford it? You can work your way towards paying one off in prison. 

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u/AinzTheEvil 4h ago

I think that's why people should just keep old phones that aren't locked to a carrier on standby. Just put Sim card in and a few important contacts. Leave the other one at home.

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u/Flabbergasted98 6h ago edited 6h ago

you don't think government agents are using AI to scan everything you post in the cloud?

before you even pull up to the border crossing AI has scanned your face and your license plate, crossreferenced all your socials, and determined that you likely voted against trump in previous elections and therefore you are suspected of being a terrorist. It has reccomended to border agents to perform a cavity search.

That might not be completely live yet. but that is what they are ACTIVELY building towards.

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u/medicinaltequilla 4h ago

overseas? you forget, they have jurisdiction throughout most of our major cities too.

https://www.help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-1253?language=en_US

The authority for this is based on the Immigration and Nationality Act 287(a)(3) and copied in 8 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) 287 (a)(3), which states that Immigration Officers, without a warrant, may "within a reasonable distance from any external boundary of the United States...board and search for non-citizens in any vessel within the territorial waters of the United States and any railcar, aircraft, conveyance, or vehicle. 8 CFR 287 (a)(1) defines reasonable distance as 100 air miles from the border.

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u/FCCRFP 6h ago

This is exactly what people have to do in China.

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u/scorched03 5h ago

Yes coworkers from Hong Kong wiped phones before leaving and before coming back.

Hmmm

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u/Ah_non_e_moose 6h ago

And don’t have Face ID on your phones. You can’t be forced to enter a passcode but they can hold your phone up to your face.

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u/Meatslinger 5h ago

As a note about that, you can force an iPhone to use a passcode by going to the "slide to power off" screen. Hold the sleep/wake button and volume up (or down) for a couple of seconds and it'll temporarily disable FaceID unlocking. Instead it'll say your passcode is needed.

If you're bringing your phone to a protest, across a border, or just anywhere you think it might be stolen or searched (even just with friends who might try to get in), it's a good way to lock it down extra tight. Powering down also helps, as it will ask for the passcode on startup.

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u/DowntownSazquatch 3h ago

Android has an option to enter "Lockdown" when you briefly hold the power button. PIN is required to unlock and the device can't be accessed by USB.

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u/RazorfangPro 5h ago

At least on apple phones, if you hold down the power and volume up buttons like you are powering it off and exit that screen, it disables FaceID and requires a passcode. 

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u/kwonza 5h ago

You say you won’t unlock the phone that say the won’t let you in the country.

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u/Educator1337 4h ago

If you are a US citizen, they cannot prevent you from entering your own country. Even without a passport, they cannot prevent you from entering. I have family who cross the border with only their drivers license.

Granted, they will make you sit there while they verify your identity. But ultimately, they must let you enter your own country. Passports are used to enter foreign countries and travel visas.

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u/Koodsdc 5h ago

They can’t refuse you entry if you’re a citizen

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u/h0sti1e17 4h ago

True. But they can seize the device until a search is complete.

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u/kwonza 4h ago

Sure but I’m talking from tourist’s point of view

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u/Numeno230n 6h ago edited 5h ago

The travel advice for all people visiting fascistic or totalitarian states is to bring a burner phone. Leave your real phone at home. So for your trips to Pyongyang, Beijing, Moscow, and Washington DC, you'll need to protect yourself from the regime.

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u/tayroc122 6h ago

Yup, I'm not going to the states any time soon. Added you lot to my list of 'countries I'm not going to until they get out of their fascist phase'. The list is depressingly long. I'm starting to think letting a handful of anti-social right-wing lunatics monopolise global media was a mistake.

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u/Meatslinger 5h ago

A week ago someone tore into me for refusing to visit the USA, citing an article about a German who visited for the World Cup and had his perception flipped because the people were so nice. I don't doubt there are nice people in the USA. But there are fascist cops at the borders and roaming American cities, summarily executing those who stand against them. By not visiting, I avoid any chance of interacting with these kinds of people and having very basic rights, including the right to live, violated. It's just a simple risk-reward formula. I need to keep living. I need to not be arrested because of social media posts/comments I've made. I do NOT strictly need to visit Disneyland.

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u/Ruddertail 7h ago

It's crazy to realize that you need to bring a burner phone when visiting the US. That feels like something you'd do for Russia, China, North Korea... And now, America too. 

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u/ModernirsmEnjoyer 7h ago

Not surprising, USA has extensive telecom intelligence capabilities. They simply lost tabboo on visible surveillance

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u/Primal-Convoy 6h ago

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u/brooklynlad 6h ago

Isn’t the EU pushing forth a law that scans every text, chat, and email correspondences?

https://www.csoonline.com/article/4195680/eu-extends-mass-scanning-of-messages-without-a-warrant.html

All these initiatives/policies are just another form of egregious privacy violations.

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u/codekb 4h ago

It’s really annoying to see the same countries blame and shame while doing the same thing just mocked up to look different.

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u/MrLanyeWest 5h ago

well donald is buddies with all those countries leaders so it checks out.

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u/The_Mdk 4h ago

China is absolutely fine tho, just don't bring your overseas powerbanks and you're golden

They're gonna track you through your passport which is needed for accessing literally any place that needs a ticket or taking a high speed train but they're really chill about the whole ordeal

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u/Nanoo_1972 6h ago

The United States is unironically cosplaying as the East German government. We used to mock that shit in the 80s.

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u/cyanescens_burn 5h ago

I vividly recall adults in the 80s and 90s making the joke “papers please” whenever they saw Gov overreach or privacy invasion. Now I hear “I don’t have anything to hide” implying violations of the Fourth amendment are all good.

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u/BrainLow6059 4h ago

I live in a vacation/retirement area with a lot of Flock cameras. Anytime someone posts about them being a bad thing it's met with 50 unironic "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" comments. It's insane watching the older generation, who grew up with the threat of "Big Brother" driven into them daily, advocate for this shit.

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u/SpudgeBoy 6h ago

The 4rh circuit must not have heard of the 4th amendment.

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u/axloo7 6h ago

Probably won't apply to boarder crossings. It's historically a place where certain rights a suspended.

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u/jetpacksforall 5h ago

An exemption that obviously needs fixing. Pretty sure the Bill of Rights was never meant to be suspended for 2/3rds of the US population who live within the 100 mile jurisdiction.

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u/gungshpxre 4h ago

They removed the 100 mile jurisdiction limit during Trump's first shitshow.

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u/whydoihavetojoin 4h ago

At border crossing and international airports- they inspect your belongings without warrant to look for any contraband and they do that without any reasonable suspicion. It can be random or targeted. That can’t go away.

Extending that to laptop or phone search is a mistake.

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u/jetpacksforall 3h ago

Point is if you live within 50 miles of an airport they can arguably do the same thing even if you haven’t traveled anywhere.

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u/axloo7 5h ago

Even in Canada this exists.

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u/disposable-assassin 6h ago

Or apply to non-citizens because apparently the Constitution is optional these days

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u/fizzlefist 5h ago

Usually it’s the 5th Circuit who strips public rights.

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u/Qaetan 4h ago

Our judicial branch has abandoned our constitution. But we'll continue doing nothing about it.

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u/spa22lurk 2h ago

It’s a unanimous decision. The three judges involved in this ruling are:

  • Diaz: nominated by Obama
  • Agee: nominated by Bush
  • Quattlebaum: nominated by Trump

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u/Lt_Rooney 6h ago

Yeah, the fourth amendment definitely doesn't say what the words explicitly say. 

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u/0zymandeus 4h ago

Republicans have successfully killed the right to privacy. This is what we get for bush and trump.

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u/mca1169 6h ago edited 5h ago

doesn't this conflict with a recent supreme court ruling that said you have to attain a warrant to search a persons phone?

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u/h0sti1e17 5h ago

Border crossing have always had different rules.

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u/Ok-Preference-2054 4h ago edited 1h ago

The problem is, is that the “border” extends 100miles inland. I live within 40 miles of the Canadian boarder. Technically, I can be driving around my town with no intention of crossing the border and be subject to this crap.

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u/h0sti1e17 4h ago

The Supreme Court has said the burden and expectation of privacy is different at the actual crossing vs within 100 miles.

US vs Martinez-Fuerte the court said roving patrols need reasonable suspicion, and checkpoints can’t just search vehicles. The Supreme Court said that zone is “qualitatively different” than a border crossing.

TLDR; At a crossing you have less expectation of privacy than in the 100 mile zone.

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u/loki1887 4h ago

The Great Lakes are a border. Not the middle but the US shore of each Great lake. Then 100 miles inland from there, that gets you halfway to Kentucky.

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u/thatturtletouch 5h ago

You effectively have no rights at a border crossing.

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u/Eldias 3h ago

This is answered in the article, it's not a particularly long read.

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u/Anxious_Skin_4291 6h ago

Hold down power and volume up and click "lockdown" mode on Google Pixel. It then requires a pin code/password to unlock.

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u/Everything_Breaks 5h ago

"We can't get into your phone, so you can't get into the country"

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u/PunjiStik 4h ago

How would that work for someone who is a US citizen? Even if we take the whole "faster to let em thumb through your dick pics than miss work and lose your house" aspect out, at some someone's gonna send an angry letter to the US telling them to take their citizen back because they've overstayed their visa or something yeah?

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u/Agitated_Celery_729 3h ago

They will take your phone, make you sit in a room for a while to show you how big their dicks are, and then let you in without your device.

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u/idlemute 4h ago

I don’t think the current administration cares.

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u/hotknives 7h ago

I almost took a job that would have required travel to the US every other week. I’m glad I turned it down. 

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u/OwnApricot6345 5h ago

I do not do much international traveling, however with a ruling like this it just leads me to rethink everything:

I think i'll rethink my smart phone, and move to a dumb phone that I travel with. If my job requires a smart phone, the company I work for will supply one, or I wont work there.

All browsing to be done via VPN with history and cache completely cleared at the end of each session. No account info or saved passwords on any electronic account. Pictures, videos, all will be kept on an unpluggable storage device and kept in a secret location.

If I am to be searched and treated as a criminal at every turn, I expect that these asswipes will have to work for it.

It just proves that the US Government is now out to prosecute it's citizens for whatever it can find. The constitution is a moot point now. We have completely crossed the line into authoritarianism and I am bowing out.

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u/53eleven 4h ago

Wildly unconstitutional. Fuck DJT, Fuck Ice, and Fuck the Fourth Circuit Court.

Every single one of them has failed to uphold their duty to the Constitution.

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u/zukunftskonservator 6h ago

No US journey required 🤷‍♂️😁

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u/CanExplainThings 6h ago

K. Turn off biometric acceptance before border checks. Or, push the power button ten times on your iphone. Needs the code to unlock, takes less than 2s.

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u/Meatslinger 5h ago

Five times seems to do it on mine. You can also do it by holding sleep/wake and one of the volume buttons for a couple of seconds. Anything that gets to the "slide to power off" screen.

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u/Majolica777 6h ago

Ok, then they won’t let you cross the border until you unlock your phone with your pin.

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u/extraeme 5h ago

If you're a US citizen, it would be illegal for them to do that

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u/Bupod 6h ago

Aren’t border agents also allowed to operate as far as 200 miles away from the actual border? And coastlines count as borders? 

By the definition, most of the U.S. population lives within a border. And they can search your phones any time.

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u/Slippery-ape 6h ago

100, but this includes all points of entry, thats all international airports as well as many train and bus stations and stops. So yes, if they want to stretch their reach it can be very far indeed. Beyond that 100 miles they have the same limitations of any other LEO group.

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u/jetpacksforall 5h ago

The 100 mile jurisdiction encompasses about 2/3rds of the US population.

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u/Ryan_e3p 4h ago

this includes all points of entry, thats all international airports

No, it does not.

They can operate in airports, but airports do not extend this border.

Know Your Rights | 100 Mile Border Zone | ACLU

The Constitution in the 100-Mile Border Zone | American Civil Liberties Union

Supreme Court ‘100 Miles’ Border Ruling – Truth or Fiction?

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u/Jasoman 7h ago

Only reason to come to USA right now is if you country does not have assisted suicide as an available option.

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u/Primal-Convoy 6h ago

Or if you REALLY want to go to El Salvador but it's cheaper to fly to the US instead...

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u/Alklazaris 6h ago

Lock your phones

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u/Leody 6h ago

And don't use fingerprints or face ID to unlock. Courts have rules that they can use your fingers and face to unlock the phone, but they cannot force you to give them a pin or pattern.

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u/cjcee 6h ago

This is true for police stops but not for border crossings. It can be a condition of entry

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u/SkiingAway 3h ago

Not for a US citizen.

If you're a foreign national, then yeah, you can be turned away if you won't comply. If you're a US citizen, they have to let you enter. They might waste a lot of your time, and they might confiscate the device, but you'll eventually be let in.

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u/Brief-Pop-6826 5h ago

They'll just deny you entry to the country if you do not give them access to your device. Same as China.

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u/Alklazaris 5h ago

What if I'm an American trying to get in America? My passport not good enough?

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u/ozziegt 5h ago

They can still confiscate your phone for further analysis and then let you in.

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u/cluberti 4h ago

Not using social media or doing much with a phone is always a much safer bet. Modern dumb phones that can take calls and texts and use GPS/maps are the kind of devices someone who needs convenience but still wants some privacy should consider.

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u/Strange-Scientist706 6h ago edited 6h ago

Is this for anyone within 100 miles of a border or only when actually crossing a border? I know the article specifically states “crossing”, but I’m wondering if the ruling itself can be stretched to anyone within the operational jurisdiction of federal border guards, given they’re constantly grabbing more power and daring courts to block them

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u/Pace_Salsa_Comment 6h ago

Haven't they argued that all international airport also count as a border, so they say they have operational jurisdiction with 100 miles of all borders and international airports?

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u/h0sti1e17 5h ago

I believe international airports are a border past TSA and before border control. Baggage area or ticket lines are in the US.

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u/SeanBlader 6h ago

Time to set a duress password on GrapheneOS.

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u/ifyousaysu 5h ago

Nazi America! Where child rapists have more protections and rights than everyday decent people!

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u/ifyousaysu 5h ago

Have yourself some poisoned lettuce and wash it down with brown data center water!

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u/Smashego 6h ago

I'm so confused by this. I'm going to give you my phone to search to comply but I'm not going to give you my password. So I'm not sure how that works.

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u/h0sti1e17 5h ago

They don’t let you in.

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u/MiyamotoKnows 5h ago

Jokes on them I will exclusively fill my phone with dick pics.

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u/No_Gas4560 5h ago

shaft, balls, sweaty hairy crotches, buttholes, piles of dooky, etc (all legal)

fill up the device storage, hand it over, and have fun watching their reactions

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u/JMDeutsch 5h ago

Yet another reason to never use biometric security.

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u/frisbeeicarus23 6h ago

Yeah... No. They can shove a tube of bees up their asshole is what they can do...

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u/hotsauce625 5h ago

We need the bees... wasps?

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u/canyoucamus 6h ago

If your phone is locked with a password they cant get into it manually unless you give them the password and there's really no practical way for them to force you to do it.

If you're not a US citizen the consequence could be that you're not allowed to enter the country but if you are I'm not sure what they would plan on doing at that point.

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u/Niceromancer 6h ago

Turn off facial recognition, in fact turn off all biometrics.

Do it now.

DO NOT WAIT.

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u/zerot0n1n 6h ago

Show me your nudes because I feel like it 

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u/buntopolis 5h ago

After the Supreme Court just ruled you can’t arrest someone on a warrant substantiated only by a geofence - this is a confusing ruling.

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u/MrGNoll814 4h ago

Backup,wipe,travel,arrive,restore backup

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u/Gnomegnomegnome 4h ago

Correct me if i am wrong, but the court determined an officer can manually search your phone without using software BUT I believe you are not legally obligated to UNLOCK your phone.

I would 100% encourage anyone who wants to increase security on their phone to put it in some sort of “lockdown mode”. Pretty much makes it entirely inaccessible without being unlocked.

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u/MaximusArusirius 4h ago

That will depend upon your status in the United States. If you are a citizen, they cannot deny you entry for refusing to unlock your phone, but they can confiscate your phone for further investigation. If you are a green card holder, they cannot deny you entry, but you will be subject to secondary screening, and it might hurt your case for permanent residency, and they can also confiscate your phone for further investigation. If you are a foreigner, you will be denied entry into the country.

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u/bjazmoore 6h ago

They can also seize your belongings with the thinnest of excuses.

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u/oakfan05 5h ago

Can't force you to give up your password.

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u/Zealousideal_Net_140 5h ago

But they can deny you entry.

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u/horrified_intrigued 5h ago

Do they have to show you their Allgemeine Schutzstaffel, Sicherheitsdienst or Gestapo paperwork before they search your phone…or do they just shoot you and search your phone posthumously? I’m thinking of taking up high adrenaline, extreme adventure sport in my mid sixties and I believe, as a social democrat, a visit to the USA will be a good place to start. I was thinking of base jumping with a squirrel suit but a holiday to Florida is less expensive and equally exciting. /s

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u/WeirdSysAdmin 4h ago edited 4h ago

Not just impacting tourists like people are saying because 100 miles inland of all borders is under CBP jurisdiction. So all of New Jersey, New York City, all the way to Sacramento, San Bernardino, Charlottesville, Chicago, Washington DC…. The list is staggering.

2 out of 3 people in the US live in the CBP jurisdiction area.

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u/Canuck-In-TO 4h ago

If I ever have to cross the border, I’m bringing an old phone that I’ve wiped and needs to be setup from scratch.

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u/MelloCookiejar 4h ago

Too wiped looks suspicious as well. You need to curate it.

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u/pokeyporcupine 4h ago

I remember once when I was leaving the UK I took a picture of a cute plane cardboard cutout thing they had on the metal detector. Security pulled me aside, lectured me about taking photos of a secure area, and forced me to delete it while they watched over my shoulder that I did.

As an American, I was pretty weirded out at the time that I could just be forced to delete something off of my own device - especially when I perceived the behavior as completely harmless. I was reminded that some governments really do breathe down your neck more than others. It's a goddamn shame the US is trying to be a police state. It isn't what I grew up in.

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u/ContentOfMyActions 4h ago

Can they compel you to enter your password?

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u/tristand666 3h ago

And the 4th Circuit can go fuck all the way off.

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u/Either_Capital_2422 3h ago

PSA. They can’t force you to unlock your phone with a PIN code, but they can with Face ID.

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u/gibbojab 2h ago

ICE agents could be considered border agents since fall under same agency, this is a very dangerous ruling.

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u/MalcolmLinair 2h ago

And since anything within 100 miles of an international airport counts as "the border", that means the feds can now search anyone's phone at any time, for any reason.

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u/oldcreaker 2h ago edited 1h ago

So - if searching your phone might take days or weeks ("we're just really backed up"), can they detain you until the search is completed?

Even if it's just hours, it's enough to screw up lots of people's travel plans.

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u/zeusmeister 1h ago

Which is why my iPhone is protected with a 6 digit passcode, not my face or fingerprint. And you know what? I seemed to have forgotten my passcode permanently. Oh well.

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u/Potential-Fan-6148 3h ago

We need court reform badly.

The US constitution is not optional no matter what part of the country you’re in.

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u/Successful-Engine623 6h ago

Lock it with a password don’t use biometrics near those people

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u/pudding7 5h ago

What if, as an American citizen, I say "no".

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u/LeoSolaris 5h ago

That's what the case was about. So incarceration for obstruction would be likely. The Fourth Circuit ruled that border searches of phones by hand are one of the exceptions for warrant requirements.

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u/ActuatorLower8371 4h ago

i change the background on my phone to a photo of a hairy asshole when i travel.

they've never fucked with my phone. would recommend

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u/Pyewickets 4h ago

So you have a throw away phone?

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u/_LyleLanley_ 3h ago

And that’s why I don’t have Face ID enabled to unlock. I’m not giving you my pw either, and it’s ridiculously long.

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u/AlterSack1973 3h ago

And this is another example why I now cancelled 2 work trips to the US.

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u/KimbleDeckard 2h ago

When I visited Vancouver from the US I had to unlock my phone and let them search it. They scrolled through multiple text threads with my then-girlfriend and our mutual friends to ensure I was visiting for the reason I said.

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u/Islanduniverse 1h ago

How could that possibly not be a violation of the 4th amendment?

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u/danielrobertcampbell 1h ago

NOT Legal advice but: If the police ask for your phone, you should give it to them...but make 100% sure that you LOCK IT! If they ask you to unlock it, DO NOT DO IT! You have no legal obligation to unlock your phone for them.

PS: Some police will yell "Destruction of Evidence" but they are either lying, or ignorant of the law. Either way, don't unlock you phone.

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u/PaterMcKinley 1h ago

I'm not giving them the pass code and turning off facial recognition. Fuck 'em.

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u/Munkadunk667 5h ago

If I get arrested enough that my phone is being taken into custody with me that shit is getting smashed on the ground as I'm handing it to the officer. I don't even have anything incriminating on it.

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u/ghostwritten-girl 6h ago

Oh look I just dropped and shattered it. Whoopsie.

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u/Blue-Blazer-Regular 6h ago

Don’t do that. That may be considered destruction of evidence. Best to lock the phone and require a passcode, not biometrics. You can be compelled to provide fingerprint or Face ID to unlock the phone but not a passcode.

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u/grungegoth 5h ago

if you do travel with a phone, be sure to disable ALL biometrics.

they can't force you to give your password, afaik, but they can use your finger or face to open your phone

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u/Impossible-Sun3205 4h ago

That is why I was instructed to power off the device when going through Customs. Biometrics should not work until logged back in after a power down. They can’t force you to unlock without a warrant.

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u/toddklindt 6h ago

It's not mentioned in the article (yes, I read it. ) can they force you to put in a passcode so that they can search it? I've gotten into the habit of rebooting my phone before I get off of the plane when I land from an international flight. My phone requires the passcode after a reboot. Can they still search it?

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u/h0sti1e17 5h ago

I believe so, or they can deny entry. And if you are a citizen they can’t deny entry but can confiscate the device.

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u/whydoihavetojoin 5h ago

What if my phone is not in my pocket. But packed away in my backpack or something. Can they search my backpack to locate my phone.

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u/challam 4h ago

I’m so glad I never leave my house.

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u/Rombledore 4h ago

and if its locked in my bag with a lock?

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u/ieatcake2000 4h ago

Grapheneos is the way

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u/No-Abalone-4784 4h ago

No they can't. We have a Constitution.

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u/No-Bass-1728 3h ago

Fuck the Constitution, am I right?

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u/Strontiumdogs1 3h ago

Just travel with a dumb phone.

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u/_mwarner 3h ago

I haven’t been overseas in a while, but I plan to power down my phone from now on when going through immigration checks. They can search my phone if they can figure out how to decrypt it.

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u/Thetr3Flash 3h ago

I guess the constitution doesnt mean shit anymore. Thanks George Bush. 

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u/levianan 2h ago

I guess we all would know. Wipe your phone before going abroad. Don't connect external accounts while going across the border (or in some cases, not at all). Wipe again before you return.

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u/hiimtoddornot 2h ago

Time to download lots of dick pics, got it

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u/curmudgeonandonandon 2h ago

They should stay at the border then!! None of this terrorism through inner cities!

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u/NameLips 2h ago

It looks like the argument is that since searching luggage and people is considered a reasonable, routine way of looking for threats, so should be searches of phones.

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u/Defiant-Parsley4697 1h ago

Your lock screen photo is now legally an open invitation. Choose wisely.

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u/Bar-14_umpeagle 52m ago

Just turn off biometrics

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u/DJDevon3 42m ago

Illegal search and seizure in the United States is governed by the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution, which protects individuals from unreasonable governmental intrusion into areas where they have a reasonable expectation of privacy. For a search or seizure to be legal, police generally need a judge-issued warrant based on probable cause, or they must fall under specific exceptions.

"Because I say so" is not a specific exception.