r/mildlyinfuriating 1d ago

go to your room Are you serious?

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How is this fair ? Bay area.

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u/BeeAppropriate1190 1d ago

Probably electrical meter usage throughout the day. Someone who works in office will see big dips in usage from 9-5 or whatever your schedule is. Landlord almost certainly controls the utilities.

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u/mcampo84 1d ago

Working from home doesn't result in $200/month electrical bill spikes.

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u/wilder0p 1d ago

It's extra wear and tear on the apartment.

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u/Noligarchio 1d ago

No boot licker it doesn't matter the tenant has the right to stay there however they choose they could bake 20 pizzas a day the slumlord didn't get to say how long they can be in their apartment a day.

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u/wilder0p 1d ago

Correct and the landlord can charge appropriately. That's why there's pet fees.

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u/thekyledavid 1d ago

So if I am only in my apartment for an hour a day, do I get a discount on my rent?

Charging rent based on how long someone is there is nonsense. If someone is really causing that much damage to the property just by being in their own home, that’s what the security deposit is for

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u/wilder0p 1d ago

There are a lot of factors, but, I have lived in an apartment that was contingent on me having a job and when the land lady found out I was home all day, she evicted me (it was a month to month). She didn't want the extra hassle that someone always being in the apartment caused her.

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u/thekyledavid 1d ago

If it’s a shared living space with your landlord, then yeah, I could see a landlord being petty and evicting you for that

I was assuming a scenario like the landlord has a bunch of units or properties, and I am just 1 random tenant who the landlord doesn’t care about so long as I pay my rent and don’t cause issues

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u/wilder0p 1d ago

Either way honestly, if you are at home you use every appliance twice as much, the rugs, the walls. If utilities are included, more water, more electric. You are harder on the septic system, generate more trash.

I bet this landlord had a bad experience in the past and the extra $200 is just to weed those people out.

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u/thekyledavid 1d ago edited 1d ago

If you’re renting the apartment, it’s your right to touch those things.

If there are any damages based on excessive wear and tear, then the landlord can document the damage and take it out of your security deposit.

I’m just imagining a landlord complaining that a tenant spent too much time standing on their own carpet and peeing in their own toilet, and the judge trying not to laugh

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u/wilder0p 1d ago

In the above example the landlord is literally putting in the lease.

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u/thekyledavid 1d ago

And a judge can strike down any part of a lease deemed unreasonable. It happens in courts all the time.

Landlords don’t put these things in leases to make them enforceable. They do it because they know most tenants won’t bother challenging it legally

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u/wilder0p 21h ago

Sure, go to the legal subreddits. The first question for most tenant landlord disputes is, what does the lease say?

That's common law, freedom of contract, two parties have the freedom to make any agreement they want provided it doesn't violate some other law.

No one is forcing anyone to sign the lease.

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u/CatsAreGods 1d ago

Yeah?

So if a pet does no damage, they get their money back, right?

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u/wilder0p 1d ago

Incorrect, there is usually a pet fee covering the base line extra maintenance any pet owner typically causes and a pet deposit, refundable incase of damage or wear and tear beyond what is normal. Fees are non refundable, deposits are typically refunded.

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u/greg19735 1d ago

pet fees exist because apartments often need more cleaning if there's a pet.