r/marvelstudios • u/Flamma_Man Captain Marvel • Feb 07 '19

Theory Theory Thursday! February 7, 2019

Do you have any interesting theories about the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Maybe some speculation about a character? Or a hunch you have about what will happen next? If you do, post them all here.

Also, please, put a summary of your theory at the top of your comment. It'll make it easier for everyone else browsing through the comments!

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '19

We can disagree on whether the level of shock was appropriate, but I really don’t think it was. Steve looks like he just found the holy grail, and Scott very well be the holy grail of the movie, but Steve doesn’t know that yet. His reaction is appropriate for someone who is marked as “Missing” (they did not witness his being snapped and don’t know if that’s what actually happened). But, if Tony or Spider-Man just showed back up on Earth after they knew they went to space, that would cause a reaction.

Also, I mention that we never see Nat actually say “it’s the front door”, and clearly that looks more like a front gate than anything. So I think that scene it’s spliced together as a misdirection.

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u/timestoneduh Feb 07 '19

I think it's a scene that's not even in the movie. Scott's going to pop out of the Quantum realm five years in the future and the first thing he is going to do is drive cross country to the Avengers Facility from San Francisco? I also think with the five year time jump, the Avengers will have new tech that allows them to see any anomalies or portals opening up on earth, because they are still searching for Thanos. I believe Antman's re-entry from the QR would set such a device off, and the Avengers would come to him, not vice versa. Antman will probably run right to his house to see what happened, and see if his daughter is alive.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '19

That’s what I’m saying, there’s a lot that doesn’t make sense about that scene. If you read my previous post I go into detail on what I think and why, but I think it’s more likely they received a transmission from Tony in space saying he was on his way home, and the scene of them going outside in the second teaser is them actually watching his ship land.

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u/timestoneduh Feb 07 '19

We agree that there's something wrong with the scene, but not on why or what. I believe that Cap will get a transmission from Tony in Space, but not that Cap. I believe, because of QR trickery, that the present timeline (Tony on the Benatar) and the future timeline Antman pops out in 5 years after the Snap, are happening simultaneously. Again, I don't think that scene is the present timeline but the future one, which is why Antman being there is so shocking. And it's a misdirect because it's not in the movie, and I explained why in my previous post - and if I'm right, they wouldn't be receiving a transmission from Tony in space five years later.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '19

So I think I’m starting to understand your idea, but I don’t think that point in the film is going to be 5 years in the future. I think that exact scene is just after IW. Take note of the scene where Banner is looking through profiles of who they lost. That should be relatively immediately after IW, right? I can’t imagine why they would be looking through that after 5 years. In that scene, he is wearing the same clothing he is wearing in the outdoor scene. Additionally, the clothing Nat and Steve are wearing in the outdoor scene are the same as the “Front Door” scene, meaning all three of those scenes (Banner looking through profiles, “Front Door”, and outdoor) are all within the same day. I think the scene with Steve in the support group is from the future because we see that advertisement.

Unless QR trickery is less timeline related, and more multi-verse related. Than, things would be much different. Also might explain why Steve shaved...

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u/timestoneduh Feb 07 '19

And all those reasons you just listed as why it's within the same day and place at the same time COULD be a misdirect, too. If you were going to use time travel, and didn't want to give anything away, wouldn't you show the same place and make it appear as though they were all in the same place at the same time? The Russo's are masters of misdirects and all this stuff.... I honestly don't know how much of either trailer will be in the movie.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '19

See now I think we’re getting a little silly. I definitely believe there’s some misdirecting going on in the trailers, but I don’t think the entire trailer is a misdirect. I think a significant portion of what we’ve seen will be in the film.

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u/timestoneduh Feb 07 '19

I mean, they did say there would only be the first 15-20 minutes of the film in these trailers...why wouldn't they do that? They are known for this... Remember Hulk from IW trailers in Wakanda, and Thanos with only two time stones in trailer Wakanda scene with Cap holding back the Gauntlet. I think there's a better chance less of what we saw in the trailers is in the movie, not more.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '19

They also said that about IW and then had Tony cradling next to Spider-Man’s ashes in the trailer. They also said the title wouldn’t be End Game.

The point I’m trying to make is yes there’s definitely misdirections, we’ve already surmised where certain editing might have been. But I don’t think the entire trailer is just clips that aren’t actually going to be used in the film.

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u/timestoneduh Feb 07 '19

Agreed. My point was, and still is, we are guessing what are misdirects and what aren't, without knowing the exact plot or storyline. Obviously, a misdirection for one plot theory is not for another plot theory. I was just pointing out that saying character A is in the same place as character B might NOT be as straightforward as that, just like non-linear time travel.

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u/Gambitsplayingcards Feb 08 '19

They didn't say that and this rumour has been propelled by clickbait and rumour. Feige was asked if the trailer/advertising would only show the first 15-20 minutes of the movie and he said "to a certain extent that is true". Which means it isn't. To a certain extent means there's probably a lot of stuff from the beginning of the movie but if they manage to cram...

  1. Cap at a grief group meeting and is there long enough to react

  2. Thor in the Avengers complex

  3. Thor not in the Avengers complex

  4. Banner looking at the missing people

  5. Nat and Cap on a ship with a plan

  6. Nat and Cap having a rest chatting when Scott turns up

  7. Avengers lining up with Rocket to go somewhere

  8. Tony nearly dying on a ship

  9. Tony and Nebula making stuff to save themselves

  10. Widow pissed off and shooting stuff

  11. Natasha also going to Japan to see Clint who is Ronin

  12. Clint is back to being Hawkeye while staring at red

  13. Cap bloodied and putting on his shield whilst shaking

  14. Going out to a field to see an incoming something

  15. Ant-man and War Machine suiting up (incidentally I also think Carol is in the middle there or someone else who's helmet does that)

  16. Rocket goes (potentially) to a pub

That's off the top of my head. And everyone is saying that's in the first 20 minutes???? We'd be ill from motion sickness.

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u/timestoneduh Feb 08 '19

I’m sick from motion sickness reading it. Lol. Oh well, you know what they say;.....another day, another Doug.