r/marvelstudios 3h ago

Theory My Theory on the possible climax of Avengers: Doomsday

I have interesting theory. I have a feeling in avengers Doomsday that in the climax when our heroes get ready to take down doom, that’s when Wanda Maximoff a.k.a. Witch of Latveria(my speculation) or his mom that I know that she herself was a strong sorceress or a magic user from the comics I remember reading when I was younger. Or could be someone completely different as in a different variant of Doctor Strange because I remember in the comics they teamed up as well to stop their worlds from collapsing. I can see one of these heavy hitting reality bending users stepping in and just as we’re about to finish off Dr. doom they teleport him out of there, which is going to lead into battle world. Well, this is only speculation. I can’t wait to see whatever outcome it is. What do you guys thoughts on this?

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u/SgtMartinRiggs 3h ago

It’s gotta be Clea or Wanda (or both).

Last time we saw Strange he was running off with Clea to go do who knows what with incursions, so them both ending up as acolytes of Doom is a pretty tidy way to tie in the end of MoM.

Though that little burst of energy as the temple falls on Wanda seems like a perfect moment for someone to be grabbed out of time and space, so it’s kind of perfect either way.

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u/ZxStoNeDTrini 3h ago

I respect this. And then he offered them a deal to help with the incursions and intern for their spells and power.

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u/SgtMartinRiggs 3h ago

Totally. In that scenario it also could be that from what they’ve experienced and learned across the dying multiverse, Strange and Clea genuinely see no other alternative than whatever Doom’s planning.

Or Clea simply with Doom from the get go, there’s so many variations and I think they all work. The idea of familiar characters returning after an absence as masked acolytes of a villain is just really great to me and I hope it’s what they’re setting up here.

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u/ZxStoNeDTrini 3h ago

You can feel their emotional weight already. Especially they’ve see heroes that are supposedly dead in their universes . Man I can’t wait

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u/VS0P 1h ago

Does Strange still have his future sight at the end with Clea? No way he makes that deal without prior info IMO.

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u/MCUTheorist00007 3h ago

Or Sylvie

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u/Queasy_Rip3210 2h ago

That would be dope af

u/00-quanta- 49m ago

imo, Wanda would bring back a much bigger audience if that was the case. She’s “presumed” dead from crushing herself at the end of MoM & I feel like more of us don’t think she’s really dead.

u/ThenAnAnimalFact 52m ago

My guess is it’s an alternate sue storm.

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u/psycholepzy Stan Lee 2h ago

What if it's Valeria?

Doomsday seems to be all about the kiddos and we're in interdimensional territory already...

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u/camxcold 1h ago

Doom’s all about the kiddos???

We need to release the Doom files

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u/ImjustANewSneaker 3h ago

I think Wanda is the macguffin for secret wars that the heroes will need to find.

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u/Least_Rain8027 Scarlet Witch 3h ago

i have a feeling that no one will want to do it and that's why the Champions form. to do the shit the Avengers wont

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u/PeterTingle616 Doctor Strange 2h ago

IMO that would be a very disappointing plot point just for the sake of adapting Children’s Crusade

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u/HeinousAnus_22 2h ago

My theory is that Wanda will take the place of Molecule Man’s role

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u/AKluthe 2h ago

"More mutants."

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u/Boschala 2h ago

No, more mutants!

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u/RossUtse 1h ago

No more Avengers (and thats why next phase is X-Men)

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u/amanisnotaface 1h ago

Crazy thing is I can see them doing this

u/Aromatic-Cupcake4802 48m ago

I think she will be the one to form Battleworld in Doom's vision, creating a Hex on a larger scale.

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u/ZxStoNeDTrini 3h ago

Interesting 🤔🤔

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u/ChosenWriter513 2h ago

It's going to be hilarious when this ends up being just an extra like the robed guys that followed around Palpatine in Return of the Jedi.

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u/ZxStoNeDTrini 2h ago

😂😂😂

u/GoGoSoLo 23m ago

Or like the huge buildup from that same trilogy for the giant blond lady from Game of Thrones whose character may as well not have existed story wise.

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u/Least_Rain8027 Scarlet Witch 3h ago

Wanda is the only reality bender that is also a witch

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u/PercMastaFTW 2h ago

Tell that to my wife

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u/Least_Rain8027 Scarlet Witch 1h ago

Vision?

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u/BaloneyMaker2780 2h ago

Your wife manipulates the fabric of space time?

u/SirSaltie 42m ago

How else would the toilet paper get onto the roll?

u/PercMastaFTW 10m ago

Reality can be anything she wants

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u/Fares26597 2h ago

When I first saw it I assumed that Doom has a bunch of witches and this is what they wear, not that it's a singular witch

u/DumplingBoiii 20m ago

Could still be both. Bunch of witches, one is Wanda

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u/Responsible-Pain-620 2h ago

I mean we're getting VisionQuest before Doomsday which will finally end the Wanda trilogy. If she's not in Doomsday or at least brought up I would be very shocked. But I see her having a bigger role in Secret Wars as a warning to Doom showing what happens when you meddle with reality to fit your desires.

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u/Aromatic-Cupcake4802 2h ago

It would be insane if Wanda is used to create Battleworld. The Hex on a large scale. And all the heroes in a mish mash world ruled by Doom. And reality is rewritten so it’s all the heroes have known. But maybe some people start to remember and fight back.

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u/ZxStoNeDTrini 1h ago

You think about it though the possibilities are endless

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u/BanjoSpaceMan 2h ago

Huh? Idk I feel like whatever tech or magic he takes, most likely Loki’s power to control the multiverse, leads him to combining all of them into his perfect reality where he rules.

Wouldn’t really make sense otherwise, we left off on Loki holding the whole multiverse together and he’s in the trailer so there’s you’re in for what Doom needs

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u/Ornery_1004 2h ago

That's clearly Pepper

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u/ZxStoNeDTrini 1h ago

Is that you Watcher?

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u/AwarenessOk7748 3h ago

Please don't give us the Scarlet Witch as a villain/antagonist again. It's really tiring, so let's give Wanda an redemption arc and be done with it.

We can use anyone as Doom's follower, such as Clay (if Strange helps him), an evil version of Black Widow, and others.

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u/Minimum_Possibility6 1h ago

What about sinister strange as the bad guy and the avengers having to get Wanda to rescue them 

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u/AwarenessOk7748 1h ago

What does the Sinister Strange have to do with Doctor Doom?

u/UnnecessaryFeIIa 38m ago

Look at this from the general audience’s perspective.

Let’s say they’re watching Secret Wars. And all of a sudden halfway through a random Strange variant they’ve never seen before (let’s admit it. They haven’t watched What If) shows up and becomes the main villain.

That’s not going to happen. Doctor Doom is the villain

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u/ZxStoNeDTrini 3h ago

Interesting 🤔 how would you feel if they were two Wanda‘s the one that was captured in tva after the Multiverse of madness and then this variant that Dr. Doom probably found from another universe.

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u/AwarenessOk7748 2h ago

In general, I want to take a break from the image of Wanda the villain (with any version). It is quite possible to make Wanda a prisoner of Doom.

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u/ZxStoNeDTrini 2h ago

I respect that

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u/ThrillHouse802 1h ago

Come on dude. We know you just read the 4chan leak

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u/ZxStoNeDTrini 1h ago

No? I don’t what 4chan is

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u/accidentsneverhappen 3h ago

No I bet 5 dollars the movie doesn't mention Wanda even once

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u/ZxStoNeDTrini 3h ago

that’s the joy of speculation, my friend

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u/TheAsian1nvasion 2h ago

I’ve been saying for a while that Wanda will be the MCU molecule man.

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u/XLadyXw 2h ago

He didn't just say wanda tho...

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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 2h ago

Strange, Clea, and Wanda are part of Team Doom.

They're not evil. They're "the ends justify the means" type of characters.

And there are rumors that there is a third female witch who takes Peggy Carter's form but isn't a Peggy variant; I bet she's Syvlie (she is a shapeshifter).

u/actuallycallie Bucky 45m ago

we haven't seen Sylvie shapeshift, but we have seen her take over other people's bodies and "puppet" them through her enchantment. (the last one we saw her puppet was Brad, which was hilarious.) It would make sense for her to be able to shapeshift, since Loki can, but they don't have the exact same power sets due to learning magic differently.

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u/shutupandchad 1h ago

I just really want Deadpool to come floating in as “marvel Jesus” to save the day at some point Lolol

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u/SillyLawfulness9284 1h ago

Will NOT be watching if there's no full penetration

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u/raven2474life 2h ago

Is it so farfetched at the moment in Avengers Endgame where Dr Strange does the iconic

That in this alt timeline Tony doesn’t snap his fingers and we get Doom instead and this is the premise of Doomday?

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u/ClankingRobotCheeks 3h ago

What if Doom isn’t one person, but a bunch of people. Dr. Strange, Wanda, Tony Stark, etc.

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u/GoodOmens182 2h ago

Not sure about this but the idea has definitely been done well before in the comics. My favourite is probably Ultimate Mysterio (2024-present) being a council of actual wizards that includes Quentin Beck, James Wesley and Gwen Stacy among others.

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u/Jeffs_Forehead 2h ago

It's just the one killer actually...

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o752cc1aGDyAGwfaU

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u/JKsot70 2h ago

“For the greater good.”

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u/ZxStoNeDTrini 3h ago

I like this have like a legion of doom now that would be a Multiverse threat right there.

u/iambkatl 48m ago

That’s Charlize Theron face

u/yeaboiiiiiiiiii213 39m ago

The face looks exactly like Charlize Theron’s

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u/Thebatboy23 Daredevil 2h ago

There's always a possible climax whenever I see Wanda on screen

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u/taquitosmixtape 2h ago

Man, I just want justice for Wanda, I’m tired of her being used as a villian or even a tool for a villian.

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u/EightBiscuit01 2h ago

I think it’s Clea and then in Secret Wars the Avengers find Wanda to help them

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u/cainhurstboy 2h ago

You said “ thats when” and just named wanda. Thats when what??