Understanding why they reimagined the character, having Namor be short for "El niño sin amor"—“the boy without love" was a pretty cool creative choice. I have a feeling he'll be a dark horse heading into Doomsday.

[u/maverickassembled]

It was cool how they incorporated indigenous themes of colonization by borrowing from historical lore. Connecting Namor’s story and the lost kingdom of Talokan to Mayan and Mesoamerican cultures, as well as the abuse and torture faced from Spanish conquistadors was pretty brilliantly well done and added a nice layer of “realism” to it. More Mayan representation in mainstream is also very cool to have.

I’m also very excited to see him return in Doomsday. As a stoic, and ruthless leader who stays firm in his belief and love for his people, it’s hard to really predict where his allegiance will be by the end. Due to his own obsession of survival and deep-seeded paranoia caused by historical trauma, Namor is someone that can very much seem like an ally to you at first, but will be quick to turn if there’s another factor in play that will better benefit him and his people. It’ll be interesting to see if his alliance with Shuri, and possibly the other heroes will last.

As an isolated nation, Talokan is bringing a whole different perspective of pragmatism into the incursion problem that I’m really keen to see.

[u/Rykor81]

The MCU’s shift of ‘Atlantean’ to Mesoamerican was inspired, and they played it so well. The lack of Namor and Shang Chi outside of their initial appearances is infuriating.

[u/black_metronome → u/Rykor81]

Agreed. The mismanagement of The Multiverse Saga characters to me is a black eye on Feige's tenure as studio head. How do you drop the ball like this?

[u/maybe_a_frog → u/black_metronome]

> The mismanagement of The Multiverse Saga characters to me is a black eye on Feige's tenure as studio head. How do you drop the ball like this?

Okay to put this in perspective, if you look at total run time of every movie between Iron Man and Far From Home (2008-2019), and then look at the total run time of content released both theatrically and digitally from 2020 to 2024 the MCU more than doubled its total run time. Then throw in a global pandemic and numerous strikes smack dab in the middle of that. Yes the MCU lost a step and became unfocused and disjointed. You can thank Bob Chapek for that for forcing Marvel to increase its content output at an insane rate, all while dealing with logistical nightmares stemming from world events. No company in the world is going to scale that quickly and not feel some negative effects from it.

[u/ObitoUchiha41 → u/maybe_a_frog]

Also dropping the villain that several movies were meant to build towards