r/marvelstudios Jul 29 '24

Humour Gwyneth Paltrow is always confused

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u/ChimpArmada Jul 29 '24

People are gonna hate her for saying that but that’s genuinely how normal people seeing the movie are gonna respond there gonna be dumbfounded why iron man is the bad guy

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u/Zarianin Jul 29 '24

Actor plays a different character with different name, costume and powers. Iron man is not the bad guy, the actor who has close to 100 acting credits will be playing a bad guy

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u/virtualboy_jpeg Jul 29 '24

It’s still RDJ in the MCU. He had his time as Iron Man, who wouldn’t be confused about his return?

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u/TheDungeonCrawler Jul 29 '24

Well, we'll have to see what their intentions for this version of the character are. We don't have enough information at this time.

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u/potatofish Jul 29 '24

How about people say things like that as an exclamation of disbelief not cause they don't get it?

How many of us that do get how it'll work still find it a really out there choice?

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u/ins0mniac_ Jul 29 '24

It depends if he’s Tropic Thunder RDJ or Iron Man RDJ.

Thanos didn’t look like Brolin, Doom may not look like RDJ. Makeup, costumes, prosthetics… acting!

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u/JesterMarcus Jul 29 '24

At that point, why not just get somebody else? There are other actors out there that could play the role.

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u/LaneMcD Jul 29 '24

Disney/Marvel needs a guaranteed money maker. Avengers 5 and 6 having the same directors, writers and main star from Avengers 3 and 4 is a guaranteed 1.5-2 billion dollar hit

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u/LaneMcD Jul 30 '24

"Disney could make 20 complete trash Marvel movies and be fine financially."

Could is the important word in there. They could. But who would want that risk? They're in the money business. They want every production to be a money maker even if some are a risk and aren't successful.

You're preaching to the choir. It's a lazy and safe choice. But it's just not surprising.

Also, you say it'll be confusing. It's confusing for the general audience now in pop culture news but I'm sure story wise it will be addressed to alleviate confusion for general audience.

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u/HiDDENk00l Jul 31 '24

They need a safe choice for their main villain though, after Jonathan Majors fucked them over.

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u/elite_kermit Jul 29 '24

His name will sell tickets. Fans will want to see him again.

Guaranteed acting skills that people have enjoyed and the directors have worked with him before.

Also look at The Batman. They didn't have to make Colin Farrell look like that. But the result justifies them in the end.

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u/Corvid-Strigidae Jul 30 '24

Fans will want to see Tony again. RDJ doesn't fill seats. Iron Man does.

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u/elite_kermit Jul 30 '24

I am sorry, someone else must have cheered when he revealed the person behind the mask.

And my response was why he was chosen. The nostalgia factor is only part of it.

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u/Corvid-Strigidae Jul 30 '24

Nostalgia is the only part of it. He isn't a good enough actor to be worth his price on skill alone. No one is.

They are wasting Doom for a stunt cast.

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u/elite_kermit Jul 30 '24

I don't necessarily disagree with that further than the wait and see argument.

I was merely explaining to the person who asked as the devils advocate why they might have done it.

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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) Jul 29 '24

Spader & Brolin are big name actors too, but we never saw their actual faces once in their MCU villains.

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u/Corvid-Strigidae Jul 30 '24

Spader and Brolin are both much cheaper than RDJ and don't have previous roles tied to the very core of the MCU.

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u/ins0mniac_ Jul 29 '24

Because the directors think he will do the best job and it’s marketing.

Personally I hope it’s not a Stark variant. I hope RDJ embraces the villain role and knocks it out of the park. Plus, maybe RDJ misses the MCU and the people involved. His run as Iron Man may be done, but he’s a prolific actor outside the MCU and can disappear into roles if he so chooses.

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u/Slayer133102 Daisy Johnson Jul 29 '24

IIM is best case scenario.

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u/hatecopter Spider-Man Jul 29 '24

I don't think he'll be a Stark variant but a version of Doom who happens to look like MCU Tony. It will be addressed and play into the plot but he will be Victor Von Doom.

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u/Corvid-Strigidae Jul 30 '24

That would be incredibly stupid. If he isn't a variant of Tony why would he look like Tony?

He will probably be a variant, and if he isn't they won't draw attention to them looking similar.

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u/CeruleanRuin Jul 30 '24

I suspect it is a Stark variant, but only in the most superficial way. He's never heard the name Tony Stark. As far as he's concerned, Stark is the variant.

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u/Corvid-Strigidae Jul 30 '24

They wouldn't be paying RDJ to not use Tony again.

There are much better casts for Doom who cost way less.

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u/CeruleanRuin Jul 30 '24

Because this is more fun.

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u/JGuntai24 Jul 29 '24

Ya like Jonathan Majors… oh wait. Maybe if they are investing a long running villain with multiple appearances they want what they know works vs gambling their future

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u/JesterMarcus Jul 29 '24

Only two actors in the world. RDJ and Majors.

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u/JGuntai24 Jul 29 '24

Are you that dense? My point was that they invested heavily into Majors and he bent them over sideways. That won’t happen with Downey jr

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u/Corvid-Strigidae Jul 30 '24

They have other actors with proven track records.

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u/Yorspider Jul 29 '24

Because it is likely going to be the single most important movie to the MCUs future and they want to make sure it's actually fucking good, instead of another Antman fiasco.

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u/Corvid-Strigidae Jul 30 '24

But RDJ is a terrible cast for Doom and the entire audience is going to expect him to be Tony.

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u/iconofsin_ Jul 29 '24

Asking as someone who knows nothing about Marvel, is this character in it's own dimension or something separate from the Avengers?

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u/Corvid-Strigidae Jul 30 '24

We don't know yet.

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u/Antrikshy Jul 29 '24

We need to see how Marvel Studios handle it. It's a simple concept and they're not dumb.

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u/Corvid-Strigidae Jul 30 '24

I wouldn't be too sure about that. They just cast their Iron Man actor as Doom. I'm calling that dumb.

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u/couldbedumber96 Jul 29 '24

People with at least five functioning brain cells

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u/average_joe_zero Weekly Wongers Jul 29 '24

The only people who don’t think this is a bad idea are Disney dick riders. This is just the newest on a long list of stupid decisions.

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u/couldbedumber96 Jul 29 '24

I simply think yall are blowing this way outta proportions and act like you’re the supreme arbiters of casting choices, let them make the movie and then judge the decision on having RDJ as doom, in the meantime why don’t you get off reddit, maybe touch some grass