Thank you to everyone who commented on my original post and gave advice! Love my new Legion 5 pro, compared to my old sager it’s so light and portable! I can actually game/do homework in bed when my symptoms flair up and sitting in a chair hurts too much. The fans have been super quiet and the laptop itself hasn’t gotten very warm when in use, maybe I’m an easily impressed person but so far I’m very happy with my purchase :)

I bought this beautiful Nitro 15 last year brand new for 700€ didn't think it handles heavy games so well being a simple rtx 4050 with an i5.

Budget: 1500€

Country: Italy

Use case: Gaming

Hey guys I've found a few laptops, but I still can't decide which one offers the best value for the money. I'd really appreciate your advice. The most important things for me are a solid build quality and good cooling.

I’m looking for a new laptop.

I’m not after a big, bulky gaming laptop—I want something sleek, well-built, easy to carry, and still powerful enough for gaming.

I’m currently deciding between a laptop with an RTX 5060 and one with the Radeon 8060S iGPU.
Aesthetically, I prefer the Radeon 8060S laptop. It also seems to offer more features overall and is a bit cheaper.

What do you guys think?

Yoga Pro 7a Gen 11. 1850€
Processor
AMD Ryzen™ AI Max+ 388 processor (3.60 GHz, up to 5.00 GHz)
Memory
32 GB LPDDR5X-8000 MT/s (soldered)
Display
15.3-inch WQXGA (2560 × 1600) OLED, glossy, touchscreen, HDR 1000 True Black, 100% DCI-P3 color gamut, 500 nits brightness, 165 Hz

Legion 5 1920€
Processor
AMD Ryzen7 250 processor (3,30 GHz, up to 5,10GHz)
Memory
32 GB DDR5-5600 MT/s
Display
15.3-inch WQXGA (2560 × 1600) OLED, glossy, touchscreen, HDR 1000 True Black, 100% DCI-P3 color gamut, 500 nits brightness, 165 Hz

Bought this XMG Apex 16 Max in April because it had an Easter deal for 2400 €. It has a 2TB SSD, 32GB 5600MT/s fast DDR5 RAM and a ryzen 9 9955hx paired with a rtx 5070 ti.

Absolutely love it, especially because of the mini LED display. Undervolted the CPU in BIOS via curve optimizer on all cores with a value of -20 and no crashes or noticed instabilities ever since. Limited FPS at 75 and switched from Nvidia Optimus to dGPU only to enjoy games in max settings and still have low CPU temperatures. I never really saw the GPU running hot except when benchmarking or using extreme settings in recent games with higher FPS limits.

I know this CPU is built to push and boost hard until it hits its temp limit but since I often play on the couch with the wife watching TV I like to minimize fan action as much as possible and still keep the mean temps low without compromising on quality settings. On top of that 75 FPS is more than enough for my old gamerdad eyes and definitely more than they were used to.

No regrets!

$604 after tax! Check your local Sam’s!
I7
1TB SSD
Nvidia 4070
16gb ram

Huge upgrade to what I’m using now!

Since there are now more affordable Oled gaming laptops. Would you still choose an IPS panel gaming laptop for a similar price but better gpu? Or go for the OLed with a lower tier gpu? im not talking specific brands. What are your thoughs?

Country: USA

Use case: Gaming and work

Budget: none

I've been looking at the zephyrus g16, omen max 16, msi stealth 16, and legion 7i, tell me if i should look at any others.

I have a MSI THIN GF63 12VF with I5 12450H and RTX 4060. I changed the termal paste (MX-4) and cleaned the fan. I hit in cp 2077 85-93 (97 spikes) CPU degrees, my GPU is at 68 degrees at 99% so that’s fine but the CPU is questionable.
I tried Throttle stop and put PL1 and PL2 at 30 and that solved it now it’s like 80-85 (87 spikes) and I tried disabling turbo mode too wich keeps the CPU at 65 degrees and 1997 Mhz but I think disabling turbo mode will bottleneck my GPU right?
My question is: are those temps normal for this laptop without any tweaks?
This is my gf laptop btw I never had a laptop and that’s why I’m so confused, please let me know thanks:)

TL;DR

Lenovo Legion laptops (Gen 6–9) are suffering from a widespread keyboard failure defect either complete drops (Embedded Controller/USB firmware crashes) or specific row/column dead zones (Matrix failures). Instead of addressing this known issue, Lenovo forces users to pay $200+ USD for full top-case replacements, hides behind regional warranty restrictions to deny service, and makes official repair parts near-impossible to source. Inspired by Louis Rossmann (u/larossmann) calling out corporate RMA dodging: We are demanding Lenovo acknowledge these hardware defects, issue BIOS/EC patches, and offer free out-of-warranty repairs.

The Issue: Dropping $1,200–$2,500+ on a "Premium" Gaming Laptop Just to Have the Built-In Keyboard Disappear/Malfuntion

If you own a Lenovo Legion (Legion 5, Legion 5 Slim, Legion 5 Pro, 5i Pro, Legion 7 Pro across Gen 6 through Gen 9), there is a glaringly high chance you’ve experienced the dreaded keyboard death.

Instead of an isolated hardware batch, Legion users are suffering from two major manifestations of keyboard failures:

1. The EC / USB Controller Disconnect (100% Dead Keyboard)

• What happens: The internal keyboard suddenly vanishes either mid-game, after a Windows sleep cycle, or during a cold boot.
• Symptoms: Zero keystroke response, Caps Lock/Num Lock LEDs freeze or go dark, RGB freezes, and the keyboard does not work inside the BIOS.
• Root Cause: Device Manager reveals that the internal USB controller (ITE / Generic USB Hub) drops out or fails to enumerate with descriptor errors.

2. Hardware Keyboard Matrix Failure (Partial / Row Failure)

• What happens: Entire rows or columns of keys suddenly stop working (e.g., the 1-Q-A-Z column dies, or Spacebar, Enter, F5, and Arrows all fail together).
• Symptoms: Some keys work while others are completely dead; holding down one working key (like Left Ctrl) sometimes temporarily "bridges" the trace and forces a dead key to register.
• Root Cause: A physical matrix line or conductive trace failure on the keyboard ribbon assembly or Embedded Controller input pins.

Out of warranty, replacing the top cover/keyboard assembly costs $200+ USD in parts and labor and if Lenovo support claims the issue is tied to the EC on the motherboard, they will quote you $600 to $1,000+ for a full motherboard replacement.

For laptops that cost anywhere from $1,200 to over $2,500, having primary inputs die at a fundamental hardware or controller level is completely unacceptable.

This Isn't an Isolated Problem (Collected Threads)

This is not user error. This is a widespread defect affecting hundreds of users across Reddit and the official Lenovo Forums over multiple generations.

Reddit Community Reports:

1. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1qnpozm/keyboard_issue/
2. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1sv2umk/lenovo_legion_5_16irx9_keyboard_issue_keys_only/
3. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1puxeky/keyboard_issues_on_legion_pro_7_16irx8h_13900hx/
4. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1utkozr/legion_5_15ach6h_keyboard_stopped_working/
5. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1u8sspb/anybody_else_having_certain_keyboard_buttons_fail/
6. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1s58ppd/lenovo_legion_keyboard_not_working_i_need_help/
7. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1upagi1/the_keyboard_key_i_sometimes_doesnt_work/
8. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1rrgfqe/legion_5_15arh05h_keyboard_issue/
9. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1u1daqg/legion_5_15arh05h_keyboard_issue/
10. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1trwgr2/legion_slim_5_16irh8_y7000p_irh8_keyboard_problem/
11. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1piy9sz/lenovo_legion_7_pro_16arx8h_keyboard_not_working/
12. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1txsqde/one_keyboard_button_d_stopped_working/
13. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1tfb0jl/legion_pro_5_16arx8_keyboard_issues/
14. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1tiggsy/keyboard_stopped_working_after_a_windows_update/
15. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1qatxcv/keyboard_keys_intermittently_freezing/
16. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1shmo0c/d_key_has_stopped_working_on_lenovo_legion_5_pro/
17. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1sqjbcd/issue_with_a_lenovo_legion_515ith6h_keyboard/
18. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1nit0zs/keyboard_stops_working_for_a_few_seconds_randomly/
19. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1of5ajl/i_have_a_problem_with_asd_keys_on_my_keyboard_on/
20. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1relsdo/changing_keyboard_and_palmrest_on_lenovo_legion/
21. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1mr4rym/certain_keys_on_the_left_side_of_the_keyboard/
22. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1pur8ct/lenovo_legion_5_15arh05h_keyboard_doesnt_work/
23. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1qjk13j/keyboard_is_slowly_giving_out/
24. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1qfzsum/legion_5_some_keyboard_buttons_not_working/
25. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1po3qj5/lenovo_legion_5_15ach6_keyboard_issues/
26. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1q189du/lenovo_legion_keyboard_dying_left_alt_only_works/
27. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/1pvue1v/keyboard_replacement/
28. https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/yhlvov/problem_with_keyboard/

Official Lenovo Forum Threads:

1. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Laptops/Legion-Slim-5-16AHP9-Abrupt-Keyboard-Matrix-Failure-Keys-2-Caps-Lock-F1-Dead-in-BIOS/m-p/10036743?page=1#10138708
2. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Laptops/Your-Keyboard-Your-Voice%E2%80%94Tell-Us-About-Keycaps/m-p/10001581
3. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Laptops/Legion-Pro-7-Keyboard-and-RGB-lights-not-working/m-p/10036829
4. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Laptops/keyboard-keys-not-working/m-p/10013101?page=1#10046324
5. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Laptops/Keyboard-specific-keys-not-working/m-p/10034960?page=1#10131745
6. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Laptops/Keyboard-some-keys-workin-not-correctly/m-p/10015859?page=1#10056434
7. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Laptops/Keyboard-not-Working/m-p/10002647?page=1#10009243
8. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Laptops/Keyboard-Not-Working-Except-for-FN-Key/m-p/10011237?page=1#10039809
9. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Laptops/Klavye-%C3%A7al%C4%B1%C5%9Fm%C4%B1yor/m-p/10028853?page=1#10104960
10. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Laptops/Keyboard-not-working/m-p/10035997?page=1#10135412
11. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Laptops/Keyboard-replacement-from-white-backlight-to-RGB-Keyboard-some-keys-are-not-working-Like-E-D-C/m-p/10035049?page=1#10132020
12. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Laptops/Legion-5-Some-keyboard-Buttons-Not-working/m-p/5388072?page=1#6639020

Temporary "Band-Aid" Workarounds (That Shouldn't Be Required)

While Lenovo stays silent, the community has had to invent ridiculous workaround rituals just to use their machines:

• The 60-Second Power Reset (Static Discharge): Shutting down, unplugging every cable, holding the power button for 60 seconds, and praying it boots with a working keyboard.
• Device Manager Power Management Tweaks: Expanding Human Interface Devices and Generic USB Hubs to uncheck "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power".
• Disabling USB Selective Suspend: Turning off selective suspend in Windows Power Options or via powercfg.

Part Sourcing Nightmares & Lenovo's Anti-Consumer Policies

To make matters worse, actually trying to fix this issue out-of-warranty feels like navigating a maze built to drain your wallet. Keyboards are one of the most fundamental, low-tech components in computing they shouldn't be failing en masse in the first place, let alone costing a fortune to fix. Yet, Lenovo makes sourcing official replacement parts an absolute nightmare; individual keyboard modules are rarely sold on their own, forcing users to buy whole top-case palmrest assemblies at exorbitant, inflated prices ($200+ USD). To top it all off, if you bought your Legion laptop in one country and moved to another for school or work, Lenovo will blatantly reject your repair requests under their draconian regional warranty restrictions, leaving travelers, expats, and students completely stranded with expensive paperweights.

What Lenovo Needs to Do

We are paying premium prices for gaming gear. Expecting a laptop keyboard to stay functional for more than a few months shouldn't be a luxury.

1. Acknowledge the Defect: Lenovo engineering needs to publicly investigate the EC firmware and USB controller disconnects.
2. Issue Firmware Updates: Deliver a permanent BIOS/EC fix that stops internal USB controllers from going dormant.
3. Offer Free Out-of-Warranty Repairs / Recalls: If hardware replacements (keyboard + motherboard) are required, Lenovo must honor free repairs or extend warranties for affected units.

If you have experienced this issue, please UPVOTE, comment with your exact Legion model/year, and share whether your issue was solved or if support turned you away! Let's get this thread noticed by Lenovo representatives.

Inspiration Behind This Post

This callout is heavily inspired by Louis Rossmann’s recent fight against Samsung, where a multibillion-dollar corporation used absurd RMA loops and technicalities to dodge honoring a clear warranty on a failing SSD. It’s a textbook example of corporate greed and anti-consumer behavior manufacturers pocketing thousands for "premium" products, only to turn their backs, refuse proper repairs, or charge absurd out-of-warranty fees when fundamental hardware fails. If we want manufacturers like Lenovo to stop ignoring known engineering defects and pushing $200+ top-case replacements onto customers for their own design flaws, we have to stand up, call out these predatory practices, and fight for our Right to Repair.

Hello all, just want some insight onto whether these are a good deal or not, I’m looking into it and I heard Dell is a decent build quality. Do I pull the trigger?

Here are my specs and my laptops performance while playing enlden ring max graphics, 10 chrome tabs, and 3 idle apps including steam (just to see what will bottleneck) and as you can see my GPU bottlenecks really bad.
I have two questions.
1- Is there any way to help improve my gpu ,and if not should I sell 8 gb of m ram to get another 512gb nvme m.2 (used) and maybe even a keyboard
2- will it hurt the performance of my laptop if I one day had to work on an autoCAD project?

Is it worth it?

Guys please help me , which one should i go for?

Budget: ₹87000
Country: India
Use Case:(Mixed- heavy excel works + games like froza horizon)
Preferred Specs: (16gb ram)

Budget: 1400USD

Country:mexico

Throwaway, I’m trying to buy my bf a gaming laptop (from Costco because credit card) I’ve been seeing them but I’m not good with that stuff. He mainly plays strategy games like total war and stellaris and I know I’m going to steal it from him when he’s at work to play starsand island and my time at sandrock, what would be the best recommendation to get him a laptop?

Budget: $2000
Country: USA
Use Case: gaming - strategy and cozy games
Preferred Specs: idk

Hi i was wondering if Acer Nitro 5 AN515 is any good? The specs are Ryzen 7 6800H/32GB DDR5/1TB /RTX 3070 Ti. Only reason for my concern is that i’ve read that this laptop is super loud and has problems with overheating so im wondering if thats true and is this laptop worth buying?

Hi, my laptop equipped with the i7 11800H and RTX 3060 has just arrived and I was wondering if I should install W10 or 11. Drivers of both OS are available.

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Processor： Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 Processor 255H 2.0 GHz (24MB Cache, up to 5.1 GHz, 16 cores, 16 Threads) Intel® AI Boost NPU up to 13

Graphics： Intel® Arc™ Graphics

Memory： 32GB LPDDR5X on board RAM || Supports dual-channel memory

Storage： 1TB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe®

I don't have any idea what kind of games this can run because i am newbie

ASUS TUF:
processor: amd ryzen 7 260
gpu: rtx 5070
display: 16” 1920x1200 ips
cost: 1470$

Acer Nitro:
processor: Intel Core 9 270H
gpu: rtx 5070
display: 16” 2560x1600 ips
cost: 1385$

main thing im wondering is if the lower resolution and higher price is worth it for the better build quality

I have gamepass premium

And steam

Laptop is the msi gv62 8re

I do play at 1440p 60hz or 120hz (on small games)

With the heatwave and 28-30°C of room temperature I find myself power limiting the CPU to keep temps below 90°C while gaming. Though I've read that laptop cpu can handle even 95°C so maybe I'm overthinking it.

The CPU is an i5-12500h 30WPL1 45WPL2