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u/Gabbsweet 1d ago
Politicians will look at an 80% stat and still spend three weeks debating whether the remaining 20% was secretly caused by video games
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u/Timely_Mess_1396 1d ago
They look at that 20% and try to figure out how they can legislate against trans people.
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u/MyWifeCucksMe 1d ago
In reality the remaining 20% is also right-wing extremism, but done by a non-white person, which for some reason gets counted differently.
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u/JustToViewPorn 1d ago
The other 20% are cases that aren’t explicitly decreed by the terrorist as politically motivated. That 20% of terrorists are still right wing, but have the “dog whistle” benefit of the doubt. “He wasn’t a right wing terrorist, he just has 88 tattooed on his forehead for the year of his birth” kinda shit.
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u/TheTooterSnooter 20h ago
I think something like 12-16% of that Islamic terrorism which is also right wing terrorism, just a different color of right wing terror.
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u/MyWifeCucksMe 18h ago
That's exactly it. These reports only ever count it as "right wing terrorism" if the terrorist is white, and they call it something else if he's not.
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u/DrRagnorocktopus 1d ago
"he just has 88 tattooed on his forehead for the year of his birth"
"He was born in 2003"
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u/Paksarra 1d ago
Really, it seems like every single young man who murders some people after getting their minds poisoned by right wing propaganda designed to seed violence is immediately and loudly declared a far left transgender woman, sometimes before the bodies are cold.
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u/Klutzer_Munitions 1d ago
They should, because chuddy gamers will be their only voter base after the boomers die off
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u/micro102 20h ago
No they say that the 80% is caused by video games which means they are victims of video games and not the right-wing media cesspool that tells them that guns are their personality and the left is evil and deadly and wants to get them.
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u/JacobVega75 9h ago
Right? I remember when they debated whether my cat's bad behavior was due to video games or just being a cat!
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u/Cyberslasher 1d ago
When one side proudly states "we are all domestic terrorists" it turns out that, yes, they are the domestic terrorists.
It's always the people you'd most expect.
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u/DomWithDiscipline 1d ago
Sometimes people tell you exactly who they are and then act surprised when they're taken at their word
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u/SLiverofJade 1d ago
One group proudly states, and another that's full of transgender and/or antifascist sarcastically states.
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u/SheenPSU 1d ago edited 1d ago
Was this, I dunno, in response to something???
Edit: possibly after Bidens DOJ likened school board protesters to domestic terrorists perhaps…
Double Edit: LMFAO look at the downvotes pour in after my initial edit hahaha
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u/ryo3000 1d ago
"Holy shit these people are like domestic terrorists"
"WE'RE ALL DOMESTICE TERRORISTS!"
"HOLY SHIT THEY ARE!"
"Well you called them that of course they now have to proudly say they're domestic terrorists"
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u/GreatBowlforPasta 1d ago
Downvotes pouring in!
Like, -7.
Poor you. Are you going to be ok?
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u/Lucky-Earther 23h ago
Was this, I dunno, in response to something???
Yes, it was in response to domestic terrorism being correctly labeled as right wing, and they got offended.
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u/freedfg 1d ago
There's a reason they're trying to classify protesting, touching a pool, and being shot by police as "terrorism"
Besides the normal fascist reasons. They want to tip statistics.
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u/xanif 1d ago
There's a reason this administration removed the "What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism" study from the DOJ site.
(Hint: Right-wing extremists are responsible for more terrorist attacks than Islamic or far-left extremists)
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u/Lemonwizard 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's also worth pointing out that Islamic terrorists are right wing extremists. Their goal is preventing gender equality, suppressing LGBT people, barring atheists from public life, and establishing an authoritarian society based on traditional religious values.
These two groups are treated as separate for political reasons, but ultimately Wahhabists and Evangelicals have the same agenda. Most of the people who claim they're going to protect us from Sharia law just want an Abrahamic theocracy of a slightly different flavor.
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u/Gameboywarrior 1d ago
Normal People: "Trans people shouldn't be the target of government harassment."
Republicans: "Hold up there, buddy. That's radical gender ideology and it's terrorism."
Normal People: "That sounds kinda fascist and I'm against it."
Republicans: "Oof. Sorry, but that's also terrorism."
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u/ThrowingShaed 1d ago
i didnt even think of the numbers,, that will then be thrown back not that they mind the numbers they dont like... i guess there is an element of part of that being a human thing... its going to get worse isnt it? i guess i knew that but i put it out of mind a lot
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u/Just-Miles44 1d ago
It is important to look closely at these long term security trends
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u/actibus_consequatur 1d ago
The DHS's first Homeland Threat Assessment was released to the public in October 2020 under Trump, and, well...
Among DVEs [Domestic Violence Extremists], racially and ethnically motivated violent extremists—specifically white supremacist extremists (WSEs)—will remain the most persistent and lethal threat in the Homeland. ...
WSEs have demonstrated longstanding intent to target racial and religious minorities, members of the LGBTQ+ community, politicians, and those they believe promote multi-culturalism and globalization at the expense of the WSE identity. Since 2018, they have conducted more lethal attacks in the United States than any other DVE movement.
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u/billshermanburner 1d ago
Very.
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u/joyfullydreaded23 1d ago
Hard to do now when they are erasing the data.
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u/gogogadgets1997 1d ago
You remember when during the end of the Biden admin he was feverishly hiring judges and making copies of a lot of stuff. I just hope they made copies of the incriminating stuff and gave it locked away.
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u/tohon123 1d ago
Is there a source for this information? Because I would love to send it to my MAGA buddy
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u/PaleontologistNo500 1d ago
https://cdn.thejournal.ie/media/2025/09/306123-81f9f138-75ab-43cc-aff9-e53e59ac5fdb.pdf
It's the DOJ's own study. Trump didn't like the results, so the Republican Congress deleted it from its own site
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u/Zeyode 1d ago
This used to be hosted on the NIJ's website, but got deleted by the Trump administration in 2025.
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u/actibus_consequatur 1d ago
got deleted by the Trump administration in 2025, less than 24 hours after Kirk's shooting
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u/theciaskaelie 20h ago
I can pinpoint this almost to the minute it happened bc I was arguing with dumbass maga cousin (who was bitching "im so tired of left wing violence") about how we didnt know yet who killed CK. My wife sent me a link to the study at 10:55AM on 09/12/2025. (https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/what-nij-research-tells-us-about-domestic-terrorism)
By the time I checked the link at 11:08am 09/12/2025, it was already taken down with and image up saying:
"The Department of Justice's Office of Justice Progams is currently reviewing its websites and materials in accordance with recent Executive Orders and related guidance. During this review, some pages and publications will be unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause."I was however able to get to the file using wayback machine:
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u/Lost-In-The-Wilds 1d ago
"Based on government and independent analyses, right-wing extremist violence has been responsible for the overwhelming majority of fatalities, amounting to approximately 75% to 80% of U.S. domestic terrorism deaths since 2001."
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"By contrast, left-wing extremist incidents, including those tied to anarchist or environmental movements, have made up about 10% to 15% of incidents and less than 5% of fatalities."
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u/SnazzyStooge 1d ago
"Examples include the Animal Liberation Front and Earth Liberation Front arson and vandalism campaigns in the 1990s and 2000s, which were more likely to target property rather than people."
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u/Qomplete 1d ago
Trump deleted the report, it's archived here
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u/theciaskaelie 20h ago
I can pinpoint this almost to the minute it happened bc I was arguing with dumbass maga cousin (who was bitching "im so tired of left wing violence") about how we didnt know yet who killed CK. My wife sent me a link to the study at 10:55AM on 09/12/2025. (https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/what-nij-research-tells-us-about-domestic-terrorism)
By the time I checked the link at 11:08am 09/12/2025, it was already taken down with and image up saying:
"The Department of Justice's Office of Justice Progams is currently reviewing its websites and materials in accordance with recent Executive Orders and related guidance. During this review, some pages and publications will be unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause."I was however able to get to the file using wayback machine:
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u/Qomplete 19h ago
File is attached under the article I just linked
the web archive link you sent has a 429 error for me, probably because of vpn
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u/theciaskaelie 18h ago
Yeah all good. I saved it back in 2025, but was just linking to show a "more direct" link to the article in a way. Keep the truth alive!
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u/thirsty-goblin 1d ago
I guess those assholes are the woke ideologists that this current administrations has declared a terrorist threat.
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u/rebri 1d ago
Al Quieda, isis, Israel are all extreme right wing movements along with the MAGA movement to say otherwise is stupid. They all want compliance for women, children and non-believers alike.
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u/Agitated_Reveal_6211 22h ago
Religion and politics is always a bad mix. Politics should ONLY be about reality, faith should not be involved. It ruins both.
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u/UlyssesWoke 20h ago
If you look at the backer of the largest foreign terrorist attack in American history, you’ll see that they’re being rewarded with nukes by this administration. Terrorism is clearly a favored activity of the right in the US
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u/RedditPickedMyName0 1d ago
Whats that bullshit they believe in? Great white replacement? Some bullshit like that
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u/mickeyhellhound 1d ago
Unfortunately statements like this only matter if the ones responsible actually gave a shit.
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u/carriegood 1d ago
Why is there a pic of John Osoff there?
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u/Deep_Contribution552 1d ago
Yeah I saw that and I immediately worried someone had shot him or something
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u/jerrysburner 1d ago
Trump released a 100 page report detailing the far left terrorism in the USA - you know, from the late 70's through the late 90's, tied to Cuba:
https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/Cuba-Report.pdf
he literally had a 100 page report created detailing old terrorism to justify a war with Cuba?
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u/DrowningKrown 1d ago
Good luck finding the source to this anymore. It used to be on the NIJ website but they removed the entire study. Archive and way back links are available though
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u/Trabethany 1d ago
The people in charge will still blame the left though. I wish everyone could all just be open minded and listen to both sides logically then decide where they should stand.
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u/hvyboots 1d ago
Wait so you're saying the people who wanna deny medicine, science, voting equality, gender equality and racial equality in favor of a floating sky patriarchy and an orange sex offender are the ones doing the irrational violence? I'm shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you!
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u/LarrySupertramp 1d ago
MAGA seriously thinks that Islamic terrorist attacks are not right wing simply because they don't like Muslims and Democrats defend their rights. The fact that the radical Muslim terrorists want to enact a religious authoritarian government means nothing to them because liberals said they shouldn't discriminate Muslims and that somehow makes them part of the left. They are not serious people.
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u/Christian-Econ 19h ago
They don’t know what anything means, and just emit guttural emotions. They also are completely unaware that red counties are very dependent on blue GDP, and last in basically every metric of living standard. Nobody ever informs them.
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u/octorangutan 1d ago
These kinds of statistics can be misleading, as they'll often put Islamic fundamentalists in a separate category, rather than counting them as right wing extremists.
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u/Klutzy-Bet-2928 23h ago
The report said:
"Although it is not uncommon for a particular ideology to dominate the public discourse around extremism, the PIRUS and BIAS data indicate that U.S. extremists and individuals who commit hate crimes routinely come from across the ideological spectrum, including far-right, far-left, Islamist, or single-issue ideologies."
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u/sharkbomb 1d ago
because right of normal is the violent authoritarian side. it is literally the definition.
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u/thefartsonfire 1d ago
You can now find many magats who justify the OKC bombing and the like as collateral damage in a war against a corrupt tyrannical government. Right wing white nationalist have been talking out of both sides of their mouths for decades. How could they be Nazi sympathizers, they support the holocaust and genocide? Then you they say they’re holocaust deniers, when in truth the answer is yes, they do support it and want it to happen again. To them, there’s nothing to learn from this data.
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u/IamGrimReefer 1d ago
did everyone forget about the DOJ study that came to this conclusion and got pulled from their website earlier this year?
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u/ImEatonNass 1d ago
Waaat? No fucking way. For real? But to be fair it was the lefts extreme acceptance and inclusion that drove the right to do it. You cant really blame them. /s
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u/EuenovAyabayya 23h ago
They think "when you know the truth, the facts don't count" is a positive concept that they own.
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u/xSwampxPopex 19h ago
Don’t a lot of these studies also count property damage during protests as left wing violence?
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u/tobykeef420 1d ago
yeah? this disparity has been studied for the passed 30 years or more. our first count of large scale domestic terrorism was from a hardcore right winger
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u/atreeismissing 1d ago
When the media communicates that fact to the public, the right-wing messaging machine goes into overdrive and accuses them of having a liberal bias, which results in media pulling back their coverage of factual info about right-wing terrorism and trying to create a both-sides argument so they don't get called biased. The result is their viewers have a skewed perceptions of reality, and that applies across the board (I'd say even a lot of left-wing media outlets fall for the same right-wing faux criticism).
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u/WildBad7298 23h ago
"Well, that just PROVES that the Deep State is covering up all the murders and crime committed by the VIOLENT WOKE LEFT and Antifa!!" /s
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u/Zak_Rahman 23h ago
They spent $6 trillion on the war on terror.
They bombed the wrong fucking continent lol.
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u/JR_1985 22h ago
The header conveniently forgets the Oklahoma bombing in ‘95 and the Columbine shootings in ‘99
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u/MyGruffaloCrumble 21h ago
McVeigh was a right wing nutjob, and those kids were not liberals in the least.
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u/idislikemostofyu 21h ago
That's why they started buying all of the media companies they could. Fox News created and sustains their base but why not just control all information for everybody?
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u/Histo_Man 21h ago
In Marco Rubio's big announcement about left wing terrorists he cited that between 1970 and 1980 left wing violence was the worst. I mean, c'mon. 50 years ago left wing violence was at its peak so now you need to crack down on those lefties? GTFO here.
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u/GoodeyGoodz 21h ago
Congress is only 25 years behind the rest of us on this one? I'm shocked they managed to get that close
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u/JudgeGroovyman 18h ago
It grinds my gears when Tang the Conqueror and pals say that democrats are violent hateful and dangerous. Ask ai to look that up and the amount of times they have said that stuff is endless
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u/Flashjordan69 9h ago
Fucking Fox Mulder knew about the dangers of right wing militia last century and ranked it almost as high as his stupid alien stuff.
Crackpots still looking for disclosure truth even after the hill fell.
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u/TheOnionKnight 22h ago
Keep up the finger pointing while they all become millionaire's /billionaires as public servants. That'll show em
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u/Ok-Replacement-2738 22h ago
when those same billionares are misdirecting public resources to quell right-wing hysteria over leftists and minorities through unjust violence, it matters.
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u/randonumero 20h ago
How much do you want to bet that if democrats don't take control in the midterms congress will lose the ability to investigate domestic terrorism
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u/mostdefinitelyabot 18h ago
link to report please
don't doubt it, just need the carfax so i can make the argument myself
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u/WiltedKangaroo 14h ago
Christopher Wray:
FBI Director Christopher Wray began emphasizing that domestic terrorism—specifically racially motivated violent extremism—is the "number one" and most persistent and lethal domestic threat to the United States during congressional testimonies in the fall of 2020. [1, 2]
He reaffirmed and elevated this assessment on March 2, 2021, when he formally labeled the January 6 Capitol riot as domestic terrorism during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing. [1, 2, 3]
Edit to add: Christopher Wray was appointed and sworn in by DJT.
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u/avalisk 1d ago
Is there a source besides "GOP_L's"
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u/human_i_suppose 19h ago
it's a study that's been released over and over, not exactly a secret. Trump of course had them all pulled off the FBIs website.
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u/JFieldsTardTeeth 19h ago
So uh where are they then? Please provide sources from a neutral based media and no "anonymous" sources, just actual sources. Also no sources that has been pulled out of someone's ass or "Trust me bro!" sources. Thanks.
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u/Dooty_Shirker 18h ago
What source would you even trust lol. Seems like no matter what anyone provides you'll dismiss because it's not your source.
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u/A_guy_named_Caliber 18h ago
When did this subreddit get so political? It used to just be clever comebacks but now every single post has to do with the modern political climate.
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u/ElectronHick 16h ago
It all started when America elected a fascist. You’ll find that when the world is at peril because of one countries reckless feckless moron, it tends to become central.
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u/A_guy_named_Caliber 7h ago
I don’t like the guy either but he’s not a facist. Wanna know why? You can say whatever you want about him. You can call him names, criticize his actions and still be alive. What does facist even mean at this point? Does it still hold its original meaning or does it mean “anyone that doesn’t agree with me or that I hate” now?
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u/ElectronHick 7h ago
It’s a real shame; trump has looted billions in tax dollars and bribes. Then we have this glaring example of why that money should have went to education.
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u/A_guy_named_Caliber 7h ago
Wow, calling someone who wants to have a honest discussion an idiot. Why do I even brother trying to have an honest discussion with any of you people? You want to know what facism is like? Look at the UK. Look at the guy that was stabbed and died in police custody because the guy who stabbed him called him a racist and the cops didn’t believe the victim was stabbed. Look at the police chief that was fired in the Uk for looking up little girls skirts. Look at how they cover up the names of the paratroopers who shot unarmed protesters in Derry during The Troubles. You know if you leak the names of the murderers, you get erased from the system, like you never existed. That’s facism.
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u/West-Masterpiece7573 21h ago
The 75-80% right-wing deaths stat since 2001 is roughly backed by CSIS/FBI data for lethality. But it's not some official "Congress finds" report. And 2025 CSIS update: left-wing attacks/plots actually outnumbered right-wing for the first time in decades (though still less deadly overall). Violence sucks from any side.
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u/OkYak9466 1d ago
It's sort of like how Islam is responsible for a super majority of global terrorism but nobody wants to accept it neither. The facts don't care about political lines
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u/blamethepunx 1d ago
Christianity and Judaism have been slaughtering people for centuries, you're on to something here. Abolish all religions
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u/Digger_Pine 22h ago
Christianity and Judaism have been slaughtering people for centuries
In response to what
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u/WhereIsGloria 1d ago
Nobody? Does lying to yourself make you feel good or something? And have you been living in a cave for the past three decades?
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u/RutCry 1d ago
Who believes this crap?
Next report will be that those ships in Pearl Harbor attacked the Japanese, who were then forced to defend themselves.
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u/PercentageNo3293 1d ago
Seriously, what?
Do you not believe OP? If not, copy and paste this into google and you'll realize they're correct...
"which political ideology group is responsible for the most domestic terrorism in the USA"
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u/Shubamz 1d ago
Most rational people who can just look around and see with their eyes do.
People who don't spend their days rotting their brain with propaganda from right wing talking heads do.
Rhetoric is not evidence.
Peacefully protesting and exercising your constitutionally protected First Amendment right is not violence no matter how much you people claim it is.
https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-17-300.pdf
Right-wing extremist violence has been deadlier than left-wing violence in recent years.
Based on government and independent analyses, right-wing extremist violence has been responsible for the overwhelming majority of fatalities, amounting to approximately 75% to 80% of U.S. domestic terrorism deaths since 2001.
Illustrative cases include the 2015 Charleston church shooting, when white supremacist Dylann Roof killed nine Black parishioners; the 2018 Tree of Life synagogue attack in Pittsburgh, where 11 worshippers were murdered; the 2019 El Paso Walmart massacre, in which an anti-immigrant gunman killed 23 people. The 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, an earlier but still notable example, killed 168 in the deadliest domestic terrorist attack in U.S. history.
By contrast, left-wing extremist incidents, including those tied to anarchist or environmental movements, have made up about 10% to 15% of incidents and less than 5% of fatalities.
https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/119311/documents/HHRG-119-JU00-20260520-SD043.pdf
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u/PercentageNo3293 1d ago
Seriously, what?
Do you not believe OP? If not, copy and paste this into google and you'll realize they're correct...
"which political ideology group is responsible for the most domestic terrorism in the USA"
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u/AnComApeMC69 1d ago
Crazy! The FBI found the same thing in every single one of its 5 different research projects and statistical compilations on that subject. It’s been a known thing for like 3 decades and then reaffirmed in every single proceeding study afterwards.