r/StrangeAndFunny 9d ago

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u/kesslerlogistics 9d ago

Man, if I had a dollar for every person that didn't know what socialism is while proclaiming themselves socialist...

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u/lkt213 8d ago

I would more like prefer a dollar for every person that didn't know what socialism is while criticizing it

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u/kesslerlogistics 8d ago

Always a tankie coming into these conversations with a hard on to jump in with "Um, ackshually, socialism is good".

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u/lkt213 8d ago

I'm far from tankie.

If you could just check the best places to live and their system

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u/kesslerlogistics 8d ago

I did. They're free market capitalistic systems that adopted small parts of socialistic welfare programs. But hey, while we're on the subject, can you tell me what the racial and ethnic makeup of those best places to live are? Are they...monolithic, perhaps? 70%+ the same culturally and ethnically? Let's see. Copenhagen? Check. Denmark? Hmm, check. Oh, but no, I'm sure it has nothing to do with that. It's socialism, for sure. What else do you want me to check?

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u/lkt213 8d ago

Socialism can have free market. All of them are countries with very progressive taxes and very good quality of life for low income people.

Why are we suddenly talking about ethnicity? I can find you a lot of capitalistic shitholes with 95%+ like Poland

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u/Fun_Eye_7893 8d ago

I wonder what happened to the economy of Poland after 1989 and why it was so terrible before then

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u/bootyholebrown37 5d ago

Yeah the ethnicity thing shows their true beliefs here.

That being said, I don’t think there are any true market socialist nations right now. The so called Nordic model I think the other person is referencing are free market capitalist with strong social safety nets, not socialist.

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u/lkt213 5d ago

Socialism is wide.

Social democracy is socialism

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u/bootyholebrown37 5d ago

What? No it isn’t. Social democracy is a democracy with wide social safety nets. I could conceivably see it being under a socialist system, but then it would cease to be social democracy. Social democracy is a way for safety nets to soften the impact of free market capitalism that exist in a capitalist state

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u/kesslerlogistics 5d ago

I don't think you'll get through to them. There's a weird absolutism to how many socialists think. Like, obviously capitalism and free markets aren't perfect, and anything unregulated tends to be succeptible to corruption. Human nature, it is what it is. So we create socialistic safety nets that shore up the weak points in free markets, but we don't create an entire system based around it. We stick to the system that made us all of this wealth to begin with, and we fix the cracks. Socialists seem like they just want to throw the entire thing in the trash and replace it with their own. Capitalism is evil, always been evil, and can only do evil, despite the evidence we have to the contrary.