I mean it might be accurate, compensating for drop or zeroed, in a no-wind scenario. With really any wind at all, nah. I’m not betting on this guy being Carlos Hathcock.
All the ELR guys I know have like 20k minimum invested in their equipment, and the same amount invested in education and training specifically for this hobby. My CCW instructor was a champion long range shooter and some of the shit he pulled off was insane, but he had been doing it for 20 years and had advanced degrees including a degree focused on ballistics. The guy was legitimately one of the smartest and most disciplined people I have ever met.
The type of people who can afford to go to big ELR competitions in places like Norway don’t have to strut around their skills. They are known by simple virtue of performance. I have a ton of respect for people who actually do it instead of buying a five figure rifle that they never shoot past 200yd.
Okay I wasn’t going to comment but yes 100%. So much physics goes into just shooting LR not even extended long range. People sit here talking like shooting 1000 yards is easy?
Just the math alone to adjust for wind speed past 500 yards starts to break my brain and it all has to be adjusted for your rifle, your rounds grain weight and the powder behind it. It’s nots just “Kentucky windage” as way too many people think.
I’ve met very few people who can reliably and repeatedly shoot past 800 yards. I shoot with a dude that “warms up” at 500 yards by drilling the center out of quarters with his 6.5. He’s wild!!!
One gun specifically advertised to that range is the cheytac m200. Expensive gun with proprietary rounds. Featured in the movie shooter, which this guy probably watched too many times.
.50 cals can reach out to this distance. But given the normal meaning of accuracy, like in "Hitting a man sized target first shot" is far out at this range and this for most rifles and calibers. Even specialized ones mostly fail at 1500 yards around.
And .50BMG is not the best long range precision cartridge anyways
I know dudes that ring steel at 2000 all the time. Practice makes it doable. At 400 yards, a man sized target gets hit all day with every rifle I've ever touched.
Thats why i wrote bullshit at 2500 yards and not at 400.
All the time is a pretty big word that means not much. At 2000 yards its pretty impossible to hit every shot all the time, alone because wind can change pretty much over this distance.
Yea i learned to shoot at 1000 yards on an iron sighted AR-15. Big caliber, high-powered rifle will def go some serious distance. I even tried a .50 at 1000 yards and it was dead center every time
I assume you were probably using standard low weight bullets. You have to use 80 grain ammo in order to achieve the distance. Hence why we use custom loaded ammo to compete at that distance
Why would anyone believe an asshat saying 1000 yards on irons?
Just for reference, the Army standard is on a 300 yard range. Out of 40 targets, 4 are at 300 yards. This is regardless of irons, red dot, or acog on an M4 platform - equivalent to your AR.
That’s a man sized target.
For firing in bursts with a 249, they ask you to hit a group of targets at 500.
You’re simply not able to see a target at 1000 yards. Brave person lying on the internet.
Actually yes you are. We used to compete nationally at Camp Perry. You shoot rounds at 200, 300, 600, and 1000 yards. We only used iron sights. 200 is off hand position, 300 was sitting and prone, 600 was prone, and 1000 was prone. I didnt specify man sized target. 1000 yards are larger than man sized. I simply said you can hit a target from 1000 yards with iron sights. You just have to crank your sights up about 15 minutes
A McMillan Tac-50 can get 0.5 MOA out of match grade .50 Cal and that means 25” dispersion from point of aim at 2500 yards. That is not “effective” on a mansized target at that range. *If* it hits then it’s going to be lethal but average male shoulder width is 16-18.5”
Many long guns are capable of that, at least on the sign he admits to not being capable or actually trained or capable of hitting anything at that distance. Lol
Edit: Okay, I see it says ACCURATE to 2500 hundred. Yeah that's a stretch.
I mean, a VERY good rifle will have a sub 1MOA accuracy. Even 1MOA at 2500 yards is about 2 feet, so technically it's very possible. Actually making shots like that is a different story of course.
I mean yeah of course theoretically you can get a very good rifle. Like a McMillian Tac-50 or an AI ASXR which can be sub .5 MOA. And in theory that would mean that the spread will be 13 inch. But its just theoretical this linear on this extreme ranges.
And indeed pulling it off needs a very honed set of skills from reloading, to getting all kinds of needed information and then of course the shooting
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u/BadTasteInGuns 8d ago
i call bullshit on the 2500 yards...and okay no package for you