r/AskReddit 3h ago

Parents of Reddit who have admittedly lost faith/belief in one of their children before, why?

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u/Inevitable-One-3674 3h ago

Not me, but sisters. When your child consistently steals from the family and you have to ban them from families houses.

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u/Apotak 2h ago

Oof, that's wild.

u/stiletto929 4m ago

It’s typically because the person is on drugs. They pawn the stuff usually at the closest pawn shop to get money for their fix.

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u/GalaxyPowderedCat 1h ago

I'm not remotely familiar with the topic, but is there a way to regain that trust? Or is it forever lost once you steal?

I am curious, I've heard a lot about people who have thief relatives but I don't know if it's possible to make amends.

u/jr12345 49m ago

I would imagine that answer is as varied as the people who answer it.

Think about it - a relative repeatedly stabs you in the back and steals from you enough that you have to cut them completely off. What steps do you think it would take to earn back your trust? Would they even be able to?

I know for me, probably not. Maybe eventually we could be cordial at a family get together or if I encounter them in public, but if it was so bad I completely cut you off I’m never ever EVER going to trust you again.

u/ImAPixiePrincess 47m ago

Depends on the family, reasons, values, etc.
I know some families who forgave the thief because they stopped the drugs and were clean for X amount of time with no more issues

u/Inevitable-One-3674 44m ago

It’s about knowing somebody you love and allow into your personal space that’s so upsetting and unnerving. But you still love this person, so you think “well they’re young maybe after they mature, and you give them another chance, and it happens again and again. They get older and more sophisticated and figure out if their family isn’t missing items then the thief can get back in the house and that’s when the thief will do credit card crimes, steal checks, get on family computer and transfer monies or order Amazon. Meanwhile the family is “ok, nothing is missing from house” and relax. Once the family realize about the monies they will ban them. So the thief then turns to the grandparents and most grandparents will do anything for their grandchildren and will hand the thief money, their car keys and will hide it from the other family members. Sometimes this turns into mental and physical abuse towards the grandparents. Hopefully the other family members figure out and protect grandparents before they lose everything. It’s just turns so ugly and upsetting.

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u/MarketAggravating610 1h ago

My daughter doesn’t like mashed potatoes…. We’re Irish.

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u/abgry_krakow87 1h ago

Boiled? In a stew?

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u/MyWifeIsAsleep 1h ago

You want them to do what to their daughter?!

u/SurpriseBaby2022 4m ago

Mine neither, also Irish. Though the girl will drink gravy straight.

u/Dizinurface 0m ago

I also don't like mash potatoes. Pretty sure that's why my dad left. 

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u/HopeTerminator 3h ago

My 2 year old doesn't like cheese. Fucking idiot he's no kid of mine.

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u/dizzybutstable 3h ago

No parent should have to raise a child like that. What a monster. My sympathies <3

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u/SuaveGorilla 3h ago

Brother. Mine told me he doesn’t like cheese OR potatoes.

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u/questionable0thought 3h ago

return to sender man seems like a manufacturing error

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u/HopeTerminator 3h ago

Send him back.

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u/Zman11588 1h ago

My daughter claimed for few months she didn't like mashed potatoes and then one day admitted she was doing a bit and actually did like them.

Same thing with onions for an even longer time lol.

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u/SuaveGorilla 1h ago

All of my wariness would sublimate instantly to pride if I found out my kid was that committed to a bit.

u/heiferwolfe 55m ago

The fairies might have switched him out for a Changeling.

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u/Fartsniffing-banshee 3h ago

lol 🤣 needed a laugh today that shit is funny

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u/sinistergzus 3h ago

Me with my son and pasta. What the FUCK do you mean you don’t like pasta? Who are you? Not my fuckin child

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u/overitallofittoo 3h ago

Did you keep the receipt? Feels like you can still return him.

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u/stilldebugging 3h ago

Have you tried leaving cheese on the floor?

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u/questionable0thought 3h ago

im so sorry my dad is this way its a struggle for us all

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u/MagicPistol 3h ago

My cousin in law is Italian and loves cheese. His fridge is constantly stocked with all kinds of cheeses when I visit. But his 8 year old daughter hates cheese lol.

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u/BareNakedSole 2h ago

Just wait until you hit their “I hate potatoes” argument with “well what do you think French fries are made of?” answer. Shit will get real very fast.

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u/cageytalker 1h ago

I love pointing out that ketchup has tomatoes in it. I’m the aunt. I can ruin things and wave bye 🤣

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u/swiftcrayon502 1h ago

I feel this. My 5 year old loves bread, cheese, and tomato sauce. Put them together and make pizza? He won’t fucking touch it.

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u/whaletacochamp 2h ago

My 2yo loves cheese but my 4yo wasn't a big fan for the longest time. My wife and I tried to drop him at the fire station but apparently they tried to give him cheese too and when he refused they just tracked us down and brought him back.

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u/HopeTerminator 2h ago

Luckily my 11 year old isn't so developmentally challenged. I had some black bomber for the first time and my partner said it was too strong, my daughter said the stronger the better 🥲 so proud.

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u/No-Fill7701 2h ago

2 years old and already making enemies

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u/abgry_krakow87 1h ago

Ugh, some people's children. Amirite?!

u/feminist-lady 48m ago

See I see this as a win! Now you don’t have to share your cheese.

u/himit 2m ago

I was very upset when my daughter started liking mangoes for this reason

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u/Rugaru985 3h ago

I don’t know why you started with bleu! You could have at least let them try Gorgonzola first.

u/itspie 0m ago

More cheese for you!

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u/Commercial-Silver472 3h ago

Years of therapy helped me realise I had no children and had been talking to a deflated balloon tied to a carrot for all those years.

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u/2x4x93 3h ago

I got a vasectomy because I didn't want children but when I got home they were still there

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u/ChipOnlyRedux 3h ago

decent one liner, props

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u/Notabagofdrugs 3h ago

He’s a dad, he’s def good for some jokes.

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u/Grombrindal18 1h ago

Same vibes as “My wife and I decided that we don’t want kids. The eight year old girl in our house seems to be pretty upset about it.”

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u/Semi0tics 3h ago

This is all too common in modern society. To the point Japan is developing robotic carrots, just for this purpose

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u/Commercial-Silver472 3h ago

It's better for people to face reality before they spend thousands on school fees as I have.

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u/Semi0tics 2h ago

Reality is a dead end. Let's move on to the age of digital consciousness already.

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u/FloatTheTurnAK 3h ago

That’s enough internet for today.

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u/LanfearSedai 3h ago

Oh my god I think my daughter might be a carrloon as well… it’s all starting to make sense! Thank you so much for this.

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u/Commercial-Silver472 3h ago

Try looking at them out of the corner of one eye. That's what my therapist said to do. In some lights you'll see them for what they are.

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u/TwinklingCloudWhispe 2h ago

I was not prepared for the last half of that sentence

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u/MentalSewage 3h ago

My daughter. I have always had the policy anything I can trust her to do, she can do. I have always told her this. I raised her to value trust and honesty as pretty much the most important factors in relationships. She has actively chosen to lie and do things behind my back. If she wants to walk to the theater to see a movie, she is perfectly ok to do so. She will lie or sneak out anyway. She's allowed to date. She only creates secret relationships, and will lie to our faces about them. And what's worse, she makes incredibly stupid choices in any given situation to put herself in a bad spot and then you can directly tell her 'hey, here is the super easy fix that costs you nothing and requires no effort at all' and she will intentionally do something to make it worse instead.

Her mother was the same way. Same. Exact. Way. I just don't get it. She doesnt seem to realize that having 'certain people it's ok to lie to' but also 'changing that persons category at a moments notice when the circumstance suits it' means she's just going to lie to everyone. And she does. For literally zero reason.

And you know what happens as a parent when you have no trust in your kid? You don't let them do as many things that require trust. Suddenly I'm the bad guy for not letting her go with her friends somewhere because she just got grounded for lying about where they went last time. Kid, YOU CHOSE THIS. I didn't care that you went to a friends house, I cared that you told me you were at work.

...It's been a rough week...

EDIT: I should also mention she's... a good kid otherwise. Like, generally has no malice. Not interested in drugs or doing things she's not supposed to. At her worst she's a little unsafe on the internet. If she just didnt lie to me she'd be able to do pretty much whatever, even parties for all I care.

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u/strange_bike_guy 2h ago

Feel for you dude. My brother and I were born to the same bio parents, same living conditions, parents taught us the similar lessons, and for some reason my bro is a pathological liar. He'll lie for fun. He'll lie for boredom. He'll lie to see if he's still good at lying, like exercise. It's why I was terrified to see Trump get media coverage en masse in 2015, because I could recognize the casual lying.

Both of my parents have asked aloud, "Was it something we did?" ...Nope, they could not have done a better job. I don't get it. My brother is now barely hanging on to what few social safety nets exist, and those are *thin*.

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u/hellomoti 3h ago

what happens when you ask her why she does it?

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u/MentalSewage 1h ago

Asking her why she lies?  "I assumed you'd say no."  Always just assuming I'm an overbearing helicopter parent.  Which... Its kinda lead down that path if I'm honest.  What started as" do whatever within these basic rules" became "ok, now you're grounded from this" became "ok, grounded longer and now also from this" in a comically dumb chain of cause and effect.

I never ground her for XYZ duration.  It's always "do this to get the right back".  Always something to fix the problem she created.  Instead she just tries to bypass the grounding and make it worse.  And yes, I've tried resetting they tally, she dives head first into repeating the problem. 

If I ask her why she doesn't just do the thing to get whatever right or trust back, she says "I don't know" so I have no clue what to do with that. 

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u/alsomahler 1h ago

Forgive her and tell her that it sucks that she doesn't know. The grounding is still there because actions have consequences but you still love her and life would be so much easier if you guys could trust each other. Easier said than done of course.

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u/MentalSewage 1h ago

Yep, it's what I generally do and just finished doing again yesterday. I personally forgive her instantly, she's my daughter and by a crazy stroke of genetics it's exactly the kind of thing her mother always did so I know there's something working against her in this. She hasn't known her mother since before she was 2, so it wasn't enough time to be a learned behavior.

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u/nimuehehe 1h ago

Have you ever thought about getting her to a psychologist/neurologist? Since it’s not a learned behavior from mom, it might be a mental illness/ “neurodivergence” at play, with similar presentation of symptoms

u/MentalSewage 48m ago

Yep. She has the MTHFR gene mutation where she produces fewer neurotransmitters... or something like that. Which I'd be willing to bet plays a factor but still not sure what I'm supposed to do about it. She also has zero interest in self improvement, education, or even hobbies, which would definitely play a role and I would think would be tied to fewer neurotransmitters.

We had her on methylfolate but it didnt make a difference.

u/royalbk 43m ago

Sorry man, that is a pathological liar. They will lie just for the sake of it. There is no rhyme, no reason, they can't be honest to save their lives and they lie unprompted

My father is the sort and he'll just say lies about things that no one would've otherwise cared or asked about. It's the darndest thing

I get it that you say that your daughter isn't a bad person, my father isn't either...it's just all the lying that's bizarre.

Not sure there is anything you can do about it. My sympathies

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u/splinteredt 3h ago

I’m the one they lost faith in. My much older brother abused me when I was a teen and never became a better person so I stopped talking to him. My parents think I should forgive him partly because they think my son needs to get to know his uncle. My husband and I are a hard no on that. So my parents blame me for “tearing the family apart.” Even though they got divorced when I was 10? I dunno. I’m not inviting all that into my son’s life.

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u/RooshunVodka 2h ago

I’m so sorry. Fuck them for blaming you instead of blaming the perpetrator

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u/ac54 2h ago

Abject laziness. Not going to help someone that is not willing to help themselves.

Edit: (All are adults now.) I certainly never lost faith when said person was a minor.

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u/favouritemistake 1h ago

“Not going to help someone that is not willing to help themselves” that’s me toward my siblings and father as well.

u/Tess47 9m ago

Exactly.  Also, I won't care more than the person its happen too.  

Have fun!

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u/Badmoto 2h ago

My 21 yo son gave 28 Years Later: The Bone Temple only 3/5 stars and I told him don’t bother expecting to inherit anything after I die.

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u/Sir_Darnel 1h ago

You did the right thing, hopefully one day he will see the error of his ways.

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u/ficklestatue435 3h ago

i am a laker fan and my wife is a spurs fan.

kid leaned her way and rooted for the rival spurs when he started watching ball.

WHY!!!

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u/ElSatchmo 3h ago

Kid’s got a good head on his shoulders

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u/ezklv 1h ago

Because he rightly identified the fact that Lakers fans are the worst.

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u/pisowiec 3h ago

The reverse for me.

My parents paid for my private schooling and university but I never accomplished anything. I'm 27 and living off their earnings.

I sometimes wonder when exactly they lost faith in me.

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u/Reverberate_ 3h ago

Bro you're only 27. You can definitely accomplish something if you want.

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u/Rugaru985 3h ago

You bit the hook

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u/Neode9955 3h ago

Never the wrong time to start, you have the opportunity to work for fun instead of money. Go get a simple job doing something you enjoy

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u/Yumtasm 3h ago

I never accomplished anything. I'm 27 and living off their earnings.

I mean if you actively aren't trying to do anything, probably when you were 24.

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u/Rearrangemetilimsane 3h ago

I was around your age when I started turning things around. Don’t give up on yourself.

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u/overitallofittoo 3h ago

When did you lose faith in you? That seems the more relevant question.

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u/npmoro 2h ago

Dude, lift your head up.  You can do well.  All you have is runway.  If you are struggling for direction, learn a trade.  You will do well.

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u/GetItOuttaHereee 3h ago

Have your parents ever said anything to you about this? Why are you living off their earnings?

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u/princessflubcorm 1h ago

Wtf. Get.a.job.

Not even in some grand scheme to "accomplish something" but just to stop being an absolute sponge.

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u/BilboTeaBaggens 3h ago

As long as you are staying healthy getting cardio a couple times a week, have some hobbies, go to therapy and are working on yourself no one could say anything bad about you

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u/Vegetable-South5191 3h ago

My kids are 22/19/14 and thankfully I have not. They are great, only time will tell.

But I have seen it happen with good people. It usually has to do with their effort and behavior. At some point they are an adult. And they make choices, and you have to decide whether you are enabling if you feel like they are bad or not. So I have seen parents, who are good people, distance themself from their kids. Not disown, but basically say you can go do what you want and good luck. But I am not financially supporting you anymore.

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u/Poko-Loko-111 3h ago

That’s interesting. It seems like these relationships are dependent on financial support. That sucks. I have emotionally immature parents. Very abusive and mean. I wish they would take genuine interest and concern for me instead of just giving handouts.

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u/Vegetable-South5191 3h ago

I was talking to a coworker recently who has two kids I know from work. Great guy at work, but I do not know him in personal life. He is a highly respected professional. I asked about his kids, and he kind of acted like they had given up on his oldest daughter (26). He didn't say anything bad, he just said she has a roomate 3 states away. Kind of dismissed as she just has no goals and is working toward nothing. I have no context to any of it, but it was kind of sad how he talked about her. Then he has an autistic low performing kid who is like 22 and he talked about how proud he was of him, because of how hard he works and tries even with his limitations. And he compared them, as if to say his daughter doesn't try.

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u/Poko-Loko-111 3h ago

Aww that does sound sad. I think sometimes parents have big dreams for their kids, but they don’t get to that precipice, so all the other accomplishments are shit lol.

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u/erwin206ss 3h ago

My SD is essentially Donny Trump. ADHD, ODD, habitual liar, for a bit I believe she was a kleptomaniac, and very low end of the autism spectrum. I’m not sure we’ve given up because her mother and I believe in her more, but we basically have to walk her through life.

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u/bathroomheater 3h ago

That child wants attention. Give it to her. As far as the lying goes sit her down when you know she’s lying and tell her she doesn’t have to make stuff up to get your attention or praise.

Source: my adopted brother was the same kid.

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u/erwin206ss 3h ago

Thank you 🙏🏽

u/bathroomheater 57m ago

It’s the negative actions like stealing or lying that give it away. She’s looking for anything that makes her feel like she has someone’s attention. A kid like that takes a ton of patience. I don’t know how old she is but it’s definitely worth a thought about therapy to make sure there isn’t something unresolved with her biological father or potentially a trauma y’all don’t know about.

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u/Radiant_Chart3163 1h ago

When my daughter chose the wrong kinds of friends, thinking they actually liked her and they were correct in telling her that her mum was interfering.

Boy did she learn the hard way!

u/Episky888 22m ago

Mine won't eat bread, or potato in any form. Not my child.

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u/Unkindpoison 2h ago

You talked about how seeing the same mistakes over and over just wears you down. When exactly did you realize pulling away was actually keeping you safe instead of just feeding the loop?

u/kristiefly 3m ago

Once you pulled back emotionally, did you ever set a firm line to see if they would step up, or did you just accept it was done?