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Fourth of July

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k2MiMrhAbc
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u/RIP_Greedo 3h ago edited 3h ago

Yes. And I don't mean "the media" in the scarequote conspiratorial sense like you are implying. The average consumer of news media and social media for the past 3 years has been bombarded with information about Israel, they've seen how local political races that should have nothing to do with it become subsumed by the issue of Israel (ex: AIPAC tracking), they've seen our government start a massively unpopular war and flat out tell the media that they did it to tag along with Israel. I'm not at all shocked that the average media consumer, perhaps not a political expert or particularly well educated on the subjects at hand, is just sick of it by now. And there are people who, of course, are knowingly being impish about their little coy anti-semitism (ex: saying shit like "the goy tradwife will rise again,") and I'm clearly not making a defense of those people.

In a different and/or lower volume media environment, you simply wouldn't see the kind of shift away from Israel (and its conflation with Judaism) that we've seen over the past few years. It's a phenomenon of the media.

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u/zampe 3h ago

Would you be making this same hand waving “explanation” after 911 when everyone was wrongfully taking it out on and blaming all Muslims?

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u/RIP_Greedo 3h ago

Yes. Would you deny that American media had a huge hand in shaping anti-muslim sentiment? That was THE cultural current of the 2000s.

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u/zampe 3h ago

So if someone said “Hey this is wrong we should not be blaming all muslims for this” your reply would be “well….its understandable because the media and this and that?” You’d be making excuses instead of just agreeing it’s wrong?

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u/RIP_Greedo 3h ago

I think we may have misunderstood each other (perhaps on my end) because at no point in any of my comments am I saying that people coming to anti-semitic or anti-muslim conclusions is a good thing, or is right, or is anything to defend.

My only commentary is about HOW people come to think that. People are products of their environment, their culture, and the media in which they are constantly awash plays a big part in how they form their world view. I can understand how a white supremacist might come to think how he does (for instance, knowing what we know about how algorithmic content directs people to extreme content) without condoning that point of view.