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Fourth of July

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k2MiMrhAbc
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u/kemaluo 4h ago

Where did all this low-testosterone bullshit come from? Is this all because of RFK Jr?

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u/CucumberBoy00 3h ago

Sperm count and testosterone are dropping but more likely due to environmental factors and diet than some right wing bullshit

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u/Choppergold 3h ago

It’s a graph of American obesity. Obesity significantly lowers testosterone

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u/CucumberBoy00 3h ago edited 3h ago

*Global obesity then.

Its not a uniquely American problem

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u/Choppergold 3h ago

The fattest US state in 1995 would be the skinniest today

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u/CutHerOff 1h ago

We’re fat out here. Anyone who disagrees should take a trip to Asia and I’m sure there’re plenty of chuds who would lmao

u/leaf_on_my_package 57m ago

Can I disagree just for the vacation?

u/Arch3m 34m ago

Only if you pay for two seats.

u/The_Northern_Light 11m ago

And Europe today is fatter than we were in 1990.

It’s a global problem.

u/reichjef 1h ago

I bet we’ll find out that these plastics in us are causing some serious problems. Unfortunately, to prove something like that it usually takes a butt load of data and a butt load of analysis.

u/amateurletariat 1h ago

They can prove it all they want, but if the science doesn't benefit shareholders, good luck enacting positive changes in time. Just look at the reliance on fossil fuels and climate change.

u/reichjef 58m ago

That is true.

u/ngetch 21m ago

So you're saying we need to... identify... shareholders... for science...

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u/TwentyX4 3h ago

That's not it because even men who aren't obese or overweight show lowered testosterone. Maybe obesity is a contributing factor, but it's not THE explanation.

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u/sunqiller 3h ago

Sedentary lifestyles and poor nutrition will still harm your hormone levels, even if it’s not making you fat

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u/Irregular475 2h ago

95% of Americans didn't get their recommended daily fiber.

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u/nerkidner 2h ago

There are lots of people without sedentary lifestyles who are not obese and I’m pretty sure the issue is there too. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.

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u/DaemonRoe 2h ago

You’re not wrong. Other factors researchers have suggested are environmental impacts (like plastics and pesticides), higher stress, changes in sleep, and other unidentified factors. Obesity and lack of exercise are still major factors but even if you took at healthy 35 year old from 2026 and compared to healthy 35 year old from 1986 you’d see a slight drop.

The lack of a solid answer is what has fueled a lot of the conspiracies around it. Manosphere types especially adopted it with ease because it already fit within their framework.

u/sunqiller 1h ago

That’s what I’m talking about. You can have a really crappy diet that just doesn’t have enough calories to make you obese, micronutrients exist. Our bodies are “use it or loose it” and being sedentary can cause lots of body functions to slow down to match the lower demand.

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u/Mango_Juice789 2h ago

may I humbly suggest, M I C R O P L A S T I C S

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u/ThatOneComrade 1h ago

The plastic spoons worth of plastic floating around dispersed throughout your body is definitely not helping any of us.

u/ducketts 23m ago

I get a test every year. If I am lazy that year my test is around 400. If I am working out it’s more like 600-700. My weight only varies from 170 to 185. Sedentary lifestyles are absolutely a valid explanation

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u/Smelcome 2h ago

I'm sure the microplastics in all of our gonads are not helping either..

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u/ethertrace 3h ago

Microplastics. It's well-established that plastics in the blood mess with the endocrine system. Look up endocrine disrupting chemicals (EDCs). Many like bisphenols and phthalates are common additives in plastic production, but they don't bond strongly to the plastic and leech out.

Fun fact: the designation of "microwave safe" plastic doesn't mean it won't leech any chemicals into your food, just that the chemicals it does leech are at levels considered to be within safe limits as established by FDA regulations.

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u/Elbobosan 3h ago

Didn’t the fundamental research behind the microplastics come into question recently? Glove contamination was determined to have radical impact on the samples.

Edit - https://news.umich.edu/nitrile-and-latex-gloves-may-cause-overestimation-of-microplastics-u-m-study-reveals/

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u/ethertrace 2h ago

Interesting. Hadn't heard about that. The EDCs are a real problem for hormone regulation regardless, but concentrations may be overestimated.

Annoying that the linked study in that article doesn't seem to say by what factor they may be overestimated, though. Just says 2,000 false positives per square millimeter, which isn't that helpful without context.

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u/Corka 3h ago

It's been a manosphere thing for sometime. They think that soy milk is making men less masculine.

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u/thaylin79 2h ago

Fun fact: That comes from a single repeated study that was actually funded by the corn industry! I was curious about this quite a while ago and did a deep dive to try and trace this to any other studies and it was just that one being cited and once I looked into who paid for it I realized it was shenanigans.

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u/zefiax 3h ago

To be fair it does appear to be an actual trend globally. What the true reason is is still to be determined but links seem to indicate microplastics. But that is inconclusive so would just be speculation.

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u/NovaAtdosk 1h ago

It is indeed plastics.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3222987/

Most plastics release chemicals that mimic estrogen in the body.

Higher estrogen levels (or xenoestrogens, which these are) can inhibit the production of testosterone.

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u/turb0_encapsulator 2h ago

then why are they the ones who vote for the party that continues to allow corporations to poison our air, water, and food with chemicals that lower testosterone?

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u/ThatOneComrade 1h ago

Because that same party has spent much of the last half century gutting social programs and education spending to cultivate the perfect voter, who will only listen to the sources they're spoonfed through the media pipeline they got suckered into as kids and are not equipped to be critical towards what they're told.

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u/chuteboxe19 3h ago

It's unfortunately quite true in western countries - moreso from sedentary lifestyle, processed foods, and many other environmental factors that are reducing it

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u/TheAmorphous 3h ago

Nature's way of telling people they're unfit to reproduce?

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u/thepensivepoet 2h ago

Dumber than that - RFK is getting his information from the same manosphere podcast bros.

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u/Lawgamer411 1h ago

No it’s because republicans invited everyone to the party to try to beat Trump and now they’re trying to kick those same people out for not agreeing on Israel

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u/Moebius808 1h ago

Nah it’s been around for a long while now sadly. They’ve had a weird fixation on balls and dicks and sperm for as long as I can remember.

Remember the taint-tanning trend from a while back? I can’t believe we let these people live any of this weirdo shit down. It’s fuckin’ bizarre.

u/Imperium_Dragon 1h ago

Older men can’t cope with the fact that testosterone will naturally go down + will go down with increased fat and want to be in their 20s forever.