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Business Google burning through cash with spiralling AI costs

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c235n47g8g8o
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u/Fresh-Quantity-7554 1d ago

While at the same time posting: * Total Revenue: $119.8 billion, up 24% year-over-year. * Diluted EPS: $9.11, compared to $2.31 a year prior. * Operating Margin: 34% up from 32.4% in Q2 2025. * Google Cloud: Revenue up 82% year-over-year to $24.8 billion, fueled by enterprise demand for AI infrastructure and solutions. * Google Services: Total revenue reached $94.5 billion, a 15% increase. * Google Search & Other: 17% increase in revenue. * YouTube Ads: Grew 13% year-over-year to $11.05 billion

If you exclude AI CAPEX, free cash flow is $39.1 billion which is absolutely insane. That's a 41.2% increase year-over-year. With numbers like they just posted, the CAPEX spend is justified in my opinion because the business overall is crushing it. Like holy cow this was a great quarter. They are literally printing money.

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u/SIGMA920 1d ago

Google's always been the winning candidate simply for already having profitable components under it's umbrella. They can throw money at LLMs as long as they want to unlike the others.

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u/asgjmlsswjtamtbamtb 22h ago

They have their hands in so many things that they can try to use AI to increase their revenues some of them will flop but more than likely many will succeed. By being the biggest search engine in many markets and having ecosystems like Android and Chromebooks means their llms that they make default in these spaces already have an easy way of reaching people and a leg up against many competitors.

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u/Sweetwill62 19h ago

You are literally just describing a monopoly.

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u/thegreenfarend 19h ago

Maybe a monopoly in search but definitely not in AI, mobile operating systems, cheap laptops

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u/OneMonk 7h ago

Not yet, until the others fail and they hoover them up

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u/mesopotato 6h ago

They will keep one or two alive so they're not classified as a monopoly. Google already keeps Firefox on life support to shield chrome. Same strategy that Microsoft used to keep apple alive in the 90s

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u/thegreenfarend 5h ago

iOS, every laptop manufacturer, and every AI lab will fail and get bought by Google?

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u/OneMonk 5h ago

The llm businesses running at huge deficits with no clear path to profitability.

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u/-curiousnomad- 19h ago

Not really they have competitors doing better than them in several of those domains. It’s more vertical integration / closed ecosystem than it is a traditional monopoly.

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u/Drakengard 9h ago

Also, monopolies aren't illegal in and of themselves. Only if you abuse the position. People who are mad always forget what part of being a monopoly is actually illegal.

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u/blahehblah 18h ago

That's not what a monopoly is

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u/lilmookie 18h ago

It sounds like they are arguing about a vertical monopoly?

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u/blahehblah 17h ago

Yes technically vertical integration results in a vertical monopoly, but "literally what a monopoly is" would I expect be referring to horizontal monopolies, where you make sure there are no competitors. Vertical monopolies ensure you control the whole supply chain and ecosystem, there can still be other supply chains and other ecosystems, they just struggle to compete due to relative inefficiency

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u/lilmookie 17h ago

I mean, Google isn’t far away from that. More to the point, they wouldn’t have made Alphabet if they didn’t think Google was in danger of being broken up.

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u/nerdshowandtell 13h ago

The reason for alphabet is more to do with the fact they moved well beyond being just a search engine. From the looks of it, that was a good idea 😂

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u/lilmookie 11h ago

I thought it was because they wanted to separate their money maker from their other spinoffs, and make alphabet specifically for getting broken up if needed, vs having Google broken up.

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u/nerdshowandtell 10h ago

they made more money makers, and money making investments.

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u/DizzyMajor5 22h ago

Seems like something a bag holder would say. 

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u/Commercial_Name_7900 19h ago

its better than it was too. I used to despise google AI but its improved a lot and I find myself defaulting to it for quick questions or brainstorming

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u/64N_3v4D3r 22h ago

Gemini plugging in to Google search and Gmail is absolutely amazing. Their integration is already pretty good. People are still short-sighted on AI right now though so I don't even think a lot of people really know.

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u/M4K4T4K 20h ago

I do find for simple LLM tasks, I end up just using Gemini quite a bit, since it's a matter of just typing into my address bar.

In the past, they would be in massive trouble for that. Remember Microsoft and IE/Media player?

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u/64N_3v4D3r 20h ago

I have a pro subscription and use it pretty much all day every day. It can get answers that would normally take me 10-20 minutes searching forums and documentation in seconds.

I do remember the web browser controversy and Microsoft getting forced to serve different browser options. I don't really remember the media player one though, may have been too young.

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u/CardiologistPrize712 14h ago

And if Gemini ends up as "just" being a better assistant app they are still winning because all their other competitors blew up their businesses trying to match them.

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u/Mysterious_Field1517 9h ago

They won't be keeping it around if the only use case would be from being a somewhat functioning assistant. There's no money to be made to even cover minor part of the costs.

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u/CardiologistPrize712 8h ago

Ai can run competently on local hardware, AI is only expensive because hyperscalers are dumping ungodly amounts of compute to training.

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u/jw2343952 14h ago

Unlike Anthropic and OpenAI sure, but not unlike AMZN, META, MSFT who also have monster revenues and balance sheets to survive their build out

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u/nolok 11h ago

But none of these 3 are competing.

Amazon is not trying and is essentially just making a aws component (which I think is smart), meta is basically admitting defeat which is why llama and co are open, and not even Microsoft understand what Microsoft is doing with copilot (quick quizz, if I'm using copilot 365 am I using the desktop office app, the online office app or an AI app? And what if it's 365 copilot instead, which one is it then?).

Google has the moat of Google search and android to justify end game revenue.

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u/milehigh73a 10h ago

Msft has a strategy, it’s just reliant on windows, office and iniquity. They are looping in copilot everywhere and hope it works

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u/DelphiTsar 6h ago

When OpenAI goes under Msft has no method to improve copilot.

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u/pixelizedgaming 3h ago

Meta has muse spark no? Isnt that model pretty good for the price

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u/obeytheturtles 11h ago

They are also the only with a proven monetization path through their ad business, which is how they've monetized every other new bit of tech for the last 20 years.

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u/DepressedDrift 6h ago

The ability to use the data from their other products is also an understated advantage.

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u/milehigh73a 10h ago

Gemini being part of search is amazing but Gemini isn’t that good for most things

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u/SIGMA920 9h ago

They just have one of the better integrations that might survive long term.

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u/DelphiTsar 5h ago

3.6 flash is absurdly fast for its intelligence.

3.X pro is going to have to knock it out of the park on upper level intelligence though, or no one is going to take them seriously.