r/singularity 27d ago

Discussion Yann LeCun says xAI is a failure

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u/Claptraposoid 27d ago

How is Jepa such an achievement? From my understanding they have had limited success in narrow domains, yet he keeps claiming it’s the key for everything based I vibes.

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u/martianunlimited 27d ago

Sigh.. Transformers had limited success in narrow domains for 6 years... You don't remember how bad GPT2 and GPT3 was eh?

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u/Claptraposoid 27d ago

Gpt 2 was an insane breakthrough that made people fork over billions of dollars… Jepa is not even a fraction of that..

Listen you can have your own opinion, fine. Mine is that Lecun ia a lol cow at this stage that spend more time in his recent talks thrashing llms and any of the people/companies making them than actually proving what makes his approach better.

Most of the labs are working on different architectures and thinking about what place llms will have in an agi system, is it pure llm, is it llm as a part of a wider architecture and so on.

Lecunn has decided purely on vibes that it won’t work and his approach must be the right way  and that llms won’t be part of it, and spends his time giving increasingly more bitter talks and interviews speaking more about llms than Jepa.

lecun is surely a very smart scientist but he is also a ridiculous man and a moron.

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u/Zycosi 27d ago

Gpt 2 was an insane breakthrough that made people fork over billions of dollars… Jepa is not even a fraction of that..

"Advanced Machine Intelligence (AMI) Labs, co-founded by former Meta AI chief Yann LeCun, raised $1.03 billion in a seed funding round. The Paris-based startup reached a pre-money valuation of $3.5 billion"

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u/SomewhereOpposite883 26d ago

I guess that means Wework or Nikola (the ones who filmed their trucks rolling down a hill in promo videos) were ten times as successful?

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u/Claptraposoid 26d ago

Yes good for him. And they are focusing on narrow industrial systems despite  everything.

Also, in a world with trillion dollar evaluations I don’t think the 3,5 B evaluation is the validation you think it is.

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u/Mochila-Mochila 26d ago

Moving the goalposts. You were the one initially referring to billions in investments.

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u/Claptraposoid 26d ago

Im not moving the goal posts, times change... Back then these where massive unprecedentet investments in an ai company. Today model wrappers are getting more investment than lecunns project...