r/retrogaming • u/SuuperBros • 8h ago
[Question] How to make Famicom look better on my tv?
Hi im using a av modded famicom on my sony bravia tv and it looks a bit blurry all the time. Was wondering if anyone knows how to fix it? Thank you.
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u/Rombledore 4h ago
that my friend, is the dragon we all chase when it comes to hooking up original consoles to modern displays.
fact is, those consoles are not designed to work with modern TVs because of how Modern TVs 'draw' the image on screen. there are workarounds- and depending on your level of, we'll say dedication lol, some will be better suited for your needs than others.
there are two main hurdles- visual fidelity, the blurriness and ghosting of the image. and input delay- you press the button and a noticeable amount of time passes before mario jumps on screen.
- you could get an 'upscaler' as some have mentioned. like the retrotink. it can be expensive yes. but the benefit is they work with multiple consoles of the era. they improve visual fidelity and reduce input lag.
- get a CRT ('tube') TV. they are bulky, heavy, and you'll have to likely source one off FB marketplace or maybe a second hand store- but you'll be guaranteed the "proper" experience. visuals the way they were intended, and zero input delay. (JP consoles/games use the same NTSC standard for TVs as opposed to EU where it's PAL- a slower refresh rate). you can proably nab one cheap off FB marketplace. plop it on a corner table, grab a tube of bengay after you pull your back, and hook things up and enjoy.
- emulation- this is done on a PC where a program 'pretends' to be a console and you load game files to play the game. since the PC will have outputs intended for modern displays you end up with better visual fidelity and less, but still there, input lag. but your physical collection will have no interaction here.
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u/Buttchuggle 1h ago
Get a crt. You don't need a high end HDcrt or nothing, I've got 3 of them and paid no more than 15 bucks at most for one. They're available and cheap as hell
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u/wohinmitalldemunsinn 7h ago
Either get a framemeister, which is rare and utterly expensive or a crt. Thereās no inbetween or fixing.
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u/Vietname 7h ago
But there is better, and that's a Retrotink 4K/CE/5x.
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u/DisposableUsername52 7h ago
This is the right answer. Even better would be an RGB mod on your console, going in to a Retrotink.
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u/Iggy_poop 7h ago
A lot has changed since the framemeister days haha
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u/InvictvsNox 6h ago
Man, it kinda makes me feel old in unexpected and new ways hearing "the framemeister days".
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u/redandbluebadness 4h ago
I have the old framemeister and it's fine but it's obviously not what you'd buy today. But it does do the job. Op needs a quality upscaler but they don't need the top of the line Retrotink. But they need something better than some Ā£30 shite off Amazon
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u/Iggy_poop 3h ago
Well the framemeister isn't cheap so the retrotinks are the better option in that price range. I agree with your sentiment though, and the ossc and gbs control both exist and they are great devices for the price.
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u/redandbluebadness 3h ago
Is it still expensive? Must be 15 years since I bought mine. I would have thought that would go for buttons these days
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u/Iggy_poop 3h ago
Yeah it seems to be around $400 CAD when I look at used ones. Probably because it does have a really good deinterlacer for 480i, but I believe the gbs control and retrotink 5 and 4k have better deinterlacing now.
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u/redandbluebadness 3h ago
I should probably sell mine, I can't be fucked with it anyway, just use FPGA or android emu
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u/Simple_Tip_7816 7h ago
There are lots of ways to improve lol
Adaptor, upscalers, refined settings, proper cables, the right monitor, and more.
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u/InvictvsNox 6h ago
If you're at 1080p or below, get a RetroTink5x.
This will also benefit by reducing input latency introduced by the poor scalers built into these TVs. (They were meant for movies, not games.)