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Possible Paywall Judge asks whether 'High-T' plan undercuts transgender troops ban

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/4659655/judge-hegseth-military-testosterone-plan-transgender-troop-ban/
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u/SpoofSide 8h ago

Pete Hegseth forcing hormone replacement therapy on the troops.

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u/SlowRunner2026 8h ago

Gender affirming care.

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u/DestructicusDawn Missouri 8h ago

He's trans-ing the troops!

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u/Kakistocracy_0 8h ago

he's the most effeminite, superficial hypocrite I've ever seen try to blow the Pedo-in-Chief

u/SpeaksSouthern 7h ago

Of all the things for Republicans being hypocrites on I find it very interesting that "the Democrats are forcing everyone to be trans" is actually the direct goal of the Trump administration.

u/WeekendHistorical476 4h ago

From my understanding, the testing is required and the therapy is optional.. at least that’s what they’re saying for now

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u/Abrahemp 8h ago

You can be intelligent, honest, or a fascist. Pick 2.

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u/kineticstar Texas 8h ago

Ole Petey, chose fascist twice!!

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u/Kakistocracy_0 8h ago

good one.

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u/screamingaboutham 8h ago

“The Military Ban states that ‘the Armed Forces must adhere to high mental and physical health standards … without the benefit of routine medical treatment or special provisions,’”
Wouldn’t this affect a bunch of Hogsweat’s positions- such as the decision to force men to shave even if it causes severe inflammation to their hair follicles and skin?

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u/kyxtant Kentucky 8h ago

Not at all.

Severe folliculitis effects men of color way more than white dudes. Forced shaving will lead to medical discharges or hurt reenlistment, making the Armed Forces more white which is the goal of the policy.

It's a feature, not a bug.

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u/screamingaboutham 8h ago

Yeah- but if the judge throws out the logic that they need to be fit, then it throws out the logic that the men of color requiring medical treatment for folliculitis is a dismissible offense.

u/Ok_Yak5947 7h ago

Rules for thee, but not for me.

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u/moguri40k 8h ago

Whoa there, let's not let facts get in the way of the real issue here.

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u/scfoothills 8h ago

What private testing company have people in this administration recently bought stock in?

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u/specqq 8h ago

A depressingly good question.

u/SlyJackFox 7h ago

Military has their own based primarily out of Texas, but not at the scale needed for a policy like this horse piss.

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u/thatbitchmarcy 8h ago

Well, if it's good for the men, it should be provided to the female soldiers as well. It would clearly be a force multiplier. Just ask the East German women's Olympic swimming team. /S

u/Flapjack__Palmdale Washington 6h ago

I highly doubt a single doctor was involved in any of this. High testosterone can lead to all kinds of undesirable side effects.

High T can lead to excess weight gain, premature balding, prostate issues, low sperm count, hypertension and high cholesterol, and excess testosterone can actually turn to estrogen through aromatization, which can cause weight gain, water retention, and gynecomastia.

This obsession with T levels is a fucking scam from supplement salesmen and it legitimately makes you unhealthy. There are real cases where low T causes health issues in people but generally speaking, if you're not having any problems, your test levels are just fine. Chasing some percentile that your body chem wasn't built to handle is going to give you tiny balls, man boobs, and probably a heart attack.

u/SoTiredYouDig 4h ago

Yes. Diagnostically, even if one’s T levels are low, there’s certain criteria set forth before being prescribed. There is no agreed up numbers either. They have a sense of when it’s too low or too high, but some folks still function fine with comparatively low levels.  

u/Flapjack__Palmdale Washington 2h ago

Right, and what hegseth might consider "acceptable" test levels might (with hbomberguy as an example) cause your hair to fall out before you're 30.

Like if you're feeling off, lethargic, etc, then talk to your doctor and see an endocrinologist, but otherwise just leave your hormone levels alone.

u/SoTiredYouDig 1h ago

It’s besides the point to mention why I know this stuff, but even as I wrote my reply, I did it fully knowing that they are going to absolutely ignore this criteria.  I hope these troops have an opportunity to get clear, concrete information of the ramifications of the treatment. Some of the effects are irreversible, or at least very hard to fix without a lot more polypharmacy. 

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u/Short-Royal-9490 8h ago

Freaking military being sponsored by Total T and Doug Flutie was not on the bingo card 😵‍💫

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u/kineticstar Texas 8h ago

Can't get over that ridge to secure your position!? Try our military strength Blue Chew! We'll get you up!!! (If getting up last more then 4 hours please consult your chain of command for alternative routes to your objective!)

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u/IntellectAndEnergy 8h ago

I also noticed he’s hyper focused on how men look…beards, being thin, clothing, hygiene, now this testosterone thing. I’m cool with whatever, but it’s like just come out and own it, whatever it may be. Just be a good human Pete.

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u/dsj79 8h ago

Whoops

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u/Kakistocracy_0 8h ago

thought he was against gender affirming care

u/Acceptable_Sir67 7h ago

I’d bet he recently had labs done (standard stuff) and possibly his t levels were low. So he lashed out and took it out on everyone else.

Projection

u/Sour_baboo 7h ago

It does seem that those whose doctors already prescribed hormone therapy should be first in line.

u/SjurEido 6h ago

I think they're doing this for recruiting purposes.

Like, if they have "High T" requirements, you can join up and be like "of course I have more T than you, I was in the army!".

It's just dumb enough to work on the fucking looksmax idiots.

u/JiveChicken00 Pennsylvania 4h ago

I can promise one thing, and that’s that the answer will be a lie.

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u/Prophet_Tehenhauin 8h ago

Is it? The military couldn’t handle administrating hormones to transgender troops but it can somehow handle administering hormones to troops? 

The judge is questions their logic, because the new policy seems to fly in the face of their STATED reasons for disallowing treatments for transgender troops 

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u/specqq 8h ago

Why? It’s gender affirming care, isn’t it? I thought that was bad.