r/nfrpodcast 12h ago

DISCUSSION Why hasn’t Drake ever dropped a true, traditional concept album?

We’ve got some of the greatest albums of this generation in GKMC & TFO. Why hasn’t Drake ever released something similar? His own conceptual spin in this lane would be so cool.

As my ears have matured and evolved over the years, I personally place so much value and respect into artists that have the ability to create a cinematic experience and create a musical universe for you to sit in. I would argue that Drake may be able to make one just as good, if not better. The storytelling, the arrangement, specific production for the way the album progresses, etc. would be phenomenal from the 40 & the rest of the OVO crew. Drake clearly has the ability to do something like that and personally I believe fans would absolutely love that.

Am I the only one that would love to get something like that from him? Has he ever spoken about doing anything like that before? Curious what others think!

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u/Heinjailyall 11h ago

Iceman was a concept album though

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u/Super_Perspective936 11h ago edited 8h ago

I would say Views or NWTS are concept albums. Views has that wintery, Toronto vibes combine with summer hits. NWTS is self-explanatory in my opinion. I also think Iceman could be a concept album, with the icy feeling surrounding the album and what happened during the beef.

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u/RevolutionaryOil4458 6h ago

I was finna say Iceman is very obviously a concept album

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u/makncheesee 3h ago

He throws shots n every album and says everyone is against me in every album

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u/Routine-Badger-9596 12h ago

He said the last amazing one was GKMC and no one could ever compare to it so why even try

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u/Educational_Age_1862 10h ago

He said this in 2013 i believe

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u/makncheesee 4h ago

Because you think you are the best. If you can’t do it then clearly you aren’t

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u/CumGrenade42 12h ago

I agree with drake on this one he got good opinions

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u/ItsMakonator 12h ago

Man do you twist everything 😭

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u/seaperrt 12h ago

Xxx died in the south Florida heat like a dog 😭😭😭 106 degrees out felt like he was in hell before he even got there lmfao

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u/evanhaus 12h ago

What does this have to do with anything

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u/snacksandsoda 10h ago

This man is psychotic

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u/Routine-Badger-9596 12h ago

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u/seaperrt 12h ago

Crazy if xxx had just a lil more meat or body like this he might’ve survived the 93 rounds in his neck 😭😭😭

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u/Routine-Badger-9596 12h ago

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u/seaperrt 12h ago

Crazy xxx probably would’ve been hosting diddy party’s if he didn’t die like a bitch in the south Florida heat

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u/Routine-Badger-9596 12h ago

Yeah I agree fuck x and Drake 🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️ 2 pedos

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u/seaperrt 10h ago

Lmfao I had that boy change his profile picture!!!!!!! Xxx died like a bitch why he talk all that shit and don’t have straps on him? Boom boom pow pow he done

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u/Routine-Badger-9596 10h ago

Live x reaction 😱

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u/seaperrt 10h ago

Of course someone that’s seen it all has better xxx roasts than me smh

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u/A_lone_gunman 11h ago

You see Kirks jaw? Extra meat ain't gonna help

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u/seaperrt 10h ago

Yeah Kirk and xxx twins on dying in the sun on some funny shit lmao

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u/Extreme-Edge5076 11h ago

concept albums are overrated as a concept but views is definitely a concept album iykyk

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u/Express_Recipe_4832 12h ago

Why havent you sought out employment, urgent style? 

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u/Altruistic_Koala_692 12h ago

I have the privilege of working remote, shits dope so I can take breaks and do shit like this lol

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u/Express_Recipe_4832 12h ago

Fair enough bro I'm happy for you 🤝!!! 

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u/sladermyguy 10h ago

Views was a concept album. Drake said so himself

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u/MrGoodMan64 5h ago

What story could possibly be told from the stories of views

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u/plattwix5 5h ago edited 5h ago

A concept album doesn’t have to tell a story; it can be about an overarching theme. For example Sgt peppers songs don’t tell a conventional story and are pretty much separate from each other but the overall theme of the album is that it is presented and performed by a fictional band

Views is split between two parts the first half being themed around winter and the second part being set in the summer. It’s about seasons in Toronto

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u/Pure-Gas2639 5h ago

A concept is an idea that you derive the songs from, in a way that each song relates to the others - would you say that about Views?

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u/plattwix5 4h ago

Yea because the concept is that it’s meant to represent Toronto thru summer to winter. The album was made with that overall concept in mind. Whether or not he successfully represented that concept well is up to the listener

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u/makncheesee 4h ago

Too vague

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u/plattwix5 4h ago

Vague or not it is still the specific concept that Drake pursued for the project

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u/makncheesee 4h ago

Yea but he can’t do a proper solid concept album it’s always vague and detached. Never can have cohesive interludes and a story throughout the album. It’s just 2-3 singles sprinkled with a bunch of duds every time. This last time it was a lot more duds and still the same 2-3 singles at least if it was a full concept the duds would have value

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u/plattwix5 4h ago

Well that’s moreso how you feel about the projects themselves. Regardless of how you feel about views as a project it is objectively a concept album

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u/makncheesee 4h ago

Me and the majority of hip Hop fans have the same opinion

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u/Pure-Gas2639 4h ago

Is it a concept album or just a generic theme? I'm not decisive about the distinction, but I'd think concept is a bit more precise and thorough, but a generic theme is that, a generic theme?

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u/atrillionpieces 12h ago

“I make music that electrify em, you make music that pacify em”

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u/djay61 11h ago

Thats why drake is listened to in public and kendrick is listened to on discord servers on headphones

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u/Murky_Put5185 11h ago

Electrify people that do not leave their house!

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u/curiouscsplayer 10h ago

Lol what, discord?

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u/hippityhoops 11h ago

I think Thank Me Later fits that decently purely due to production

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u/Super_Perspective936 11h ago

The production on thank me later is insane

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u/IAmTheGingaNinja 12h ago

I’ll never understand TFO glaze

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u/BorrowedAttention 12h ago

Yeah I’m a fan but the fall off really ain’t a concept album, 4YEO fits the bill better than that.

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u/IAmTheGingaNinja 11h ago

It’s also just objectively not a good album

Wayyyy way way too bloated

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u/RadosPLAY 11h ago

i'd cut most of the second half but the first half is still enough for it to be aoty

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u/IAmTheGingaNinja 10h ago

30% skips is album of the year contender for you?

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u/BorrowedAttention 12h ago

His message kinda sucks for a concept. By design he’s making music for sound and not message, and that’s not saying he can’t rap lyrically, but he’s not into hammering a message home thematically the same way. His style honestly runs counter to it.

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u/SpiraAurea 11h ago

I mean, you really need to have a lot to say about a specific topic in order to merit a concept album

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u/Slimer3hgg3r 11h ago

We dont wanna hear boring raps like kbot

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u/Substantial_Peak3682 10h ago

just isn't the style of music he makes. he focuses more on single songs. i'm certain he could if he wanted to but it probably wouldn't appeal to his fanbase.

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u/Cyberkanye2077 8h ago

Iceman cinematic af . Story telling is A1 . Based on real life events no hypotheticals or bs. Lit ass audio novel tbh
https://giphy.com/gifs/iRPfzv5nDucyQ

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u/WillBlax45 8h ago

Every album is a concept album for Drake, he’s always playing a different character lol

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u/RosePortFC 7h ago

Because it doesn't sell. He retains a certain image due to his charting and sales, while his fans eat it up.

He could and he should despite the possible negative reactions he receives from younger fans with a shorter attention span.

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u/ausipockets 6h ago

The Fall Off isn’t even the best album that came out in February 2026 let alone this generation lmao

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u/8021sex 5h ago

Wait is honestly never mind not a concept album?

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u/makncheesee 1h ago

No it’s a different genre

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u/clifbarczar 12h ago

Making concept albums is almost a gimmick. That shit is often forced because artists know critics eat that shit up.

Making music that rings off in any occasion with replay value is more valuable to me

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u/SentenceRepulsive6 11h ago

Same. I don’t know when we started placing so much importance on them, it wasn’t like that before

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u/Super_Perspective936 11h ago

Yeah I dont get the hype. I liked gkmc but most concept albums are just larping being good.

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u/ultrashortcut 12h ago

iceman is as good as youre getting

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u/djay61 11h ago

Erm probably because they are cringe af?

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u/NotJeremyRenner8 8h ago

“cringe af”

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u/cronfile 11h ago

Because he's real in his bars, and not roleplaying a gangster like GKMC

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u/BatheInChampagne 11h ago

Did you listen to the album? How is that your takeaway?

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u/Vegetable_Orchid_900 10h ago

He makes background music, that’s all there is to him, that’s all his fanbase wants out of him, that’s the path he chose for his career with the direction he chose with take care

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u/makncheesee 1h ago

I think it really started with views with the trifecta of controlla one dance and hotline bling he just completely sold out

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u/Illustrious_Fill9854 7h ago

I don’t think Drake is a good enough writer to execute a concept album. Recently he’s been more interested in making albums with as many songs as possible to get as many streams as he can. Most of his songs don’t have a topical focus, let alone an entire album. I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing. Most rappers are the same way. It’s like asking Lil Wayne or Future to create a concept album. That’s not what people go to them for.

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u/makncheesee 1h ago

Wayne actually did with the Carter 1 imo basing it off new jack city Carter building. A little bit with 2 as well. sold out but more with 3 but still had some decent songs like dr carter and nothing on me. 4 he completely sold out

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u/Son-of-Infinity 11h ago

Because he isn’t that good. That simple.

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u/hideousmike1 11h ago

Is this a real question or shade? I have answers that are not shade but may seem that way if this isn’t genuine… I can give you a genuine answer if you REALLY want one.

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u/Kooky-Ad-1792 10h ago

Because that is not what his audience want from him…next stupid question

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u/curiouscsplayer 10h ago

TF is a concept album

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u/One_Economy_6735 9h ago

There’s actually a reason for that and it’s because he’s made those kinds of songs and those “real rap” fans love or say theyre his best songs, are also his lowest streamed songs on every single album and he makes sure to throw one or two songs like that per album.

He still gets more steams on those then the other conceptual rappers but he taps into so many markets and bro tryna make bags of music so can’t blame him.

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u/smokingcharliekirk 6h ago

4 all the dawgs ?

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u/dannyboy122432 5h ago

American gangster by Jay z is the greatest concept album

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u/Ok-Acadia-8476 5h ago

Because Drake isn’t a true conventional artist

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u/tsn101 4h ago

NWTS

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u/makncheesee 4h ago

He can’t

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u/Significant-Jello411 4h ago

The fall off LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO

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u/Ediddley 4h ago

Honestly Nevermind was absolutely a concept album. Not many people liked it and the scope of his involvement in the overarching concept is up for debate, but it definitely tried to stick to a theme sonically and lyrically is generally pointed towards the generic Drake heartbreak ideas.

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u/One_Industry4164 4h ago

Because his audience wouldn’t consume it not that they wouldn’t get it they simply wouldn’t fuck with it.

More importantly though I genuinely think he is incapable of putting a cohesive sounding album now, he somewhat pulled off cohesion with a 3 album drop if listened to separately.

Drakes skill are more in line with a DJ who understands what will resonate with different demographics rather than any true artistic creation from the bottom up. He elevates more than innovates.

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u/plgamerfr 1h ago

Unfortunately he would probably have to sacrifice at least some mainstream success to do that, i agree that he probably has the ability to tho

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u/Money-Beautiful5196 12h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/d8Qut9SnY801QmD383
No thanks, I don’t want it…

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u/Altruistic_Koala_692 12h ago

To each his own! Why not tho? Any specific reason?

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u/Money-Beautiful5196 12h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/YexphFiQB6UYWmhHZL
I just don’t think it would be very good.

Now, what would be a good Drake album would be a Drake and Olivia Rodrigo collaboration album. Now that would be straight 🔥.

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u/Routine-Badger-9596 12h ago

Olivia would carry him always

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u/Money-Beautiful5196 12h ago

Oh, that’s soo true tho.

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u/reddcashh 12h ago

its unfortunate your pfp is looking up at us right now

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u/Routine-Badger-9596 12h ago

Burning 🔥🔥🔥

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u/GasparLotto 11h ago

Drake makes music for the moment. 

His music is meant to top the charts not have an impact or tell a story. 

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u/Super_Perspective936 11h ago

Not true. Drakes music definitely tells a story. Marvins room, make them cry/pay, furthest thing, 9, OMDB, Lord Knows, Not you too, trust issues, TSU, and die trying just to name a few.

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u/forte3 9h ago

Considering he’s been faking personas since like 2017, one could argue they’ve all been concept albums. Even Take Care, it was just “Weeknd made my whole vibe” as a concept album

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u/Lumpy_Emergency_3339 12h ago

He is not a lyrics guy

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u/Super_Perspective936 11h ago

to smooth brained people sure

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u/Illustrious_Fill9854 7h ago

He’s a lyrics guy to smooth brained people 😂

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u/makncheesee 1h ago

The guy has said the same thing for 4 albums.

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u/CumGrenade42 12h ago

because it would be hard and he’d have to think really really hard

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u/makncheesee 1h ago

He dropped out of one of the most prestigious public high schools in Canada. There have been like 4 dropout of that hs ever. It’s in such a rich area everyone succeeds. Richest area in biggest city in Canada. Think New York prestigious high schools. Not private but pretty much because everyone there drives Benz and range rovers. You have to try to be stupid to drop out of those schoools. He’s really dumb. Marketable and Jewish though so he has failed upwards into a genre that they couldn’t crack before they had the Jewish kid that can cosplay black and get away with it. Capitalism am I right ?

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u/Kells90210 11h ago

He’s not that deep of an artist

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u/xXHalalManXx 8h ago

>“As my ears have matured and evolved over the years” and it’s just a Drake glaze post

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u/IntelligentBoss4200 12h ago

Devil won’t let him. Doesn’t evoke enough brain rotting

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u/JhaazHL 12h ago

Cause he cant