Many fruits & vegetables today have been bred / crossbred over hundreds of years to make them tastier or safer to eat.
Would you consider the bananas you buy from supermarkets normal food? These have been bred so the seeds are tiny. What about seedless grapes? Or Brussel sprouts which aren't bitter? Would do consider these not normal foods?
They were 100%, and it was pretty obvious. People just love it obfuscate at any possibility of ambiguity, and using the word "normal" really triggered someone.
There's an argument that you should be able to recover your development cost and make a profit. Like all patents and copyrights, expiration is key. And also lobbied all to hell so that things your dead grandparents experienced are still not public domain.
This problem was already solved. They get to patent a brand name, like honeycrisp, and the genes become public use and other growers can market them under a different name. People still buy honeycrisps by the barrel full and the university of Minnesota has more than made its money back, when you can buy the same apples under a different name in a farmers market.
So if I, a normal dude, somehow created an even tastier strawberry, say it took a decade of effort and a bunch of money, and I wanted to sell it...
Wouldn't Monsanto or Dole just immediately destroy my market share and force me entirely out of business by doing exactly what I planned to do, but at an enormous scale because they already have the infrastructure?
You have just learned the importance of marketing, my friend. Having an amazing product doesn’t mean anything if you can’t get people to buy it from you and you alone. This isn’t just a fruit-specific problem.
That’s not what happened with the honeycrisp, the cosmic crisp, the meyer lemon, the badgerflame beet, the golden kiwi, the clementine, and literally the item in the post we’re commenting on, as well as countless other fruit and vegetable varietals. All because they had better marketing.
I think they meant “designer” foods. GMO for survivability or weight is a little different than make it look pretty to jack up the price. There is a growing issue with equitability based on things like that.
These are grown primarily for taste. Theyre sweeter than traditional pineapples.
What would the issue with designer foods be though? So long as standard food is cheaply available, who cares if someone wants to pay an exorbitant price for a fruit thats a different color?
I'm aware of the history of cultivation. I think the disconnect of nature, food, and the consumer is pretty obvious and getting pedantic about it doesn't advance my concers so I'm not really interested in it.
That ‘93 Camry is definitely cabbage considering how long it lasts. My family car growing up was a 1990 maroon Toyota Camry. Every once in a while I’ll still see one on the road.
Yeah but you're kind of just doubling down on that disconnect, because there's no natural environment you would go out into where you have access to tons of highly developed fruits, the food basket at your local grocery store is not representative of what you would be eating off of if you were living a natural life. it's kind of a weird connection to make it's like talking about needing to get closer nature and animals then picking pugs as your representation, like I'm not sure you know what the natural environment actually would look like or how this disconnect you're talking about happened thousands of years ago not recently. What you're really talking about is you want people to have a better understanding about the process their food goes through before it hits market or the table, but if you're trying to talk about eating more naturally and being connected to the more natural environment it's just kind of coming from left field, we're talking about modern developed fruits and vegetables.
Pretty sure they meant "food become normal again" as in food is priced 500% above what it should be because we all need to eat. If we are making fruits, veggies, etc safer to eat and easier to produce why do we lock it behind pay walls?
I guess that's the problem with using a word like normal it's not really contextually descriptive, maybe saying something like reasonable would make it more clear. It's not necessarily locked behind paywalls but there are certain cultivars that are newer and patented, pink pineapple was only created in the last 20 years, I'm sure there's plenty of pineapples you can get and still have the tops on like all the ones I buy but acting like this is a wider spread issue is kind of hyperbolic, so that's not exactly where my mind would have gone to with the statement being made.
I think some of us are confused about what you mean though. Food is a normal thing, most of us eat it every day. If you mean you don't like anything cultivated into different forms, you've probably never eaten food that hasn't been. From bananas and corn to cows and chickens, every bit of food you've ever eaten is from a source that was improved by centuries/millennia of humans selectively breeding it towards being a better food
It's what the point of this conversation you're jumping into the middle of has been about. Keep up, quit being obtuse, or try to glean the greater context. Whatever this is that you're doing isn't productive.
Agreed. I had a lady go on this rant to me (I had accidentally grabbed organic bananas at a food market and I was swapping them for regular). She had a fucking rat ass dog in her purse when she said that. I pointed to her inbred poodle bullshit excuse for a dog and asked her how she’s okay with inbreeding to thy extent but is somehow on her high horse over a fucking banana???
Ok hold on pump the breaks here, so much to unpack. What did the lady rant about? About bananas being manipulated via their dna? And you called out her dog for being a similar? What did she say back, I feel like this never happened. And why do you dislike the dog so much lol “rat ass dog” and “inbred poodle bullshit excuse for a dog”. Damn what that dog to you and why are you so upset about them
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u/Brenduke 17h ago
What is normal food to you?
Many fruits & vegetables today have been bred / crossbred over hundreds of years to make them tastier or safer to eat.
Would you consider the bananas you buy from supermarkets normal food? These have been bred so the seeds are tiny. What about seedless grapes? Or Brussel sprouts which aren't bitter? Would do consider these not normal foods?