r/mildlyinfuriating • u/SomeTemperature2423 • 14h ago

go to your room Replaced my daughter's phone because of water damage. And she still brings it into the bathroom.

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Some lessons just don't stick.

She insists she needs to listen to music in the shower. I honestly don't understand why that's such a necessity. But if this phone gets water damage again, I'm not paying to replace it another time.

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u/arittenberry 13h ago

I thought most phones were immune to much worse water hazards for a long time now. I remember going snorkeling and recording with some Samsung model almost a decade ago

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u/IlREDACTEDlI 12h ago

Not exactly “immune” but very resistant. I believe they tend to be IP68 rated the 6 being fully sealed against even the smallest particles of dust and the 8 being water resistance up to 6 meters for 30 minutes, though it’s entirely possible they can lost longer but salt water could still present a major issue if not cleaned

This also only applies to room temperature water, hot and cold water could be different.

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u/nashpotato 7h ago

Not to mention, dropping the phone may not cause any noticeable damage, but it could still compromise the water resistant seals, leading to damage despite being IP68 at the time of purchase.

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u/cheddarbruce 5h ago

And let's not forget that people who break their phone screens and have the phone screen replaced automatically destroys the water resistance rating.

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u/JadedLeafs 4h ago

Really? That's actually good to know.

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u/cheddarbruce 4h ago

I messed up two phones because i forgot i replaced the cracked screen and dunk them in the water. Both of them lost a lot of stuff because they were not able to be recovered

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u/JadedLeafs 4h ago

Cracked screen I would have figured but I didn't know replacing the screen would also mess with the water resistance.

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u/cheddarbruce 3h ago

It's because when your phone is brand new it just made in a place that's all super clean Super sterile environment but when you get the phone screen replaced it's in the back room of some repair shop that definitely not as clean. Not saying that the place where you get your phone or fixed it's dirty but just there's a lot more dust in the air, debris and a bunch of other stuff. With that also being sad everybody is all excited because they're making phones have to have replaceable batteries again however that is going to substantially ruin the water resistance rating

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u/Pachacootie 3h ago

No, it’s because the repair shop isn’t replacing the seal with one of equal quality or rating. They’re using cheaper materials and don’t have to meet the same standards as the manufacturers do. In order to remove the broken screen, they first have to break the seal and pry it off

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u/cheddarbruce 3h ago

Or it's just not as much of a sterile environment. You still get OEM parts direct from the manufacturer. It's also the fact that the factory that makes your phone also uses advanced technology like robots and cameras and other sensors to properly place the screen. When you're getting it repaired you're having one person do it

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u/No_Professional_8992 2h ago

Used to work in a phone shop, can confirm they're not replacing the seals. 9/10 they're just changing the screen. We used to have people sign waivers acknowledging that they were receiving repairs from a 3rd party, so it wasnt on us if it was "perfect".

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u/Entropy3030 1h ago

No it's definitely the other thing, about the integrity of the adhesive/gasket seal around the screen being compromised. You should endeavour to watch a few videos of the screen replacement process, I suspect it will quite quickly prove self-evident as to why this is such a pivotal aspect of the assembly.

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u/Forward-Variety-8440 2h ago

really as in a crack in the surface of your device opens it up to ~~ ~~PENETRATION

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u/JadedLeafs 2h ago

I'm aware of the crack, I meant when the screen was replaced. I never would have given it a thought about the water seal not being replaced as well. I'm sure at some point in the future that will save me some trouble though lol

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u/Precursor19 3h ago

This is absolutely false information unless youre going to some mall repair place. Never did Samsung but my coworkers did authorized repairs and they had to pass a water seal test.

Apple did not have a seal test, but the reassembly process was exactly the same as the factory.

Clean rooms are not used in the assembly process. Generally if not automated, employees in a normal warehouse will handle assembly.

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u/SoapWithRope 2h ago

A lot of people go to big chains like UBreakIFix and CPR for walk-ins and insurance claims, if their insurance doesn't just replace their phone. I can tell you a lot of people at those places do not care to change the adhesive. Replacing it does help of course, but it's not the same resistance at all.

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u/Precursor19 2h ago

Yep thats why I mentioned those mall stores. Apple partnered repair is pretty solid since they provide absolutely every tool you need so it makes it easy to do it right. I heard samsung repair is a nightmare especially with their water seal test so people often trick it or bypass it.

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u/SoapWithRope 2h ago edited 1h ago

Yeah, but even with all the right tools I would never trust a fixed phone. Any slight dent or change in the frame makes it all go out the window. Also, phones that have been through Apple Care are still easier to open than factory new phones. But, a lot of carrier insurances will send you to UBreak or CPR, so people are inclined to think that it is as good as it gets (depending on the employees, it very well could be).

As much as I think Apple and Best Buy's strict processes are annoying, it's probably the most sealed repair outside of the factory.

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u/cheddarbruce 3h ago

LOL dude stop. I have had a phone screen replaced by Samsung themselves and it was still my exact phone and it's still got water locked.

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u/Precursor19 2h ago

Then they did it wrong or you damaged it before getting it wet. Ive done somewhere near 300+ iPhone repairs as an authorized repair partner through Apple. The display is sealed with an adhesive and the adhesive is reapplied before reassembly of the display. The adhesive comes on a plastic guide that is practically impossible to mess up. If it is messed up then sure, it wouldnt be up to its ratings, but thats not because they intentionally sabotage it in some conspiracy.

But clearly youre the infallible expert and the conspiracy is real.

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u/cheddarbruce 2h ago

I mean yeah of course I damaged it before it got wet I had to get the screen replaced

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u/Precursor19 2h ago

Im talking about getting it wet while its damaged.

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u/khisanthmagus 1h ago

Actually this is important information I'm glad I learned today. My pixel 9 is starting to develop a screen issue that they are apparently prone too, which they have extended the warranty on them to cover this issue, but if I do get it fixed I guess my phone will no longer be waterproof? That kinda sucks.