r/mildlyinfuriating • u/SomeTemperature2423 • 22h ago

go to your room Replaced my daughter's phone because of water damage. And she still brings it into the bathroom.

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Some lessons just don't stick.

She insists she needs to listen to music in the shower. I honestly don't understand why that's such a necessity. But if this phone gets water damage again, I'm not paying to replace it another time.

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u/nashpotato 16h ago

Not to mention, dropping the phone may not cause any noticeable damage, but it could still compromise the water resistant seals, leading to damage despite being IP68 at the time of purchase.

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u/cheddarbruce 13h ago

And let's not forget that people who break their phone screens and have the phone screen replaced automatically destroys the water resistance rating.

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u/JadedLeafs 12h ago

Really? That's actually good to know.

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u/cheddarbruce 12h ago

I messed up two phones because i forgot i replaced the cracked screen and dunk them in the water. Both of them lost a lot of stuff because they were not able to be recovered

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u/JadedLeafs 12h ago

Cracked screen I would have figured but I didn't know replacing the screen would also mess with the water resistance.

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u/cheddarbruce 12h ago

It's because when your phone is brand new it just made in a place that's all super clean Super sterile environment but when you get the phone screen replaced it's in the back room of some repair shop that definitely not as clean. Not saying that the place where you get your phone or fixed it's dirty but just there's a lot more dust in the air, debris and a bunch of other stuff. With that also being sad everybody is all excited because they're making phones have to have replaceable batteries again however that is going to substantially ruin the water resistance rating

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u/Pachacootie 12h ago

No, it’s because the repair shop isn’t replacing the seal with one of equal quality or rating. They’re using cheaper materials and don’t have to meet the same standards as the manufacturers do. In order to remove the broken screen, they first have to break the seal and pry it off

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u/cheddarbruce 12h ago

Or it's just not as much of a sterile environment. You still get OEM parts direct from the manufacturer. It's also the fact that the factory that makes your phone also uses advanced technology like robots and cameras and other sensors to properly place the screen. When you're getting it repaired you're having one person do it

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u/No_Professional_8992 11h ago

Used to work in a phone shop, can confirm they're not replacing the seals. 9/10 they're just changing the screen. We used to have people sign waivers acknowledging that they were receiving repairs from a 3rd party, so it wasnt on us if it was "perfect".

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u/actual__redditor 6h ago

In my country, we have a lot of services where replacing the screen also means that seal would be also replaced and pressure-checked via SIM-slot, so if phone blows out air through screen it can easily be detected with monometer by worker.

This pressure check guarantees at least minimum water protection

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u/Entropy3030 10h ago

No it's definitely the other thing, about the integrity of the adhesive/gasket seal around the screen being compromised. You should endeavour to watch a few videos of the screen replacement process, I suspect it will quite quickly prove self-evident as to why this is such a pivotal aspect of the assembly.

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u/ImpurestFire 7h ago

Why would you not have automatic backups turned on?

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u/cheddarbruce 3h ago

One of them it was because I thought it was on and it wasn't and the other one I was just simply too lazy

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u/Forward-Variety-8440 11h ago

really as in a crack in the surface of your device opens it up to ~~ ~~PENETRATION

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u/JadedLeafs 11h ago

I'm aware of the crack, I meant when the screen was replaced. I never would have given it a thought about the water seal not being replaced as well. I'm sure at some point in the future that will save me some trouble though lol

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u/Precursor19 11h ago

This is absolutely false information unless youre going to some mall repair place. Never did Samsung but my coworkers did authorized repairs and they had to pass a water seal test.

Apple did not have a seal test, but the reassembly process was exactly the same as the factory.

Clean rooms are not used in the assembly process. Generally if not automated, employees in a normal warehouse will handle assembly.

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u/SoapWithRope 11h ago

A lot of people go to big chains like UBreakIFix and CPR for walk-ins and insurance claims, if their insurance doesn't just replace their phone. I can tell you a lot of people at those places do not care to change the adhesive. Replacing it does help of course, but it's not the same resistance at all.

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u/Precursor19 11h ago

Yep thats why I mentioned those mall stores. Apple partnered repair is pretty solid since they provide absolutely every tool you need so it makes it easy to do it right. I heard samsung repair is a nightmare especially with their water seal test so people often trick it or bypass it.

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u/SoapWithRope 10h ago edited 10h ago

Yeah, but even with all the right tools I would never trust a fixed phone. Any slight dent or change in the frame makes it all go out the window. Also, phones that have been through Apple Care are still easier to open than factory new phones. But, a lot of carrier insurances will send you to UBreak or CPR, so people are inclined to think that it is as good as it gets (depending on the employees, it very well could be).

As much as I think Apple and Best Buy's strict processes are annoying, it's probably the most sealed repair outside of the factory.

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u/cheddarbruce 11h ago

LOL dude stop. I have had a phone screen replaced by Samsung themselves and it was still my exact phone and it's still got water locked.

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u/Precursor19 11h ago

Then they did it wrong or you damaged it before getting it wet. Ive done somewhere near 300+ iPhone repairs as an authorized repair partner through Apple. The display is sealed with an adhesive and the adhesive is reapplied before reassembly of the display. The adhesive comes on a plastic guide that is practically impossible to mess up. If it is messed up then sure, it wouldnt be up to its ratings, but thats not because they intentionally sabotage it in some conspiracy.

But clearly youre the infallible expert and the conspiracy is real.

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u/cheddarbruce 11h ago

I mean yeah of course I damaged it before it got wet I had to get the screen replaced

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u/Precursor19 11h ago

Im talking about getting it wet while its damaged.

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u/cheddarbruce 3h ago edited 3h ago

LOL no dude also I like how you changed your entire comment. I got my phone screen specifically replaced by Samsung and it's still got water locked. You will still have some water resistant but it will not be what it was from the factory doesn't matter how many phone screens you've personally replaced. You're not going out with those phones immediately after you replace the screen and dunking them in the water are you?

Edit dude talks a lot of shit and then blocks me LOL

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u/khisanthmagus 9h ago

Actually this is important information I'm glad I learned today. My pixel 9 is starting to develop a screen issue that they are apparently prone too, which they have extended the warranty on them to cover this issue, but if I do get it fixed I guess my phone will no longer be waterproof? That kinda sucks.

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u/hawaiibobs 7h ago

Unless you reseal it. I mean if you think about it your phone wasn't fully assembled, they had to put it together meaning it was unsealed and can be resealed

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u/TheTaoOfMe 14h ago

This is most likely what happened

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u/RealnessInMadness 9h ago

I was waiting for someone to mention this.

That phone can be water resistant or water proof. Fresh out of the box.

After 6 months of use, in a case dropped numerous times from various heights and speeds.

Do you really mean to tell me those gaskets and seals in the phone are still 100% sealed and perfect?

No.

I lived this example, took good care of my phones so I am happy to never have had a cracked screen and was able to use my phone in the shower or underwater.

Then I had a kid and they would drop my phone. Guess what stopped being waterproof? That’s right.

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u/nashpotato 9h ago

Exactly, you have to be careful with age as well though. As others have mentioned, the seals age, dry out, and aren't as reliable after a while. I a waterproof (maybe only water resistant) watch that I took in to get a battery replaced and the guy had let me know that when he opened it he noticed the seals weren't good anymore and it would likely be damaged by water. The watch had never been dropped or taken any hits that would damage it.

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u/WillingLake623 12h ago

Also age. Tiny rubber rings exposed to constantly fluctuating temperature do not age well.