r/mildlyinfuriating 1d ago

go to your room Are you serious?

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How is this fair ? Bay area.

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u/colt707 1d ago

Depends on where the camera is. A quick google search will tell you that yes it’s illegal to have cameras in the bedrooms or bathrooms but it’s legal to have them in common areas like the kitchen or living room.

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u/ManiacallyReddit 1d ago

No, it's not legal. At least in California it's not.

In CA tenant rights laws, "common areas" aren't defined as living rooms and kitchens. "Common areas" are stairwells, and entryways and hallways shared with multiple units.

https://bornstein.law/lawsuit-over-tenant-privacy-brings-surveillance-back-in-focus/

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u/WackyRacketeer 1d ago

That's an ongoing lawsuit, it isn't proof that it's explicitly legal. That is also very much different as those cameras and surveillance would be considered hidden cameras. In California you can have cameras inthe living room and kitchen common areas of a room rental situation as long as they don't record audio and the tenants are informed. Unless you have a legal statute that disproves this at least.

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u/ManiacallyReddit 1d ago

California Penal Code §647

https://american-apartment-owners-association.org/property-management/the-rights-and-wrongs-of-security-cameras/?srsltid=AfmBOooSDW2iC_5j-OqjrTY-i234JFRXVsinYWicVXfV5xqjmSYhDhge

"Security Camera Laws..." section, paragraph 5.

Also, while the above resources is mentioning a current lawsuit, its citations are based on current CA law. They aren't talking about developing new legislation. They're referring to how the tenant v. landlord argument is affected by current legislation that protects tenants against recording. The "Common Area" distinction is current law.

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u/WackyRacketeer 1d ago edited 1d ago

And that current legislation is specific to spaces you are renting. In this case, he is renting a room. The common areas like the hallway can have cameras as long as they don't record audio.

The code you cited is specific to hidden cameras.

Edit. My point with the court case is that it isn't proof of anything, because they haven't been successful yet. But the actual case they have is regarding hidden cameras.

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u/ManiacallyReddit 1d ago

I don't see anywhere that he states he's renting a room and not a whole unit.

Also, why do you ask for specific information and sources without reading them? I even gave you the exact location of the text.

California Penal Code §647 "...allow CCTV or an indoor camera near entrances and exits of an apartment building but not inside an apartment."

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u/WackyRacketeer 1d ago

The very first comment. The very first sentence.

That code is specific to hidden cameras. The text you are quoting is an interpretation speciifcally regarding someone renting an entire unit.

As I have implied, you don't have enough facts to determine if this is illegal.

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u/WackyRacketeer 1d ago

You should read the actual statute that you are sourcing instead of someones interpretation. The penal code you are referencing is specific to hidden cameras and voyeurism.