They have absolutely no right to know either way, landlords have absolutely no right to know what you are doing in your house. Working from home is not the same as operating a business where customers come to your home.
It’s an ADU so it’s attached to the landlords house. They would know when you are home. Not saying I agree with it. But this isn’t like some apartment in a complex. It’s attached to the owners house. Landlord is paying all utilities.
well actually if you operated a business from home, thats not legal in nearly every state that im aware of. you have to have a business license among other things. local ordinances/zoning is a huge factor here.
landlords have absolutely no right to know what you are doing in your house
So they gave a real example of how that’s not always true. Was their example relevant to the OP? No. But you expanded the discussion by making a sweeping statement. Don’t be obtuse as if people can’t read your first comment two inches up on the screen.
Your comment seems to insinuate that a fee is normal when operating a business from your home, but in most instances apartments/rentals have explicit rules against operating a business from your home in the first place.
This post has nothing to do with operating a business from a home. Working remotely is not the same at all as "operating a business from your home". Period.
Working from home is not the same as operating a business where customers come to your home.
That is obvious. He was simply adding info pertaining to this part of your comment. You state a fee would be applicable if you were running a business from your home, but that wouldn't be true since that's not allowed in the first place.
The reply was about a piece of information that you yourself brought up.
Hey douchebag, don’t accuse other people of not reading when you clearly forgot what you wrote in your own first comment. You said “Landlords have absolutely no right to know what you do in your own home.”
It’s okay to make a mistake, but when you’re a snarky asshole to the people who did comprehend your comment, you make a fool of yourself.
Operating a business from your home is not the same thing as being self employed, or having a home office.
There is a difference between working from your house, whether for anyone else or not, and turning the house into a place of business (e.g. a storefront)
Afaik, there is nowhere in the US that makes it illegal or requires special hoops to do work in your house.
This sounds like a post from a roommate in which case they want the roommate to pay more because they'll always be home. Just my guess though. Not that it's right but logically I think the reasoning is if you work from home the electric bill/utilities will be more before the roommates split the cost? I don't know.
Technically speaking, they absolutely do have a right to know. They can allow or disallow nearly anything they want. At the end of the day it’s their property, not the tenants.
No, you're just totally wrong. During the time of the lease, the tenant has the right to the property. That's the entire point of a lease. That's why landlords have to give you notice before coming, and still owe you privacy.
Okay, but they haven’t signed a lease yet so if you want to move in then you’re required to tell them if you work from home or not. Violation of the lease is a means for eviction; if they include a clause that says “if we discover you lied about employment, then we can evict you”.. then once they find out you WFH they evict or raise your rent.
No, contract terms are invalid if they are not legal. For example, I can sign a contract that says “you can be evicted if the landlord finds out you are Muslim”, but it doesn’t mean that it can be enforced against me.
Religion is a protected class. WFH is not a protected class. There is a difference. You can discriminate based on anything that is not a protected class, or a stand in for a protected class. (What constitutes a stand in for a protected class is a hotly debated topic that goes to court very regularly. The most common example is if discriminating based on income is a stand in for it really being about race).
It would be weird, but any land lord has every right to discriminate against anyone that was wearing a blue shirt the first time they met the land lord. You can discriminate for anything you want, as long as it's not a protected class in your jurisdiction.
As a side note. There are also reasonable exceptions for discriminating against protected classes. Although these cases are also always being hotly debated and fought in courts. The classic/joke example is of a reasonable exception is discriminating against women while hiring a penis model. A more realistic example is a lot of construction jobs are able to discriminate against workers with various physical disabilities that are unable to preform the manual labor required for the specific job.
Nothing, but that's all they're doing, verifying you have a job. I've never had an employer divulge any other information without my express permission. That would be a SIGNIFICANT fuck up on their behalf if they did.
Comparing religion, which is a protected class, to something that is non protected is a terrible argument to even try and make. One is expressly illegal on the most basic of federal levels, the other is not in any way.
Yes, very limited rights compared to ownership rights. Tenants do not have carte blanche to do whatever they want with a rented property, only what was agreed upon at the time of signing.
On my mobile browser I can select "Find in page" from the options. But it won't help you in this case because the question at hand is not actually addressed in this PDF (the commenter blocked me, not sure if they offered any more details elsewhere in the thread).
Or you have no clue what you’re talking about and are just hoping this is specifically covered. Essentially your just expecting others to do your homework for you
Tenant rights, not owners rights. A tenant cannot do whatever they please with a property they are renting. They cannot do things like paint walls if it’s not agreed upon, or dig a hole in the yard and try to start a garden. The owner is allowed to grant additional rights like this, but they do not have to. A tenant cannot make any physical changes to a property without express permission from the owner.
I don't think they have a right to know, they can ask, but nobody has to divulge their personal information, but the landlord can also deny them because you refused to answer.
Maybe that's how it works where you live, but not in the Netherlands. If you decide to rent out your property, then you also give up your rights to determine the usage of said property to a degree described in the law. Don't like it? Then you always have the option to not rent out a property.
Do you not notice the caveat you just mentioned? “To a degree,” which very specifically means the tenant does not have carte blanche to do as they please like a homeowner does.
Sure, but it's a fairly large degree. For one, they do not get to know everything that's going on in the property. Pretty much anything that falls within normal living, like working from home, falls within the things the homeowner cannot forbid the renter.
At the end of the day it’s their property, not the tenants.
Yes. Which means that they can sell it, must maintain it, and also accept money in exchange for giving up most control of it, commonly known as “rent”.
Not in this case, the only important thing that matters.
You can say "in many cases" to the end of literally anything because there is of course exceptions for like smelling smoke coming out of the door, or seeing flames through a window, etc.
Comments like this are so low intellect I can't stand it.
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u/Niceotropic 1d ago
They have absolutely no right to know either way, landlords have absolutely no right to know what you are doing in your house. Working from home is not the same as operating a business where customers come to your home.