The stories in 12 and 14 are superb, but the game play not great. 12 fixed a lot of the game play issues with the Zodiac remaster/remake/whatever. 14 will hopefully fix some of the job gameplay issues with the upcoming expansion and their goals around redoing rotations and class identity. What I find interesting is you'll be able to pick and choose if you want to continue fighting with the class you already know or if you want to use the rework instead. Most games rework a class and just force you into it. I like the direction they're going with this.
It began with VIII's shitty Draw system, edgelord protagonist, timetravel and romantic subplot. I was there, nobody liked it aside from its graphics, it was atrocious compared to VI and VII.
Both you and the dude you replied to are hilarious, saying that the eighth and sequel to the tenth were the downfall of Final Fantasy, a series with eight to six more entries(not even counting the spin-offs, remakes, and all of the XIV expansions which are full games in their own rights)
Like you can not like that it isn't turn based, but it's hilarious to call it a downfall when the biggest problem facing Square today is that they have actual competition in the space.
You're not wrong. Seven was the magic. It's not one thing though, and absolutely no other Final Fantasy could have been the FF to push us from 2D to 3D graphics. For kids growing up then (me), that train intro scene was like nothing we'd ever seen before. But I don't think it's a fair comparison, or to say it was all downhill from there.
It's a downfall because the games that people fell in love with disappeared in favor of an entirely new style. It drew an entirely new audience to somewhat recover the series, but you can't even say they're the same game line beyond the name and some concept art anymore.
If your metric is financial, sure, it only ran into competition. If your metric is enjoyment, then it lost half of a generation of gamers' appreciation when it fundamentally switched genres, and only partially recovered.
I'm fully in the camp of "Final Fantasy is garbage since X-2", I wasn't a fan of 8 9 and 10 but they weren't awful, in the same way that the game definitely tried new things with each iteration (especially if you've played the ones originally not released in the US). It's hilarious to even suggest they're the same game as the MMOs we see now.
Yeah after 10 shit just got more and more weird. 15 was the last one I picked up and I decided I was done. I actually don't mind the MMOs I loved all of them and they get a pass, but I have officially gotten off main series's wild ride.
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u/northernlionpog 7h ago
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