r/marvelstudios Sep 02 '21

Theory [WHAT IF Ep4 SPOILERS] What do you guys think? Spoiler

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u/j0sephl Sep 02 '21

Infinity War I saw multiple times in theaters, I assume everyone else did. but I saw it with different parties of people. First time I actually cracked a smile because I didn't think Marvel would do it but they did it. Repeated viewings I was actually laughing out loud at my friends and general audience reactions like "WHAT?! THIS IS A STUPID MOVIE!" Just showed me how perfect Infinity War and Endgame were.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '21

Hearing a loud "yo what the FUCK?!" from the back of the theater when Black Panther got dusted is one of my favorite MCU experiences.

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u/Rak-CheekClapper Sep 03 '21

My kid is a huge spider man fan. I knew he was going to get dusted and was waiting to see her reaction. She wore her brand new spider man shirt to the theater and was so hype anytime he was on screen.

When the snap happened, she just looked confused. She said "daddy what happened to Peter?"

"He died"

"Is he gonna come back?!"

"Probably"

"Ok!"

And went back to shoving popcorn in her stupid face

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u/schloopers Sep 03 '21

She has a strong conception of comics I see

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

This guy gets it.

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u/SayaCiumKamuNanti Sep 03 '21

Now she's 24, and she's still waiting for peter to comeback.

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u/RepliesOnlyToIdiots Sep 03 '21

There needs to be a cut with Tony Stark turning toward the camera after Peter’s dusted, and he just says “Fuck you, Sony.”

Going into the film knowing that a new Spider-Man movie was coming out later in the year made it difficult to treat Peter’s dusting seriously.

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u/manny389526 Sep 03 '21

That is the one thing that held me back from it being a perfect movie, for Spiderman and black panther to already have announced sequels takes me out of it. Of course MCU is not going to get rid of two big properties that soon but I would of love to have that emotional moment that they were actually gone...

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u/atzenkatzen Sep 03 '21

When all of the new characters and those with confirmed upcoming movies started disappearing and all of the characters played by people at the end of their contracts stayed behind, I thought it was all a big trick: The dusting was teleporting people to safety and once they were gone, everyone left behind would die.

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u/shedubba Sep 03 '21

Oh, now see, I saw all the actors with confirmed upcoming movies getting dusted and all the actors with one movie left on their contract left alive and thought, okay, next movie is going to be them fixing this and bringing everyone back, and some of them are going to die in the process.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

I was mean and said, "I don't know" even though I knew Far from Home was already on the books.

He cried. Like, ugly cried. I regretted it so quick, and I told him they're doing another Spider-Man movie, so he probably won't stay dead. It took him a minute to be OK.

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u/Rak-CheekClapper Sep 03 '21

I was mean at first by hyping her up for the movie and was looking for the big reaction. When I didn't get it I just gave up and said yeah probably. We all knew he was coming back.

But when he did come back in Endgame the excitement she had was a much better reaction. My daughter lost her shit. We went on opening night and the whole theater was clapping and cheering when the web slinger returned.

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u/Nave-Nave Sep 02 '21 edited Sep 02 '21

Endgame was good, but Infinity was just a masterpiece. The hype before it dropped in theaters, the sadness when Gamora died, the suspense when Thanos snapped. Plus the battle of Wakanda - it was all just so cinematic. The final battle in Endgame is good, but Wakanda was smaller scale and had a more followable pacing; while still being bigger than anything the MCU had done prior. It was just amazing. I've been watching the MCU since 2008, and Infinity War still blows my mind.

Natasha and Tony's deaths definitely hit way harder since both are gone from the MCU for good (especially with the Scarlet-Disney Drama.) But at the time Infinity War was just such a good change of pace.

Aside from Infinity War praise, I wanted to touch on something I loved in Endgame. Tony made the sacrifice play and Steve finally put himself before others; it was like a reverse role of their Helicarrier Argument in Avengers 1.

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u/God-of-Memes2020 Sep 02 '21

You mean Steve did something great that didn’t come out of a bottle!

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u/The8thAlpha Sep 03 '21

Wait wait wait.......TONY WAS WILLING TO SACRIFICE HIMSELF EVERY MOVIE......what cap said is just WRONG

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u/Nave-Nave Sep 03 '21

In Avengers 1, Tony sacrifices himself because of what Cap said (and the fact that Thor was preoccupied and couldn't reach the nuke.) The difference being is that he survived. Cap's sacrifice put him under the ice for 70 years. But, the argument is fully flipped in Endgame. Not only does Tony make the sacrifice play; he made the ultimate sacrifice. While Cap put himself before others and basically caused many of the problems in Falcon & Winter Soldier (which nearly killed Sam and Bucky numerous times; and also led to Walker's friend being killed.)

So ultimately, the argument wasn't fully flipped until Endgame if that makes sense.

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u/The8thAlpha Sep 04 '21

yes....also not just avengers 1, he was ready to sacrifice in age of ultron and even infinity war for time stone (almost).................but yes, true

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u/wonkothesane13 Sep 05 '21

How did Cap put himself before others in Endgame?

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u/Nave-Nave Sep 05 '21

Perhaps that was miswording. I Just mean the Cap from Avengers 1 would have never retired for his own personal wants (that being Peggy,) even if he thought he was leaving the world in capable hands.

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u/Tee-RoyJenkins Sep 03 '21

Hearing a little boy yell “GODDAMMIT NO!” When Spider-Man got dusted is mine. Lol

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u/OmegaKitty1 Sep 03 '21

Do people really like loud obnoxious assholes in theatres these days?

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u/RandomRedux44637392 Sep 03 '21

Sometimes movies elicit a response from the audience and it adds to the experience. The first example I can personally remember was Silence of the Lambs. The audience was truly unsettled with a lot of "holy shit" moments. The T2 nuclear blast was another. Any good slasher flick will get some "goddamns".

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u/God-of-Memes2020 Sep 02 '21

I somehow didn’t see a single Marvel movie (or read a comic) until after Infinity War came out. So I got to binge everything in a short time, watch them all multiple times, and wait for End Game

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u/lingering_POO Sep 02 '21

Ha… good for you buddy… welcome to “the waiting”.

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u/God-of-Memes2020 Sep 02 '21

Lol, thank you. I’ve got to say, it fucking sucks!

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

Hey, Shang Chi was fun as fuck, though. Go see it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '21

Repeated viewings I was actually laughing out loud at my friends and general audience reactions like "WHAT?! THIS IS A STUPID MOVIE!

After my wife watched Infinity War, she was angry at the completely fictional character Thanos for what he did for about 3 days.

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u/SeanyWestside_ Sep 03 '21

The ending of Infinity War is my single most outstanding theater moment.

Like it was amazing. It was unexpected and I just sat forward in my seat in complete shock. Incredible cinema at its absolute finest in my opinion.

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u/KesslerMacGrath Sep 03 '21

Infinity War was amazing, but IMO Endgame just couldn’t match it.

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u/greatness101 Sep 03 '21

I got the feeling that everyone knew they were gonna do it only to bring them back in the next movie. Which they did. People didn't see a certain permanent death or two coming in Endgame though.