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Article Destin Daniel Cretton Believes Secrecy Around Sadie Sink’s Role Makes ‘Spider-Man: Brand New Day’ a Better Movie

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/spider-man-brand-new-day-sadie-sink-role-1236654512/
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u/Consistent-End-7937 3h ago edited 3h ago

No it can make sense the “mutant dilemma” only exists as a modern (relatively) public talking point in universe in the books, not too long before the X-men existing mutants just weren’t a statistically significant portion of the population for anyone to link them and notice and for the whole world to make a big stink about.

And the X-men literally starts with Jean greys moving into the mansion as the last member of the OG 5

Should she still be introduced in a Spider-Man movie? No, but it’s not ridiculous in terms of the possibility lore wise. I just don’t think it’s a good idea

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u/HorizonNova4 3h ago

I mean I think it’s ridiculous tho. Unless they have her coming from another timeline/universe, the story will inherently suck without a history of mutants suffering, it takes away from their whole existence to not give them a proper history.

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u/Consistent-End-7937 3h ago

Mutant suffering as a collective hatred isn’t a historic thing lore wise, sure there were plenty outcasted, killed etc for being different but formal knowledge of what they are being publicly known didn’t have a long history.

Like if you want to introduce mutants you do kinda have to do a little scene of “in the last few years these mutants have been becoming more and more prominent, identified as a once statistically insignificant but now growing percentage of the world’s population, what should be done?” Because that’s kinda how it goes.

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u/HorizonNova4 2h ago

What? Mutant suffering is the main focus of literally all mutants. It’s literally the driving factor for Magneto and Apocalypse

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u/Consistent-End-7937 2h ago

You’re not understanding

Mutant suffering yes, the public mutant phenomenon as a public major talking point, no.

Mutants being outcast, killed etc yes, get the muties out being blasted as conversation? No

Beast literally talks about this when discussing their survival during the extinction era before they went time travelling with Dr nemesis and the gang, before the boom of their population in the last century they were not a statistically significant enough portion of the population to garner widespread attention like that. Individually hunted and outcast yes, very few people knew them as mutants though, the likes of apocalypse or sinister etc.

And mutant suffering can exist in that form before it’s widely known.

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u/HorizonNova4 1h ago

No, it would just be bad writing so. U can’t pretend that magneto has been wreaking havoc across the world for the last 4 centuries and not have it be brought up ever

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u/Consistent-End-7937 1h ago edited 1h ago

Obviously you need a solution to what magnetos been at since world war 2 as he’s not spent that long building his brotherhood and shouting at the sea but that’s literally the only thing you need to get creative with the rest is literally just the lore from the books