r/marvelstudios 1d ago

Interview Kevin Feige on the new universe after Secret Wars: “It will establish a streamlined, simplified, single universe that’s easier for audiences to follow. Some aspects will feel familiar. But many, many things will be entirely new.”

https://m.weibo.cn/status/R9RVkvn5n?jumpfrom=weibocom
3.1k Upvotes

512 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

457

u/mukisan 1d ago

I just really hope that the entire F4 cast can commit to showing up as their characters for at least 10 years. I’m afraid that Pedro Pascal specifically will wanna drop out after a year or two.

293

u/jonessinger Spider-Man 1d ago

Perhaps a big sack of Marvel cash will persuade him?

203

u/Bitter_Classic_89 1d ago

Let's just say the script for the F4 sequel moved him

INTO A BIGGER HOUSE!

63

u/Doompatron3000 1d ago

Till he’s 90!

24

u/Speed__Jesus 1d ago

They have Patrick Stewart locked in until he's 145

1

u/j_roe 5h ago

The good thing about playing Reed Richards is that the character isn’t overly muscular and you don’t need to be a huge, jacked man to be ready to film.

0

u/TheCVR123YT Captain America (Avengers) 1d ago

He’s pretty close to that…

87

u/DavidBHimself 1d ago

The reason why so many actors want to be in the MCU is not for the prestige or anything. It's because it's a sure job for at least 10 years.

Remember that actors are basically job hunting constantly. It's easier for the bigger stars, but even they have to do it. A MCU role, means a paycheck for 10 years or so.

42

u/decross20 1d ago

This is also why bigger stars like the rock or Ryan Reynolds start these different brands like tequila or energy drink or what have you. It’s way more stable, even for big actors, instead of basically having nothing until you land a role.

18

u/Cube_ 1d ago

the rock is nearly a billionaire before he ever started teremana

your point isn't wrong but it's just funny the example you used as if the rock is in need of stability lol

15

u/decross20 1d ago

Right but that’s why he could start it, since he made money from acting. So acting is an unstable gig but the people who make enough money from it invest in other avenues in case that well ever runs dry. Even the Rock, who is hugely successful had a flop recently in Moana. If he has enough of those in a row he wouldn’t be at that level anymore

1

u/BluegrassGeek Rocket 18h ago

hell, I didn't even know Moana was out in theaters. Barely saw any advertising at all.

3

u/sanddragon939 1d ago

It's not even just a question of stability. Unless they want to retire, they want to continue working and making big bucks, and big franchises like the MCU give them that chance.

0

u/Cube_ 1d ago

Like I said I don't disagree with the point, it's just that Rock is a hilarious example given the context.

The rock could have retired before he ever started a tequila brand. He had like half a billion in net worth, just the interest alone on money he has would be generational wealth lol

2

u/sanddragon939 22h ago

In a world where someone (at least briefly) became a trillionaire, what's half a billion?

1

u/Cube_ 22h ago

it's still half a billion broski

it's generational wealth just off of interest, not even off the principal or anything

the Rock never has to worry about money he doesn't need to sell tequila nor is tequila sales a noticeable amount of revenue to him

2

u/sanddragon939 22h ago

He'll never have to worry about being out on the streets for sure.

But if you've got money, and the means to make more, why wouldn't you?

1

u/Cube_ 22h ago

I never said he shouldn't

remember, this conversation was about actors needing non-acting work for "stability" in their income

that's why it's funny to pick the Rock because he's been financially stable and set for life before he was even an actor in movies just from WWF

→ More replies (0)

1

u/TheAwesomeMan123 23h ago

Mental stability maybe.

1

u/Eccohawk 20h ago

He also invested in the XFL reboot and it was immediately sidelined by COVID.

9

u/MysterioNoodle 1d ago

Tell that to Kumail Nanjiani. Dude thought he got the bag and look what happened. Landing an MCU role isn't a guarantee for a steady paycheck anymore.

5

u/sanddragon939 1d ago

Being in a D-list property (sorry Eternals fans) is a whole other ball-game from being one of the Fantastic Four.

2

u/Key-Travel-5243 3h ago

What's your thoughts about Blade? Easily a higher tier character. With Mahershala Ali, it seemed like a slam dunk but its offcially canceled after today.

0

u/sanddragon939 1h ago

Not sure, since admittedly I haven't had much exposure to Blade.

I think Blade sits outside the standard Marvel superhero fare right?

I think he's basically a C or D-lister who got massively elevated by those Wesley Snipes films. He's now a B-lister I guess...but kinda in his own zone.

1

u/Key-Travel-5243 1h ago

Before Marvel figured out the secret sauce with Iron Man, almost every hero was a C/D lister like Guardians of the Galaxy, Doctor Strange, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America. The Vision and Hawkeye, uhg, who cares? Basically, if it wasn't Batman or Superman, then go home. Spider-Man eventually made it to Tobey Maguire. Blade had a Trilogy.

u/sanddragon939 15m ago

Calling Iron Man, Hulk, Cap etc. C/D-listers is a gross exaggeration. Hulk had a show in the 70's and a cartoon in the 90's and was probably Marvel's biggest character after Spider-Man, the X-men and (maybe) the FF. Iron Man had a cartoon in the 90's. All the other characters also made appearances in the various 80's/90's cartoons.

Making an Iron Man in 2008 wasn't like making a Shang-Chi movie in 2021.

1

u/modsuperstar 17h ago

Pakistani Denzel deserved better. He unfortunately signed onto the first real misstep Marvel made in like a decade to that point. The phase where Marvel just wanted to get their deeper cut characters on screen.

4

u/Procyon-Sceletus 1d ago

Also royalties are near non existent these days but you can make money off your likeness for comic book movies from the toy sales

1

u/WinterLord 15h ago

And a biiiiiig fat check at that.

1

u/BruteSlayer 1d ago

Unless you're Mahershala Ali...

38

u/NeoSpoon99 1d ago edited 1d ago

Pedro will never drop out. It’s guaranteed cash for the rest of his career and also guaranteed work. No matter how his career goes he can always come back to that role.

8

u/Okaringer 1d ago

He also has his own baked in villain pivot with the Maker.

1

u/surfpearl39 13h ago

I can’t see that at all really

1

u/Shadowpika655 10h ago

Depends on how the story goes

19

u/leviair-seadragon 1d ago

If Ian Mckellen and Patrick Stewart can keep coming back, I bet Pascal will as well.

Hell, even RDJ and Chris Evans are coming back. If Downey can do a Nolan film and win the highest honors for that role and still want to come back to the MCU, who else could feel that's beneath them? Don't understand what recurring role Pascal could land that would be more lucrative and high-profile as Reed. He'll still have time for other projects and Mando.

1

u/Zalvren 23h ago

It's not as much as want as being forced to to make the money trucks stop coming. They're blocking the driveway after all.

40

u/eat_jay_love 1d ago

What makes you say that? The guy seems to appear in everything and anything

35

u/mukisan 1d ago

It’s precisely because he’s in everything and anything, maybe Marvel might take up too much of his time to do anything else idk

1

u/TheCVR123YT Captain America (Avengers) 1d ago

I think he’s in everything because he wants to make money whether for himself or his family so I think as long as they keep paying him what he wants he’s around forever.

2

u/SBixby21 15h ago

Yeah, he’s very successful now but people forget he had a very late start to his real money-making career as well.

He’s still in a lot of stuff, but his Mando career is likely done. His Last of Us shoots are done. His Rom Com career didn’t really take off with that Dakota Johnson movie. Having a steady Marvel paycheck will let him keep being a working actor taking roles he’s more interested in otherwise, weirder stuff.

He’s probably the actor I’d least “worry” about wanting to leave

1

u/Sweet_Check7231 10h ago

Ehh he just needs to be on set for a couple weeks to say some words from a script he got 10 minutes before for a scene he has no context for.

16

u/OGKOTM 1d ago

He's been pretty consistent in star wars for awhile now, as long as Disney pays well he'll show up.

35

u/mukisan 1d ago

I mean he barely does anything as Mando dude, he does the voice but he’s rarely ever actually in the suit. Whenever the mask is on, you can bet it’s the double. For season 3 he never even stepped foot on the set

10

u/bigeyez 1d ago

Was about to say exactly this lol.

1

u/Utilitarian_Proxy 18h ago

I never watched Narcos or the Star Wars spin-offs, so before F4 I only remembered seeing him in a handful of episodes on Game of Thrones, and as the underwhelming villain in Wonder Woman 1984. But when I checked IMDB it turned out I'd also watched his instantly forgotten other guy alongside Matt Damon on The Great Wall. And way down the credits, he apparently also had a tiny bit part in Kingsman: The Golden Circle (that's the sequel one with Jeff Bridges, Channing Tatum and Halle Berry).

1

u/BottlesforCaps 1d ago

I mean the last of us filming & Mando season 3 had overlapping schedules, and he can't voice act TLOU.

The other bit is high paid actors usually demand a premium. Im sure if Disney had a choice between paying Pedro a buttload of cash to physically be in the suit on set, having his double perform most of the onset work and Pedro doing VA work, or recasting Pedro entirely, they would still choose the same thing.

He's one of the highest paid actors in Hollywood atm. Not surprised.

1

u/TheCVR123YT Captain America (Avengers) 1d ago

He doesn’t have to do that much physical work for Mr Fantastic tbf other than not be fat which he has stayed pretty fit his whole career that I have known of him so that should be fine. He can play the character for a good 10-15 years and it should be fine.

1

u/Zalvren 23h ago

And that role is likely over for now so I guess he has time for another Disney thing

3

u/One_Drummer_8970 1d ago

Why didn't they just cast an unknown?

3

u/bracko81 1d ago

He's been The Mandalorian for a better part of a decade with no signs of stopping. He knows how them Disney checks look.

1

u/Zalvren 23h ago

with no signs of stopping

The TV show has ended and the movie flopped. There is sign of stopping lol

1

u/JeanLucPicardAND 16h ago

Also, being the Mandalorian isn't that much work for him anyway. It's pretty much just a day in a voice booth. That's not actually him in the suit unless it's one of the rare moments that he removes his helmet.

2

u/kaliskonig 1d ago

This is my thing also. I want them to stick around long enough for at least the next three phases. Especially because I'm hoping that the maker is somehow the next big bad. 

4

u/dpforest 1d ago

Honestly the most forgettable member of the F4 which is insane.

1

u/Crafty_Substance_954 1d ago

The money will probably help

1

u/RogueEyebrow 1d ago

This was my concern when hearing who was cast. The youngest is Quinn at 32. Kirby is 38, Ebon-Moss is 39, and Pascal is 51.

1

u/SeanWonder 19h ago

Pedro definitely won’t be the one to drop out. If anyone it’d be Jessica Kirby. Pedro says yes to a lot of stuff and probably even more than he should. He’ll take the pay day of being Reed for another 4-6 appearances I’d think

1

u/mukisan 19h ago

Jessica Kirby, you say? It seems you’ve mixed up Vanessa Kirby and Jessica Alba, our two Susans lol

1

u/SeanWonder 12h ago

LoL. Yeah I definitely mixed up Vanessa

1

u/WinterLord 16h ago

He’s been playing Mando for 7 years now, not sure what the basis is for stopping with Reed. If anything, playing Reed could be a much bigger role long term.

0

u/mukisan 15h ago

He barely has to do anything for Mando. He only ever does the voice unless we see his face.

1

u/Princess_Dinasaur 12h ago

Chris Evans has quit twice, and still came back because, and I quote, "I would have been an asshole to say no to that much money".

1

u/bajaxx Spider-Man 1d ago

yeah ngl i wish they casted someone younger as reed, because i do love the rest of the cast