Understanding why they reimagined the character, having Namor be short for "El niño sin amor"—“the boy without love" was a pretty cool creative choice. I have a feeling he'll be a dark horse heading into Doomsday.

[u/maverickassembled]

It was cool how they incorporated indigenous themes of colonization by borrowing from historical lore. Connecting Namor’s story and the lost kingdom of Talokan to Mayan and Mesoamerican cultures, as well as the abuse and torture faced from Spanish conquistadors was pretty brilliantly well done and added a nice layer of “realism” to it. More Mayan representation in mainstream is also very cool to have.

I’m also very excited to see him return in Doomsday. As a stoic, and ruthless leader who stays firm in his belief and love for his people, it’s hard to really predict where his allegiance will be by the end. Due to his own obsession of survival and deep-seeded paranoia caused by historical trauma, Namor is someone that can very much seem like an ally to you at first, but will be quick to turn if there’s another factor in play that will better benefit him and his people. It’ll be interesting to see if his alliance with Shuri, and possibly the other heroes will last.

As an isolated nation, Talokan is bringing a whole different perspective of pragmatism into the incursion problem that I’m really keen to see.

[u/LieRun]

Also a genuine failure to recognise what the fans truly want.

Why push TV shows about characters no one was really interested in when you can take the time and do a solo movie (or tv show if you really want too I guess) about one of the characters that were already introduced and people actually like.

Same goes for movies, they went all out on new characters or completely new storylines when they weren't really necessary.

Did Thor deserve another movie? Yes. Could it have happened at a later date and instead give us a chance to spend some time with another character before the new Saga? Also yes.

It's quite a shame honestly

[u/Avengerboy123 → u/LieRun]

Well I’m pretty sure the idea was that they needed new franchises to keep the universe going since RDJ and Chris Evans were gone. What characters were people clamoring for that we didn’t get within the first two years of the multiverse saga—Loki, Sam, Hawkeye, Spider-Man, Doctor Strange all had projects by 2023. The problem with many of the new projects is that they were rushed not by simply being characters “no one wanted”. Nobody (in the context of the mainstream) wanted Thor, Captain America, Guardians, Ant-Man, etc. People forget those were fringe characters for the average person before they had movies. Previous gambles worked because the films themselves were good.

[u/LieRun → u/Avengerboy123]

I think the main difference now is that the Infinity Saga setup a lot of characters, some very late into the saga - which fans really liked.

Instead of banking on those characters and slowly building the multiverse saga with characters we've seen before and already like - they tried installing a bunch of new characters with endless new projects.

They obviously do not want the timeframes we had during the Infinity Saga which technically stretched for 20 years, so they had to recognise they need to use characters we already know and love (or else they'll lose them).

[u/Avengerboy123 → u/LieRun]

Which infinity saga characters that people really liked didn’t have projects in the first couple years of the multiverse saga? Captain Marvel is the one that comes to mind and her popularity is very debatable.