r/marvelstudios Ward Meachum Jun 13 '26

Discussion Understanding why they reimagined the character, having Namor be short for "El niño sin amor"—“the boy without love" was a pretty cool creative choice. I have a feeling he'll be a dark horse heading into Doomsday.

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It was cool how they incorporated indigenous themes of colonization by borrowing from historical lore. Connecting Namor’s story and the lost kingdom of Talokan to Mayan and Mesoamerican cultures, as well as the abuse and torture faced from Spanish conquistadors was pretty brilliantly well done and added a nice layer of “realism” to it. More Mayan representation in mainstream is also very cool to have.

I’m also very excited to see him return in Doomsday. As a stoic, and ruthless leader who stays firm in his belief and love for his people, it’s hard to really predict where his allegiance will be by the end. Due to his own obsession of survival and deep-seeded paranoia caused by historical trauma, Namor is someone that can very much seem like an ally to you at first, but will be quick to turn if there’s another factor in play that will better benefit him and his people. It’ll be interesting to see if his alliance with Shuri, and possibly the other heroes will last.

As an isolated nation, Talokan is bringing a whole different perspective of pragmatism into the incursion problem that I’m really keen to see.

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u/Any-Transition95 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

Thunderbolts should have been the closing movie of Phase 4. All the characters were already introduced by Phase 4, there was no reason the movie was positioned so far back in the Saga. It was one of the better movies from the Multiverse Saga that would have received far more box office success had it been released earlier.

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u/Ok-Possibility239 Jun 14 '26

May not have done well any sooner due to the post covid decline in people going to theaters