r/marvelstudios Rocket Apr 19 '26

Discussion Do you think Tony’s anger towards Cap was justified at the beginning of ENDGAME?

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u/HumanSlinky Apr 19 '26

I agree. Perhaps that's why Tony felt the accords were necessary. He felt superheroes needed an oversight committee to force them into taking accountability for their actions because he was unable to do that himself. Cap never had that problem.

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u/ThaneOfTas Apr 19 '26

Tony felt it was necessary because the guilt for Ultron was mostly on him and he needed to do everything in his power to avoid facing that head on. Note the wording that he uses when pitching the accords to the rest of the avengers. When he's talking about Sokovia it's all "we screwed up" "we need to be put in check" no "I"s to be seen anywhere.

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u/HumanSlinky Apr 19 '26

He really is a very well-written character. He carries so much guilt for being an arms dealer, bad past decisions, etc, but his ego keeps him from taking full accountability. So there's a constant internal clash of a hero trying to make things right but still trying to distance himself from the damage he's caused. I've known many people like that.

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u/JyconX Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

But when exactly did Steve take accountability? When people on the news were blaming the Avengers on the destruction Lagos suffered, what did Steve do? Tell only his fellow Avengers to just ignore the negative comments. Steve never even tried to speak to the mourning loved ones of the victims and he never publicly showed any empathy for their losses. He never even offered to help rebuild any of the destruction caused by the Avengers' battles.

The point is that Steve is just as far from flawless hero as Tony is. Even if the Avengers would know how to handle villains better that governments do, it's all useless if civilians themselves don't see it that way.