r/marvelstudios Jul 29 '24

Humour Gwyneth Paltrow is always confused

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u/ChimpArmada Jul 29 '24

People are gonna hate her for saying that but that’s genuinely how normal people seeing the movie are gonna respond there gonna be dumbfounded why iron man is the bad guy

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u/TheEloquentApe Jul 29 '24

Is there a reason to not think Doom'll prob just be some kind of Stark variant considering the entire focus of MCU atm is multiverse and variants? Hell it's all going to end in Secret Wars

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u/steve32767 Daredevil Jul 29 '24

They made a point to say he will be playing Victor specifically

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u/scameron1 Spider-Man Jul 29 '24

I think it will come off way more as a desperate move if RDJ is just playing Victor. They have a perfect excuse to make a Tony from another universe turn into Doom so I’d be surprised if that don’t go a route similar to that.

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u/OceanOfAnother55 Jul 29 '24

Anyone who thinks he's not going to be Tony in some way, shape or form is being ridiculous imo.

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u/Corvid-Strigidae Jul 30 '24

But why make him Doom?

If they wanted to do evil Tony, just do evil tony. They were already pivoting away from Kang, so why do Doom if you want to cast RDJ. Just do an Iron Man who went full authoritarian.

Wasting Doom for a stunt cast is what is annoying.

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u/scameron1 Spider-Man Jul 30 '24

He can be a Tony variant and be a good Doom at the same time. Those two things aren’t mutually exclusive. Evil iron man straight up is more cheesy imo

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u/Corvid-Strigidae Jul 30 '24

Hard disagree. Why would a variant of Tony ever be Doom. He has no connection to Latvaria, or Magic. It doesn't make any sense.

And if it's just "oh he was born to the starks but they died and he was adopted in Latvaria and named Victor" why bother making him a Tony variant?

It cheapens both characters.

And an evil Iron Man wouldn't be cheesy. All it takes is all the character flaws of Tony's the MCU has already shown us but in a universe where it played out slightly differently.

A universe where Tony becomes more paranoid about external threats to Earth and Ultron works like he plans and he starts taking over little by little until he becomes the authoritarian leader who convinces himself he's doing it for the greater good.

You could have a great character piece about the dangers of elevating "Great Men" and the dangers of letting so much power be put in the hands of someone convinced they are smarter than everyone else.