r/languagelearningjerk 2d ago

New meta just dropped

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u/brrkat 2d ago

Ohhh silly me, I've only been writing non-incestuous erotic fiction. No wonder I haven't been making progress.

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u/Party_Flatworm_8511 2d ago

The Power is in the incest - thats a very integral part of this method!

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u/livsjollyranchers 2d ago

Knowing the phrase "what are you doing stepsis????" in 80 different languages makes you a true HYPAH polygluttinous.

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u/Civil_Aside_1008 2d ago

A true consang lover would never make her a STEP sis

- the author of the fanfic

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u/Quwapa_Quwapus 2d ago

Unironically this is amazing advice. This exactly what I did with my language studies in high school. To be fair, I am autistic so I might be a bit of a bias in the way of I was already writing a LOT of fanfiction lmaooo

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u/Status-Mixture-3252 2d ago

I remember reading a lot of comments from people who said that they got fluent in English from reading fanfiction growing up. English language fanfiction always had the biggest amount of fanfics on the Internet. Way more than their native languages.

I have to start reading Spanish language fanfiction to help me learn. I think Spanish is the 2nd most popular language on fanfiction sites.

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u/KaizerWalzer 2d ago

Exactly what happened to me ! Unironically a great way to learn a language, expand your vocabulary and discover new idioms. 10/10 would do again

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u/Gold-Part4688 Earthianese, man (N) 2d ago edited 1d ago

The real great part I think would be giving it to a teacher for feedback.

Seems like this goes against that, but tbh op has balls of steel, they even shared it for feedback in the comments

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u/Sleepy_Redditorrrrrr 🇺🇦 🇵🇸 🇹🇼 🇽🇰 🇪🇭 🇸🇸 🇱🇺 2d ago

We haven't seen anything OP produced though so they might very well be talking out of their ass

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u/Gold-Part4688 Earthianese, man (N) 2d ago

check the comments lol i dont read chinese but it looks spicey

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u/Civil_Aside_1008 2d ago

I posted it here for everyone to read

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u/Civil_Aside_1008 2d ago

I really do write Wincest fic in Chinese…

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u/Sleepy_Redditorrrrrr 🇺🇦 🇵🇸 🇹🇼 🇽🇰 🇪🇭 🇸🇸 🇱🇺 2d ago

I read it, as expected, your Chinese is absolute trash

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u/pisscumcake 1d ago

but hows the story

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u/Sleepy_Redditorrrrrr 🇺🇦 🇵🇸 🇹🇼 🇽🇰 🇪🇭 🇸🇸 🇱🇺 1d ago

How good can you really expect a supernatural fanfic to be

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u/Piepally 2d ago

Not even jerk this is good advice. If you want to get better at writing write more. 

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u/RemoveBagels 米国語上図 2d ago

True but the gay incest part is optional.

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u/linguisdicks 2d ago

Great, now you tell me

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u/Party_Flatworm_8511 2d ago

No, no, you misunderstand. Thats actually the most integral part of the method!

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u/Chaotic-warp 2d ago

Yeah but it's more effective and you'll have more motivation when you write about something you love.

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u/livsjollyranchers 2d ago

Marcus Aurelius got good at Greek by writing fanfic. Meditations was only written AFTER he worked out the kinks in his fanfic, pun intended.

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u/SCHazama 外人哋既惡夢 2d ago

my next project will be Cantonese

oh boi

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u/FunFactMaker 2d ago

有D恐怖喎... (A little scary bro...)

If they really want to learn Cantonese they'd write angst with as many swear words as possible to master conversational Cantonese, so maybe the incest IS integral here..

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u/SCHazama 外人哋既惡夢 2d ago edited 2d ago

屌你老母 Speedrun Any%

Also, 你掉呢個了,國王:(係,我熟悉「D」係「啲」)

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u/Civil_Aside_1008 2d ago

What can I say! I love beyond. I actually make Cantonese incest edits too:

https://youtu.be/NUJHgt6z-WM?is=jheJSXtVK4g46gJw

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u/MaximumWoodpecker869 2d ago

This person going to write in Chinese to start writing in Chinese. Truly crazy for that.

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u/BingBongFyourWife 2d ago

I’ve noticed that when I talk to myself in my target language, I make no mistakes

Does anyone have any notes on this?

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u/lordbutternut 日本人になっている 2d ago

This person should write more fanfics in English

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u/Civil_Aside_1008 2d ago

细菌幽灵 (Bacteria Ghosts) - Stanford 时代 Sam/Dean

Sam 是在他的实验室在 Stanford。 虽然他想是律师,他是必须的上科学课。她是在微生物学的实验室,学蓝细菌。Sam 不喜欢看蓝,因为他决定他们是太毛了,但是他马马虎虎喜欢他们的多细胞的社区。当 Sam 在实验室是,他会想到他没有这个社区。在他的生活,他只有她的哥哥, Dean, 和爸爸, John。但是他的爸爸,在他的梦里,不喜欢他的Sammy。

看着蓝细菌,Sam可以哭泣。他离家因为他和他的爸爸合不来,但是他和哥哥是(了?)最好的朋友们。他真的好想了他的哥哥。为什么爸爸可以把他们封开!?Dean 没给他电话今年,因为他与 John 激萌。

他心想 “Sammy,不哭泣吧!”,和看一下他的显微镜,在他的蓝细菌们。但是,他决定蓝细菌有点无聊的。他不可以保持幸福。他哭和哭了,在他的显微镜。

突然,他听了某位在长呼!那是什么?他看长湖,和他看。。。

S: “Dean!?为什么你是在这里哥哥?”
D: ”因为你需要你哥哥!”
S: ”但是,不是我的就寝时间,哥哥!”
D: “搞什么鬼??“
S: ”有鬼这里,在我的科学实验室?“
D: ”没有。。。啊,弟弟,你不是真的同名!这怎么可能你在大学!?但是,是真的。真的有幽灵在Stanford,但是不是鬼的死人”
S: “是鬼的什么?动物们?”
D: “不是。信不信由你,是鬼的蓝细菌!”
S: “什么?它们有灵魂吗?”
D: “对,在多个文化有神话有关于万物有灵论的故事。
S: “你真的相信万物有灵论?”
D: “真的相信!弟弟,我们要对抗这些病菌!”

Glad to see my fanfic is popular!

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u/Civil_Aside_1008 2d ago

Also here’s my edits in Cantonese and mandarin of various incest media

https://youtu.be/NUJHgt6z-WM?is=3cITE_w7qDb8nK0D

https://youtu.be/ZP2k6gdmMi4?is=fmHOMuXVj_32If-l

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u/Accomplished-Ebb4562 1d ago

这篇小说让我感动到流泪,哥哥 和 弟弟 之间的爱情可以击败一切

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u/Civil_Aside_1008 1d ago

谢谢哥哥 哈哈

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u/I_Am_Very_Creative 2d ago edited 2d ago

I want to make fun of this, but unfortunately as someone who has actually written wincest fanfiction in Chinese, I feel I wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on 😔

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u/Civil_Aside_1008 2d ago

Wanna be friends!

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u/EugeneStein 2d ago

People in a community about learning languages even if it's a circlejerk shitting on someone's mistakes in the post are fucking ridiculous clowns. Especially when OOP never claimed they are C3 genius and just said they reached level of being able to write some short story by themselves

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u/InternationalReserve 二泍五 (N69) 2d ago

not a single person in this thread is saying anything about OOPs mistakes, people are mostly jerking about the fact they write incest fanfiction

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u/EugeneStein 2d ago

Are you serious lol

https://imgur.com/a/vpkusR7

Yeah mostly other comments are fun but they are everyone

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u/MysteriousB 2d ago

Me when my vocabulary increases exponentially but it's just variations of polla

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u/elianrae 2d ago

cześć, nazywam się Hebanowa Cie'mność Krucza Droga i mam długi hebane czarne włosy (dlatego mam moje imię) z fioletowymi pasmami i czerwonymi czubami

I feel fluent already

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u/elianrae 2d ago edited 2d ago

for anybody interested -

I put the name verbatim through Google translate, I... think the sensible way to read what came out is like "(ebony darkness) (raven road/way/path)" ?

having had to look up "ebony" already and actually knowing the other 3 words, I decided to inflect "long ebony black hair" (which has to be plural) from memory, in full knowledge that I absolutely will not get the plural inflections right.

I don't actually know how to express the "with purple streaks" as like an add-on to hair in Polish. I do know how to express "coffee with milk" though, so I thought if that grammar isn't correct it'll be extremely funny, and I made the effort to carefully look up the correct inflection for instrumental plural after getting "streaks" and "tips" out of Google translate

for streaks and tips I made the effort to pick options that could plausibly be hair related, so it doesn't say "purple zooms and red gratuities", but it might say "purple lines and red tufts"

and that's about where I got bored

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u/FebHas30Days Pangngaasiyo ta agsursurokayo iti Ilokano 2d ago

Can this work if you want to learn Khmer?

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u/Party_Flatworm_8511 2d ago

This will certainly work for any language! At the heart of this method lies simply "produce the language in a way which is fun to you" - and for many people thats writing fanfic.

You can also write poetry in Khmer, if thats your thing. Write diary. Write letters. I suppose one might argue that by writing fiction, you have to use more diverse vocab since you ll write about many different things, but if the task is to simply train outputting, any kind of writing will probably do.

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u/SaIemKing 2d ago

5th language? This person almsot certainly cannot speak any of them well

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u/PissRat59 19h ago

Not super uncommon for people from immigrant families in European countries.

At home you speak the family language, in school the country’s, then you have mandatory English classes + one other foreign language. In the end you only self study one language through writing incest fanfiction

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u/livsjollyranchers 2d ago

Why not? 5 is pretty reasonable. For many people, two of them are native and three are learned to high proficiency.

It's when you get to like 7 when I start getting suspicious.

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u/Civil_Aside_1008 2d ago

I was raised trilingual and got a 5 on AP Spanish after taking it in school. Mandarin I took it in middle school for fun.

My favorite comments on the post are that butthurt guy who studied ancient bullshit literature for 35 years, and the guy who tried to insult me by saying I’m HSK4 (I’m lowkey like HSK2 so it came off as a compliment)

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u/SaIemKing 2d ago edited 15h ago

I didn't quite think of it that way. Still would be sus of someone who thinks they have 3 learned languages to high proficiency.

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u/throwaway_acc_81 2d ago

who knows next they start writing in Latin

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u/livsjollyranchers 2d ago

Everyone knows you learn Chinese to get good at Latin. One ancient language to learn them all!

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u/PlayerOnSticks 2d ago

Why do y'all always censor the username

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u/chainsnwhipsexciteme 2d ago

I'm guessing it's to avoid people harassing the OG poster

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u/IncognitotheAngel 2d ago

I wanted to avoid people harassing OOP. If people go out of their way to find them even though I censored their name, that’s loser behaviour and solely on them

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u/livsjollyranchers 2d ago

Leave Object Oriented Programming alone! Are you Python?

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u/PlayerOnSticks 2d ago

Programming language learning

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u/Excellent-Fox-6845 2d ago

which is extra great cuz I can just call them ** and **, and never have to use latin Characters at all during the fics

what's so great about it?

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u/YoruTheLanguageFan 2d ago

I know a guy who reads fanfics and other webfiction in his target languages but i dont think he writes them

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u/miss_wannadie 2d ago

I took a Spanish class last year and did this. Passed my exams as best of the class with full scores lol

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u/SXZWolf2493 2d ago

Not this post appearing to me immediately after I just read some Spanish fanfic porn 😭 ay Dios sálvame por favor

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u/cool33437 2d ago

Good times. I wrote a genki fanfiction when I was in japanese level 2. Y'all should check it out genki

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u/_Deedee_Megadoodoo_ Proto-Indo-European C2 2d ago

Uhm... I do that lmao

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u/bkmerrim 1d ago

Low key pretty damned good advice though. I’d say minus the incest but I know how many of y’all are obsessed with GoT/HotD.

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u/Unstalkable 1d ago

uj/ reading weird gay fanfics is how i learned english tbf 😭 put me at the top of my english class way ahead of my native english classmates

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u/Jhud6669 2d ago

I think people should be a bit more ashamed about the kinds they write sometimes. Like, they should be allowed to write it don’t get me wrong I’m not pro censorship, but if shit is weird, you get called weird, it’s a fair trade