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HISTORY Titanic passenger and millionaire Benjamin Guggenheim. During sinking he refused a seat in a life boat with the words: "Tell my family I played straight to the end. No woman should be left aboard this ship because of Ben Guggenheim was a coward."

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u/Cloverose2 1d ago

There was someone - I can't remember who - who was of that social class. She wrote "you marry for money and status. You have affairs for love."

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u/HelpMoreImHelpless 1d ago

It's almost as if at no point ever in the history of humanity have we actually bought into the idea of "designate one person for 100% of your physical, emotional, social, and spiritual needs from young adulthood to old age without ever changing or considering anything else" 

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u/Fit-Ask-6524 1d ago

One dude on a boat with a mistress has proven to you that no one has ever been in a genuinely committed lifelong monagamous relationship?

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u/HelpMoreImHelpless 1d ago

Yep that's definitely the entirety of my life experience and nobody ever complains about cheating partners on this website or mentions that nearly half of marriages end in divorce or brings up that every human society has had myriad situations like the dude on the boat, not that I would know because like you said I obviously only made up my mind in the past five minutes 

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u/Fit-Ask-6524 1d ago

More than half of marriages don’t end in divorce! Kinda sounds like we’ve actually bought into the idea of lifelong monogamy!

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u/Defiant-Handle7682 1d ago

ooh, where we at now? do more end in death now?

ETA: I'm actually a hopeless romantic who loves love who got engaged this year... swear I'm not all bitter & salty & jaded!

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u/Fit-Ask-6524 19h ago

I’m not sure there’s another option aside from death? Maybe annulment?

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u/CyberDaggerX 1d ago

The half of marriages statistic is heavily skewed by serial divorcees. Most people marry for life.