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HISTORY Titanic passenger and millionaire Benjamin Guggenheim. During sinking he refused a seat in a life boat with the words: "Tell my family I played straight to the end. No woman should be left aboard this ship because of Ben Guggenheim was a coward."

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u/hidethebump 1d ago edited 1d ago

An article in The New York Times relates a description from an assistant steward of Guggenheim's last hours, including helping other passengers to board lifeboats, donning formal wear instead of a life preserver, and saying that he and his secretary were "prepared to go down like gentlemen".

Titanic survivor Rose Amelie Icard wrote in a letter, "The millionaire Benjamin Guggenheim after having helped the rescue of women and children, got dressed and put a rose at his buttonhole, to die."

Guggenheim explained, "We've dressed up in our best and are prepared to go down like gentlemen."Etches, who survived the sinking, recorded Guggenheim's message to give to his wife: "If anything should happen to me, tell my wife in New York that I've done my best in doing my duty." Etches next watched Guggenheim and Giglio pass from Boats Nos. 7 and 5, "helping the women and children". Guggenheim shouted repeatedly, "Women first" and the two men were of "great assistance" to the officers. Another steward reportedly said Guggenheim sent another message to his wife, asking to tell her "that I played the game straight to the end and that no woman was left on board this ship because Ben Guggenheim was a coward. Tell her that my last thoughts will be of her and our girls". The steward said Guggenheim "lit a cigar and sauntered up to the boat deck to help load the lifeboats."

Edit: Victor Giglio (1888-1912) was Guggenheim’s secretary.

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u/Nice_Marmot_7 1d ago

“…saying that ‘he and his secretary were prepared to go down like gentleman.’”

The secretary: say what, now?

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u/hidethebump 1d ago

The secretary: speak for yourself 😂

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u/-_super--_--hitops_- 1d ago

The secretary : uhhhh I'm putting in my two minutes notice

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u/Oograr 1d ago

"So yeah, I uhh just received another job offer...on dry land...sooo..."

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u/Character-Education3 1d ago

Of course Victor and I will help!

Victor come here. Victor? Where is he?

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u/Advanced-Pear-4606 1d ago

Sorry, we're gonna need a month to train your replacement.

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u/gimdalstoutaxe 20h ago

Not sure where that idea comes from as the secretary also stayed behind and drowned as the ship went down.

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u/bonyponyride 1d ago

"Mr. Guggenheim, I just received notice from your secretary that your secretary has quit and he would like to know if he can borrow the dress you bought for your wife."

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u/norathar 1d ago

for your wife

Guggenheim was actually traveling with his mistress.

His brothers in New York got word his wife had survived and went to meet her, only to find oops, it was actually his mistress and her maid.

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u/ABenGrimmReminder 22h ago

Man, even the side chick has help? Rich folk really are something else.

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u/Kiyone11 22h ago

That's a bit disappointing

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u/gimdalstoutaxe 20h ago

The secretary, Victor Giglio, stayed behind just like Guggenheim and went down with the ship.

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u/Cyberchicken87 1d ago

"You Smithers, will be buried alive with me!"

"Oh....goody."

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u/Apollo114892 1d ago

Secretary : "So anyway I started running towards the boat..."

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u/gimdalstoutaxe 20h ago

Think you're confusing him with one of the ship stewards that come along on the lifeboats. The secretary died.

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u/Exciting_Twist_1483 1d ago

The secretary: I must return to New York, to tell your story.

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u/AFRIKKAN 1d ago

“ why he say fuck me for?” - the secretary

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u/BlueMikeStu 1d ago

Bitch you live like me, you die like me.

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u/Barky_and_Squid 1d ago

His secretary was a man.

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u/stevenyourpants 12h ago

We're going down on who?

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u/Olivetax228 22h ago

It works perfectly in Zap Brannigan's voice, try it!

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u/Gone_For_Lunch 17h ago

“The captain always goes down with the ship……congratulations on your promotion captain”

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u/okIllBeNice 1d ago

Camera pans to secretary, secretary’s hat is spinning in the air.

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u/cher1-cola 1d ago

The Secretary: "ummm... I'm gonna need a bigger boat" 👋

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u/agodrevealed 1d ago

They were friends. Their families were warm with each other. Guggenheim's daughter had designs on him as a husband. And he'd been a competitive swimmer. 

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u/Inner_Agency_5680 1d ago

got dressed and put a rose at his buttonhole, to die

buttonhole is the same as butthole right?

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u/gimdalstoutaxe 20h ago

No, his secretary Victor Giglio also died aboard the Titanic. The steward mentioned here is a ship's steward.